Murton/Bynum platoon implied by Dusty

[dalgreen]

Basically, to me, we're getting upset over a D- player playing games over a D+ player.

 

i'm not big on murton, and i didn't expect much from him this year, but to call him a D+ player is pretty ridiculous. every gm in the majors would take murton over bynum, without a doubt.

 

I'd take Murton over Bynum, too, but I still think Murton has been overall below avg. this year. And, again, that could be because I did expect more out of him. My question is if we never dealt for Murton would he be playing in Fenway Park by now? That goes to my point about our GM setting him up for failure.

[DiamondMind]

When Lee returns I suppose you could stick Nevin in LF and platoon Jones/Murton in RF. That's some shoddy defense, however.

[abuck1220]

Basically, to me, we're getting upset over a D- player playing games over a D+ player.

 

i'm not big on murton, and i didn't expect much from him this year, but to call him a D+ player is pretty ridiculous. every gm in the majors would take murton over bynum, without a doubt.

 

I'd take Murton over Bynum, too, but I still think Murton has been overall below avg. this year. And, again, that could be because I did expect more out of him. My question is if we never dealt for Murton would he be playing in Fenway Park by now? That goes to my point about our GM setting him up for failure.

 

i didn't expect much from murton, but you might as well see what he's got by letting him play it out. if you don't let him play, then you go into '07 w/ him still being a question mark.

[Outshined_One]

Murton gets a free pass (I don't know why) from some because he's under 28 years old.

 

So is Bynum.

[FloridaCubbie]

Murton needs to start everyday, if not in the majors then at AAA. He NEEDS to develop more power to be a regular in the future, and he's not gonna do it by riding pine.

[BigbadB]

Seems to me Murton's deflated numbers coincide with the time Baker told Murton he was too patient and needed to be more aggressive. He definitely isn't the same guy I remember at the plate prior to that conversation.

 

Would Murton be struggling against RHP if Cubs management wasn't constantly sitting him against RHP for a much less desirable replacement? Would he be struggling this badly if he was just left alone to do what got him here in the first place?

 

Luckily, there are a lot of lefties in the NL Central, otherwise Bynum would be the guy getting 3/4 of the starts in LF with this platoon.

 

Ah, what do I care. I want them to fail now. It's the only thing that will potentially put a stop to this madness.

[USSoccer]

The fact that this is even being debated seriously is proof enough that there's nary a sane mind in a management position for the Chicago Cubs. In no universe is platooning Murton with a player like Freddie Bynum acceptable, except for apparently here at Wrigley.

 

I'm becoming less and less emotionally attached to this team

[Laura]

Platooning w/ Bynum is a terrible idea. His numbers for the year:

 

AVG .233 OBP. .270.

 

Vs Righties:

 

AVG .235 OBP. .264

 

Yeah, big improvement there Baker, you idiot.

 

Hilarious! In a very sad way.

 

Bynum gets the nod because he's hitting righties .007 better than Murton. Heh.

 

I had qualms about how Murton would be power-wise before the season -- I had hoped his average and OBP would remain respectable if not as stellar as last season. But the issue is not so much that Murton would be platooned but that his at-bats will be taken by yet another light-hitting speedy guy, the type that Hendry and Dusty just can't help but collect and play way too much.

[CuseCubFan69]

Dusty is the man. It's about time somebody recoginized how good Bynum is. Now once the two headed moster of Neifi Womach get all the playing time at second the plan will be complete. What a great team to root for.....thanks Jim Hendry!

[Careless]

so

pierre

womack

nevin

jaque

neifi (because aramis just has to get injured)

Bynum

Cedeno

Blanco (when barrett is suspended)

 

On the list of "worst lineups ever" where would this rank?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

so

pierre

womack

nevin

jaque

neifi (because aramis just has to get injured)

Bynum

Cedeno

Blanco (when barrett is suspended)

 

On the list of "worst lineups ever" where would this rank?

 

I'm not sure the Royals could top that.

[Wes Mantooth]

Hate to show my age, but this reminds me of Sandberg's first season with the Cubs. Seems like he would have a series that was a view of how good would be in the future, then he would just as easily look human.

That is how I see Murton. I'm very happy Dusty didn't manage then.

[Mark Priors Calves]

If the Cubs are remotely serious are having Murton as an everyday LF in the future, this is inexcusable.

[Backtobanks]

If the Cubs are remotely serious are having Murton as an everyday LF in the future, this is inexcusable.

 

Not only does it ruin his confidence, but it ruins his trade value in case the Cubs have to include him in a package for someone like Cabrera.

[sweetpeteman]

so

pierre

womack

nevin

jaque

neifi (because aramis just has to get injured)

Bynum

Cedeno

Blanco (when barrett is suspended)

 

On the list of "worst lineups ever" where would this rank?

 

I'm not sure the Royals could top that.

 

 

The Royals would look at that lineup and go, "WWWWhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaatttt? Man, even we ain't that bad."

[Chocolate Milk]

Our journey to 100 losses just got a little easier.

[Balsa]

The ghost of DuBois....

[muntjack]

Matt Murton is 24 with a career OPS of .793.

 

Freddie Bynum is 26 with a career OPS of .674.

 

Matt Murton has walked 36 times and struck out 53.

 

Freddie Bynum has walked 2 times and struck out 25.

 

I'm not sure who deserves the shot at becoming a complete player here, but I have an idea.

 

 

Perhaps Bynum turns out to be Sammy Sosa.

 

Perhaps Murton turns out to be Kevin Orie.

 

I have a feeling that we're going to end up trading away a future all-star so Freddie Bynum can attempt to save this team.

[SoonerCubFan]

Let me restate my point, platooning Bynum and Murton is lower on my list of concerns right now. We need new and better personnel on this team. Bynum sucks but so does Murton, right now. ... Bynum sucks, but Murton has been horrible against righties and his OBP is steadily dropping. I would love to see a Murton/Jones platoon, but our genius of a GM and our genius manager can't put together a good ballclub to do that.

 

I'm with you all the way on these points, with the key being that bolded without which nothing else really matters. Yes, at this point we might as well just let Murton get all the PT, and to platoon w/Bynum is ludicrous as they BOTH suck against RHPs, but I still think a general platoon w/Jones and occasional starts against RHPs w/control problems would be a better developmental ploy for a year or two. As stated, it all hinges(d) on having a real high-OPS LF - a point that is moot now and/or would never get done to our long term benefit.

[YearofDaCubs]

This organization is despicable. Words cannot describe how bad thing have gotten.

[Andy]

so

pierre

womack

nevin

jaque

neifi (because aramis just has to get injured)

Bynum

Cedeno

Blanco (when barrett is suspended)

 

On the list of "worst lineups ever" where would this rank?

 

I'm not sure the Royals could top that.

 

 

The Royals would look at that lineup and go, "WWWWhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaatttt? Man, even we ain't that bad."

"and even if we are, at least we're spending an eighth as much to be this bad."

[RegulusBlue]

I am foaming at the mouth right now. They are taking the only reason I watch the Cubs away from me half of the time. I think Dusty is trying to ruin the fan support. Words aren't strong enough for the anger and despair I feel right now. I don't even care when they lose anymore. I don't even care when they win. I just want to see Cedeno and Murton develop, and eventually Pie.

 

I actually think Hendry should keep Pie in AAA so Dusty can't talk to him. Its clearly ruining Murton, which is despicable. My detachment from this team and the fall of Murton is making me think crazy things like "Why don't we trade Murton so he can actually have a career?" Its the humanitarian thing to do. He swings at the first pitch all the time now, and its killing him.

 

The only way he was getting around his problems driving the ball was by working the count enough to get something he could dink into the OF or drive on the ground somewhere.

 

At this point, I would sell off every player but Z, Prior, and Lee and bring the AAA team to the majors. We might find a few more surprises before we own the FA market in the offseason with all the money we get.

[Andy]

Me to my Sox fan friend who can't understand why I like Murton so much:

 

"When Murton goes to Detroit or Oakland in a couple of years under a competent coaching staff, he will become a star. I guarantee it."

[SoonerCubFan]

I am foaming at the mouth right now. They are taking the only reason I watch the Cubs away from me half of the time.

 

No more telling statement about the state of the 2006 Cubs, and the watchability thereof, has ever been written.

[RynoRules]

Our journey to 100 losses just got a little easier.

 

Can someone photoshop a pic of Dusty as the Pied Piper to Infamy? Or a Tour Guide to Franchise's Worst Year Ever?