Prior delayed again

[Jon]

Didn't Bruce Miles assure us that there's nothing wrong with Prior? I believe him over Sullivan.

Well, it's all how it's framed. Yes Prior has been "delayed," but only in terms of when they thought he was going to be ready to throw to hitters. Nobody can be expected to keep to a schedule exactly. The bottom line is that not only is Prior not being shut down, his actual progress isn't being delayed. He's still going forward, building up arm strength, and isn't experiencing pain. There's really nothing at all to worry about in terms of what Rothschild said today.

 

What?

They pushed back his first session against live hitters a couple of days, but he's still throwing and building up arm strength. Sullivan can call it a "delay," but his actual throwing isn't being pushed back at all. It's not like they've shut him down for a few days.

[Houston_Cub_Fan]

I agree that the paranoia on this board is at an all time high. Sit back and relax. Prior is scheduled to pitch the second game of the season. They have a timetable for him based on arm strength issues, not health issues. Wood wasn't going to be ready until May at the earliest anyway. If you were going into the season thinking that Kerry's health will make or break us, you were setting yourself up for dissapointment. Anything we get from Kerry should be seen as a bonus.

[FergieJ31]

The only thing I find disturbing is this quote by LR:

 

"Maybe he's not a spring-training guy. You hate to think about it that way, but ... I can understand [the skepticism].

 

"Maybe he's not a spring-training guy" - huh?

[soccer10k]

I still don't see the big deal about this. It's not like the Cubs have said that Prior isn't going to throw for a few days. He is still throwing so until they shut him down and don't let him throw, I wouldn't worry about anything.

[YearofDaCubs]

So did the heavy workload to Wood and Prior in 2003 have something to do with their injuries every year? I think it's very possible.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

So did the heavy workload to Wood and Prior in 2003 have something to do with their injuries every year? I think it's very possible.

 

Maybe with Wood and maybe Prior's 2004 injury. I don't think Prior's current condition or his being hit by a line-drive had anything to do with the 2003 work load.

[bc2k]

Didn't Bruce Miles assure us that there's nothing wrong with Prior? I believe him over Sullivan.

Well, it's all how it's framed. Yes Prior has been "delayed," but only in terms of when they thought he was going to be ready to throw to hitters. Nobody can be expected to keep to a schedule exactly. The bottom line is that not only is Prior not being shut down, his actual progress isn't being delayed. He's still going forward, building up arm strength, and isn't experiencing pain. There's really nothing at all to worry about in terms of what Rothschild said today.

 

What?

They pushed back his first session against live hitters a couple of days, but he's still throwing and building up arm strength. Sullivan can call it a "delay," but his actual throwing isn't being pushed back at all. It's not like they've shut him down for a few days.

 

That's my point too. I'm trusting Bruce Miles's word over Paul Sullivan's. Can anyone help me find that recent thread where Miles talked about Prior's health?

[Jon]

Not sure about that thread. It might have been from when the Carroll rumors started up.

 

According to Dusty on the WGN Radio pregame show, Prior had his best session of the spring earlier today and with "good pop."

[TB_11]

I agree that the paranoia on this board is at an all time high. Sit back and relax. Prior is scheduled to pitch the second game of the season. They have a timetable for him based on arm strength issues, not health issues. Wood wasn't going to be ready until May at the earliest anyway. If you were going into the season thinking that Kerry's health will make or break us, you were setting yourself up for dissapointment. Anything we get from Kerry should be seen as a bonus.

 

Based on the news released, I don't think we should be too concerned about this. The problem is that the Cubs recently have not been forthright with injury information, specifically to Prior and Wood (the arthroscopic knee surgery news seemed to come out of nowhere). So when we hear news like this, the paranoia is due the worry that this is a larger problem than the Cubs are letting on, and if it is we won't find out about it until Prior heads to the DL.

 

But I agree that the best thing to do is to hope for the best, and trust what Bruce says :D

[Andy]

So did the heavy workload to Wood and Prior in 2003 have something to do with their injuries every year? I think it's very possible.

 

Maybe with Wood and maybe Prior's 2004 injury. I don't think Prior's current condition or his being hit by a line-drive had anything to do with the 2003 work load.

The sad thing is, I'd be perfectly willing to accept the crap we go through with Wood and Prior every year - if they'd closed it out in 2003. :(

[Tim]

Oh no! Maddus hasn't pitched in a game yet! The Cubs must be hiding a serious injury!

 

I undertand the skepticism, but let's all take a deep breath and see what happens before believing the worst. Unless it floats your boat to expect the worst and then be pleasantly surprised when something better happens. In which case, knock yourself out but realize you're going to annoy people who don't have this habit.

 

[2242005CY]

Hey ndistops, Good luck fitting Schensers mug on your sig:)

 

As far as Prior goes, I feel more comftorable after hearing Larry and that this is really just "extra" precautionary measures with Prior. I still would like to see him pitch soon though to be honest.

 

And Tim, I know you were being facetious, but Maddux is atleast throwing to hitters (not to mention a HOF Veteran who's been in the rodeo for awhile). Again, Prior can put all this to rest by pitching in a game and soon. I'm sorry but I won't feel comftorable (and foolish) til I see him in a game. Just the longtime Cub fan in me.

[Laura]

Paul Sullivan in the Trib[/url]"]

Prior's Cactus League debut is on hold while he strengthens his arm in a gradual throwing program. He responded to Stone's comments after a bullpen session Sunday.

 

"I don't take it personally," Prior said. "I don't have a problem with Stone. I don't think he has a problem with me. I'm sure he's just doing his job." Prior was then asked if Stone, a former Cubs broadcaster who left amid controversy after the 2004 season, was respected in the Cubs' clubhouse.

 

"I'm not going to comment on that," Prior replied. "Obviously he's made some enemies in this clubhouse, for good or for bad. Whether it was his fault or it wasn't his fault, that's something we've tried to put to bed.

 

"That happened a couple of years ago. What I've learned in four years is I don't take anything personally anymore. I guess it's just part of the game. I respect the attention I get. I understand the scrutiny I'm under."

 

Prior said he is satisfied with his progress, despite not getting into a game or participating in most fielding drills.

 

"I like the way we're going about it, this new approach," he said. "It's been good. I like the way I'm throwing the ball right now."

 

Kerry Wood, one of Prior's best friends on the team, also was asked about Stone's comments regarding Prior's progress.

 

"Who's that?" Wood said. "Oh, is he still around?"

[Brian]

:lol: point for Woody on that diss.

[Tanner_20]

This is why they are always so hesitant to make public any type of a timetable for either Wood or Prior. If they miss one deadline, the media jumps all over because they love this storyline.

 

Theres 162 games a year, take a deep breath. Still some thirty days until opening days remaining. Behind schedule is just a term used by the media to bring to everyday sport's fans attention to the fact that these guys are human, and to allow jack@sses at ESPN and other outlets something to report so they can continue to ignore the NHL while giving the NFL guys time to spin more info about the labour agreement.

[Coach C]

Awesome remark by Wood.

[Bgbird68]

Awesome remark by Wood.

 

And Cub fans will be saying that about Wood after this year.

 

Hopefully.

[USSoccer]

It's nice to see a player put Stone in his proper perspective...

[goonys evil twin]

I'll never understand why people get mad at Stone for stating the obvious. It's as if you don't spout the company line about how everything is going to be great, you're an ignorant outsider with no basis for you opinion.

 

The fact that the Cubs are babying Prior right now is not a good sign. Healthy pitchers aren't treated this way in March.

[Mizzou]

I'll never understand why people get mad at Stone for stating the obvious. It's as if you don't spout the company line about how everything is going to be great, you're an ignorant outsider with no basis for you opinion.

 

I'm sure that Wood is still pissed about the used car salesman thing.

[Chocolate Milk]

I'm not too worried about this.

[jjgman21]

I'll never understand why people get mad at Stone for stating the obvious. It's as if you don't spout the company line about how everything is going to be great, you're an ignorant outsider with no basis for you opinion.

 

The fact that the Cubs are babying Prior right now is not a good sign. Healthy pitchers aren't treated this way in March.

 

nobody gets mad when Stone gives an opinion. it is the way he gives it that people get mad about.

[goonys evil twin]

I'll never understand why people get mad at Stone for stating the obvious. It's as if you don't spout the company line about how everything is going to be great, you're an ignorant outsider with no basis for you opinion.

 

The fact that the Cubs are babying Prior right now is not a good sign. Healthy pitchers aren't treated this way in March.

 

nobody gets mad when Stone gives an opinion. it is the way he gives it that people get mad about.

 

It just seems odd to me that people get so worked up about the tone of the message as opposed to the message itself. Kerry could be done as a pitcher sooner rather than later if he fails to change. Who cares if he says something about car salesman? The message still stands. There is something with Kerry's pitching that is causing him to get injured frequently, he and the Cubs need to find what it is and fix it. And when Prior is being babied this late into the spring, as he is, then everything is not hunky dory, no matter how much they pretend it is.

[jjgman21]

I'll never understand why people get mad at Stone for stating the obvious. It's as if you don't spout the company line about how everything is going to be great, you're an ignorant outsider with no basis for you opinion.

 

The fact that the Cubs are babying Prior right now is not a good sign. Healthy pitchers aren't treated this way in March.

 

nobody gets mad when Stone gives an opinion. it is the way he gives it that people get mad about.

 

It just seems odd to me that people get so worked up about the tone of the message as opposed to the message itself. Kerry could be done as a pitcher sooner rather than later if he fails to change. Who cares if he says something about car salesman? The message still stands. There is something with Kerry's pitching that is causing him to get injured frequently, he and the Cubs need to find what it is and fix it. And when Prior is being babied this late into the spring, as he is, then everything is not hunky dory, no matter how much they pretend it is.

 

just trying to help you understand why people get mad at him. surely you can understand this coming from me as I am the poster child around here for people getting mad at the tone of the message and forgetting the content.

[noisesquared]

The fact that the Cubs are babying Prior right now is not a good sign. Healthy pitchers aren't treated this way in March.

 

 

This is what I don't get - all winter the mantra around NSBB was that Prior is not injury prone, he's been the victim of some freak plays. Now that the Cubs are being ridiculously cautious with him, the conspiracy theories start to come out. It's a pretty safe bet Prior has not taken a batted ball off the elbow or collided with any second basemen yet this year, so if he's not injury prone, there should be nothing wrong with him. Considering he's thrown all of his scheduled sessions this spring training, I don't see any reason to worry. All I've heard this spring is that Rothschild wants to take a different approach with Prior, and if that means he's on a different timetable than everybody else, then so be it.