Miguel Cabrera not a Marlin in 2007?

[ZMovieman]

According to the article from the Newark Star-Ledger, seems Cabrera's contract will be too much for the Marlins after next year and that he'll become a nice trade bait.

 

I know the Cubs would probably not be the best match for a trade, but what would it take? Anyone care to take a guess?

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/scorecard/02/27/truth.rumors.mlb/index.html

[Rob]

There is absolutely zero chance they trade him.

 

They're looking to relocate, and if they don't have any talent at all, they'll have a hard time building up a fanbase in whatever city they head to.

 

Cabrera and Willis will stick around for the foreseeable future.

[Backtobanks]

According to the article from the Newark Star-Ledger, seems Cabrera's contract will be too much for the Marlins after next year and that he'll become a nice trade bait.

 

I know the Cubs would probably not be the best match for a trade, but what would it take? Anyone care to take a guess?

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/scorecard/02/27/truth.rumors.mlb/index.html

 

Who cares? Offer them a ton of young players (except Pie). Hill, Brownlie, Sing, and Dopriak for starters. Cabrera is the kind of player the Cubs need.

[davecubsfan]

If Miggy becomes available, there's no untouchable name IMO.

[CP_414]

I'd offer Pie or Murton + Hill + Guzman right now if Cabrera will play LF. I would try to keep Pie or Murton, so we could get rid of Jones after this season, but I would give them both up if necessary.

 

Imagine him in our lineup.

 

Pierre

Walker

Lee

Cabrera

Aramis

Jones/Murton/Pie

Barrett

Cedeno

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

If Cabrera is available. You give them the pick of the farm. If that means Pie and Paweleck (after June), then so be it.

[goonys evil twin]

There is absolutely zero chance they trade him.

 

I don't see how that is possible. Zero chance? It's going to take a while for them to move, if they even do. And his contract will be huge by then.

 

I'm sure they'd like to hold onto him as the most obviously marketable player. But there's a chance they'll have to trade him, let alone simply choose to because they want to avoid paying him big bucks.

 

I'd include any prospect Florida would want, and probably any cheap young big leaguer.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

If Cabrera comes available, he'll be traded for no less than the other team's top prospect and then some. Pie isn't even a top tier prospect, so I think we'd be out of any serious bidding. If Cabrera leaves the Marlins, he won't be coming to Chicago.

[goonys evil twin]

If Cabrera comes available, he'll be traded for no less than the other team's top prospect and then some. Pie isn't even a top tier prospect, so I think we'd be out of any serious bidding. If Cabrera leaves the Marlins, he won't be coming to Chicago.

 

I think the Cubs could put together a package that would satisfy Florida, but I'm not sure they'd even try.

 

 

A lot would depend on how guys play early this year. If Pie gets off to a rocking start his value will increase. If Guzman looks good, he would be of value as well.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

If Cabrera comes available, he'll be traded for no less than the other team's top prospect and then some. Pie isn't even a top tier prospect, so I think we'd be out of any serious bidding. If Cabrera leaves the Marlins, he won't be coming to Chicago.

 

I think the Cubs could put together a package that would satisfy Florida, but I'm not sure they'd even try.

 

 

A lot would depend on how guys play early this year. If Pie gets off to a rocking start his value will increase. If Guzman looks good, he would be of value as well.

 

Pie isn't even a top 25 prospect. If a club wanted to beat out a Cubs offer of Pie, Pawelek, and Hill, they could do it. I'm pretty sure the bidding on Cabrera would be insane in terms of prospects. Guzman is a health concern despite whatever numbers he puts up this year. That seriously hurts his trade value.

[rocket]

According to the article from the Newark Star-Ledger, seems Cabrera's contract will be too much for the Marlins after next year and that he'll become a nice trade bait.

 

I know the Cubs would probably not be the best match for a trade, but what would it take? Anyone care to take a guess?

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/scorecard/02/27/truth.rumors.mlb/index.html

 

Who cares? Offer them a ton of young players (except Pie). Hill, Brownlie, Sing, and Dopriak for starters. Cabrera is the kind of player the Cubs need.

 

You can't even being trade talks for a 22 year old coming off a .946 OPS season by saying that Pie is untouchable.

[goonys evil twin]

If Cabrera comes available, he'll be traded for no less than the other team's top prospect and then some. Pie isn't even a top tier prospect, so I think we'd be out of any serious bidding. If Cabrera leaves the Marlins, he won't be coming to Chicago.

 

I think the Cubs could put together a package that would satisfy Florida, but I'm not sure they'd even try.

 

 

A lot would depend on how guys play early this year. If Pie gets off to a rocking start his value will increase. If Guzman looks good, he would be of value as well.

 

Pie isn't even a top 25 prospect. If a club wanted to beat out a Cubs offer of Pie, Pawelek, and Hill, they could do it. I'm pretty sure the bidding on Cabrera would be insane in terms of prospects. Guzman is a health concern despite whatever numbers he puts up this year. That seriously hurts his trade value.

 

Any team could probably beat another team's offer by just adding more to the list. Who said Pie, Pawelek and Hill had to be it? And who said Florida ranks prospects just like baseball america?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

If Cabrera comes available, he'll be traded for no less than the other team's top prospect and then some. Pie isn't even a top tier prospect, so I think we'd be out of any serious bidding. If Cabrera leaves the Marlins, he won't be coming to Chicago.

 

I think the Cubs could put together a package that would satisfy Florida, but I'm not sure they'd even try.

 

 

A lot would depend on how guys play early this year. If Pie gets off to a rocking start his value will increase. If Guzman looks good, he would be of value as well.

 

Pie isn't even a top 25 prospect. If a club wanted to beat out a Cubs offer of Pie, Pawelek, and Hill, they could do it. I'm pretty sure the bidding on Cabrera would be insane in terms of prospects. Guzman is a health concern despite whatever numbers he puts up this year. That seriously hurts his trade value.

 

BA rated Pie 27th, Pawelek 85. Those two plus Hill is a very attractive package. Could it be beat? Undoubtedly, especially by either LA team or Arizona. That said, to eliminate us from putting together the best package is premature, especially since we have another full season of prospect development/regression before this supposed deal.

[Guest]

Wow. I knew the Marlins were slashing payroll, but how cheap does a team have to be to decide that first year arb-eligible players are too expensive?

[USSoccer]

I'd give them Pie, Hill, Dopirak, Harvey, Pawalek and Marshall.

 

Seriously.

[Jehrico]

According to the article from the Newark Star-Ledger, seems Cabrera's contract will be too much for the Marlins after next year and that he'll become a nice trade bait.

 

I know the Cubs would probably not be the best match for a trade, but what would it take? Anyone care to take a guess?

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/scorecard/02/27/truth.rumors.mlb/index.html

 

Who cares? Offer them a ton of young players (except Pie). Hill, Brownlie, Sing, and Dopriak for starters. Cabrera is the kind of player the Cubs need.

 

If we're talking Miggy Cabrera, then I say so long Pie, have a nice career in Florida.

 

There's no package of 4 or even 5 prospects in our system I think twice about not giving up to get Cabrera.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

If Cabrera comes available, he'll be traded for no less than the other team's top prospect and then some. Pie isn't even a top tier prospect, so I think we'd be out of any serious bidding. If Cabrera leaves the Marlins, he won't be coming to Chicago.

 

I think the Cubs could put together a package that would satisfy Florida, but I'm not sure they'd even try.

 

 

A lot would depend on how guys play early this year. If Pie gets off to a rocking start his value will increase. If Guzman looks good, he would be of value as well.

 

Pie isn't even a top 25 prospect. If a club wanted to beat out a Cubs offer of Pie, Pawelek, and Hill, they could do it. I'm pretty sure the bidding on Cabrera would be insane in terms of prospects. Guzman is a health concern despite whatever numbers he puts up this year. That seriously hurts his trade value.

 

BA rated Pie 27th, Pawelek 85. Those two plus Hill is a very attractive package. Could it be beat? Undoubtedly, especially by either LA team or Arizona. That said, to eliminate us from putting together the best package is premature, especially since we have another full season of prospect development/regression before this supposed deal.

 

Of course it could be beaten, and rather easily. An offer of Wood and Kendrick trumps pretty much whatever we could offer. They'd still have about 5 top 100 prospects left in their system.

 

Our system just isn't that stacked with top shelf talent and losing some combo of Pie, Pawelek, and Hill would put us in the bottom third of farm systems. I think Cabrera is the type of player that's worth going all out for, but so will other teams...teams that can dish the prospects and only make a stomachable dent in their farm.

[shawndgoldman]

I think the Cubs could put together a package that would satisfy Florida, but I'm not sure they'd even try.

 

I agree. Unfortunately, that's not the issue here.

 

If a club wanted to beat out a Cubs offer of Pie, Pawelek, and Hill, they could do it.

 

That's the issue. Its not a matter of giving FLA enough for them to part with Cabrera. Its a matter of giving them more than another potential suitor could. For starters, we'd have to beat out the Angels and Dodgers, who would both likely be very interested. Brandon Wood, Howie Kendrick, and Kendry Morales, and Jared Weaver are all names that could be thrown around in such trade talks from the Angels, and the Dodgers have a plethora of picthing and IF talent to offer up.

 

I honestly can't see us beating out either of these teams if one is serious about acquiring Cabrera, unless we included MLB pitchers such as Prior or Zambrano. But why would they trade for one of those guys if the whole reason for trading Cabrera is he is about to start making millions in arbitration? I would love to see Cabrera here, but the chances of it actually happening are slimmer than the chances of Dunn coming ever were.

[Mark Priors Calves]

I really don't see the Cubs being able/willing to put together a package to get Cabrera but there's one positive for the Cubs. There has seemingly been interest from both organizations to make deals in the past.

 

1. Clement/Alf-Willis

2. Lee-Choi

3. Pierre-pitchers

[Outshined_One]

I'm not the only one who sees this as posturing done by a NY-area rag to increase circulation and attention, am I? You just know that Mets and Yankees fans are drooling over the idea of picking up Miggy. Then again, fans of pretty much every team would love to have him.

 

I'm not buying the idea. Since the Marlins are trying to move, they'd be smart to hang onto their young talent while it's cheap in order to puff up the perceived value of the franchise along with creating fan interest.

 

Granted, they could probably have their pick of the best prospects and overall players in baseball if they were to trade him (knowing the Marlins, it'd be prospects). However, prospects don't mean much when you're trying to get a fanbase excited about your team.

[CubfaninCA]

According to the article from the Newark Star-Ledger, seems Cabrera's contract will be too much for the Marlins after next year and that he'll become a nice trade bait.

 

I know the Cubs would probably not be the best match for a trade, but what would it take? Anyone care to take a guess?

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/scorecard/02/27/truth.rumors.mlb/index.html

 

When have the Cubs ever got a guy like this?? Please don't answer Sosa cause he wasn't putting up monster years when they got him for Bell. A smarter organization will nab Cabrera, if he's available. Don't bet on the Cubs.

[srbin84]

According to the article from the Newark Star-Ledger, seems Cabrera's contract will be too much for the Marlins after next year and that he'll become a nice trade bait.

 

I know the Cubs would probably not be the best match for a trade, but what would it take? Anyone care to take a guess?

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/scorecard/02/27/truth.rumors.mlb/index.html

 

When have the Cubs ever got a guy like this?? Please don't answer Sosa cause he wasn't putting up monster years when they got him for Bell. A smarter organization will nab Cabrera, if he's available. Don't bet on the Cubs.

 

What about Lee? But I agree, the Cubs aren't gonna get this guy.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

If Cabrera comes available, he'll be traded for no less than the other team's top prospect and then some. Pie isn't even a top tier prospect, so I think we'd be out of any serious bidding. If Cabrera leaves the Marlins, he won't be coming to Chicago.

 

By the time he becomes available, Pawelek could be one of those top prospects.

[Roast]

According to the article from the Newark Star-Ledger, seems Cabrera's contract will be too much for the Marlins after next year and that he'll become a nice trade bait.

 

I know the Cubs would probably not be the best match for a trade, but what would it take? Anyone care to take a guess?

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/scorecard/02/27/truth.rumors.mlb/index.html

 

Who cares? Offer them a ton of young players (except Pie). Hill, Brownlie, Sing, and Dopriak for starters. Cabrera is the kind of player the Cubs need.

 

Forget that. Cabrera is everything we hope Pie to someday be, NOW. And on top of that, Cabrera is only two years older than Pie. I'd give Pie away in a heartbeat.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

If Cabrera comes available, he'll be traded for no less than the other team's top prospect and then some. Pie isn't even a top tier prospect, so I think we'd be out of any serious bidding. If Cabrera leaves the Marlins, he won't be coming to Chicago.

 

By the time he becomes available, Pawelek could be one of those top prospects.

 

Yeah. I included Pawelek in my fictional package for Cabrera (Pawelek, Hill, Pie) a couple posts back. I agree that he's going to jump in value with another solid season (very likely).

 

Still, even if Pawelek makes the top 10, Pie is still second tier and Hill...well, we like to overvalue Hill. Look at the Angels' system. It's packed with top shelf talent.

 

My argument is that other teams with that upper level depth can afford to give up those players and will be more willing to do so than Hendry as it won't destroy their farm system. Our farm system is pretty barren without Pie, Pawelek, and Hill.