Marquis Grissom signs with the Cubs

[TrueBlueCubFan]

Gary Hughes and Grissom go way back, from their Montreal days. This will draw a few jeers here, but Grissom is known to be one of the top "character" guys in baseball and a positive influence in every clubhouse he's been in.

Erik's quote was "Nothing good can come from having Marquis Grissom on this team. Nothing"

 

A top character guy is something, isn't it?

[CubbieSouthpaw]

Gary Hughes and Grissom go way back, from their Montreal days. This will draw a few jeers here, but Grissom is known to be one of the top "character" guys in baseball and a positive influence in every clubhouse he's been in.

Erik's quote was "Nothing good can come from having Marquis Grissom on this team. Nothing"

 

A top character guy is something, isn't it?

 

It seems that he's always been a fan favorite everywhere he's been. I see nothing wrong with him being on the club as long as Dusty doesn't try to over use him. He could be a big help to Murton as far as mentoring.

[TrueBlueCubFan]

Gary Hughes and Grissom go way back, from their Montreal days. This will draw a few jeers here, but Grissom is known to be one of the top "character" guys in baseball and a positive influence in every clubhouse he's been in.

Erik's quote was "Nothing good can come from having Marquis Grissom on this team. Nothing"

 

A top character guy is something, isn't it?

 

It seems that he's always been a fan favorite everywhere he's been. I see nothing wrong with him being on the club as long as Dusty doesn't try to over use him. He could be a big help to Murton as far as mentoring.

I couldn't agree more

[Jehrico]

I like the idea of bringing in Grissom the more I look at it, a guy that kills lefties, can steal a base, plays great defense, lay down a bunt, hit for a little power. For the League min. He's a bench player not a starter.

 

As long as Dusty understands the bolded part, I agree. How sad is it when you really believe that your manager will play a 39 year old has-been who hit .212 last year over a promising young outfielder who has had success on the big league level? It's the life we lead.

 

The one thing we have going for us is that CPatt is probably a goner. If that's so, then we need a bona-fide backup CFer, and no one else on the roster fits that role. Hairston played a little center for us last year, but I think he displayed that he's not a great CFer.

[TrueBlueCubFan]

I like the idea of bringing in Grissom the more I look at it, a guy that kills lefties, can steal a base, plays great defense, lay down a bunt, hit for a little power. For the League min. He's a bench player not a starter.

 

As long as Dusty understands the bolded part, I agree. How sad is it when you really believe that your manager will play a 39 year old has-been who hit .212 last year over a promising young outfielder who has had success on the big league level? It's the life we lead.

 

The one thing we have going for us is that CPatt is probably a goner. If that's so, then we need a bona-fide backup CFer, and no one else on the roster fits that role. Hairston played a little center for us last year, but I think he displayed that he's not a great CFer.

Back-up CF's:

J.Jones

JHJR

Mabry

Pie (if or when called up)

 

A back-up CF is not an issue.

[erik316wttn]

Gary Hughes and Grissom go way back, from their Montreal days. This will draw a few jeers here, but Grissom is known to be one of the top "character" guys in baseball and a positive influence in every clubhouse he's been in.

Erik's quote was "Nothing good can come from having Marquis Grissom on this team. Nothing"

 

A top character guy is something, isn't it?

 

I highly respect the opinion of Mr. Miles, and I think he's one of the more valuable posters on this community. However, he and I must agree to disagree on this one.

 

Grissom may be a good clubhouse guy. If Bruce says it, I believe it (kind of like Cronkite back in the day). However, I think that the extreme possibility of misuse by Dusty would greratly outweigh any potential good that Grissom could bring to the clubhouse.

 

We had a bunch of "good chemistry" guys last year. It didn't work out that well.

[TXCubsFan]

Gary Hughes and Grissom go way back, from their Montreal days. This will draw a few jeers here, but Grissom is known to be one of the top "character" guys in baseball and a positive influence in every clubhouse he's been in.

Erik's quote was "Nothing good can come from having Marquis Grissom on this team. Nothing"

 

A top character guy is something, isn't it?

 

I highly respect the opinion of Mr. Miles, and I think he's one of the more valuable posters on this community. However, he and I must agree to disagree on this one.

 

Grissom may be a good clubhouse guy. If Bruce says it, I believe it (kind of like Cronkite back in the day). However, I think that the extreme possibility of misuse by Dusty would greratly outweigh any potential good that Grissom could bring to the clubhouse.

 

We had a bunch of "good chemistry" guys last year. It didn't work out that well.

 

I disagree. Given Grissom's age, I don't think Dusty can misuse him badly. And if Grissom takes 75 ABs against LHP away from Jacque Jones, then Grissom will have earned his salary.

[erik316wttn]

Gary Hughes and Grissom go way back, from their Montreal days. This will draw a few jeers here, but Grissom is known to be one of the top "character" guys in baseball and a positive influence in every clubhouse he's been in.

Erik's quote was "Nothing good can come from having Marquis Grissom on this team. Nothing"

 

A top character guy is something, isn't it?

 

I highly respect the opinion of Mr. Miles, and I think he's one of the more valuable posters on this community. However, he and I must agree to disagree on this one.

 

Grissom may be a good clubhouse guy. If Bruce says it, I believe it (kind of like Cronkite back in the day). However, I think that the extreme possibility of misuse by Dusty would greratly outweigh any potential good that Grissom could bring to the clubhouse.

 

We had a bunch of "good chemistry" guys last year. It didn't work out that well.

 

I disagree. Given Grissom's age, I don't think Dusty can misuse him badly. And if Grissom takes 75 ABs against LHP away from Jacque Jones, then Grissom will have earned his salary.

 

I don't mind him taking AB's away from Jones. It's taking AB's and playing time away from Murton that I fear.

 

And we all are aware of Dusty's fondness for aging vets. Grissom fits the mold perfectly.

Edited December 31, 2005 by erik316wttn

[Backtobanks]

Could've been worse.....the Cubs could have brought back Jeff Fassero, Antonio Alfonseca, and Shawn Estes

 

The off season's not over yet.

[Abedunk34]

Beautiful! This will complete our outfield of guys who sound French, but really aren't!

 

Marquis-Pierre-Jacque

:lol:

[Bruce Miles]

Gary Hughes and Grissom go way back, from their Montreal days. This will draw a few jeers here, but Grissom is known to be one of the top "character" guys in baseball and a positive influence in every clubhouse he's been in.

Erik's quote was "Nothing good can come from having Marquis Grissom on this team. Nothing"

 

A top character guy is something, isn't it?

 

I highly respect the opinion of Mr. Miles, and I think he's one of the more valuable posters on this community. However, he and I must agree to disagree on this one.

 

Grissom may be a good clubhouse guy. If Bruce says it, I believe it (kind of like Cronkite back in the day). However, I think that the extreme possibility of misuse by Dusty would greratly outweigh any potential good that Grissom could bring to the clubhouse.

 

We had a bunch of "good chemistry" guys last year. It didn't work out that well.

 

Once again, there is nothing here on which to agree or disagree. I'm not advocating Grissom's signing. I'm just pointing out what I know about the guy and what I've been told. On another subject, somebody mentioned Murton above. He's one of the most inquisitive young players on the team. One guy he listens to a lot: Maddux. Too bad Murton doesn't pitch, too.

[Bruce Miles]

Gary Hughes and Grissom go way back, from their Montreal days. This will draw a few jeers here, but Grissom is known to be one of the top "character" guys in baseball and a positive influence in every clubhouse he's been in.

Erik's quote was "Nothing good can come from having Marquis Grissom on this team. Nothing"

 

A top character guy is something, isn't it?

 

I highly respect the opinion of Mr. Miles, and I think he's one of the more valuable posters on this community. However, he and I must agree to disagree on this one.

 

Grissom may be a good clubhouse guy. If Bruce says it, I believe it (kind of like Cronkite back in the day). However, I think that the extreme possibility of misuse by Dusty would greratly outweigh any potential good that Grissom could bring to the clubhouse.

 

We had a bunch of "good chemistry" guys last year. It didn't work out that well.

 

Once again, there is nothing here on which to agree or disagree. I'm not advocating Grissom's signing. I'm just pointing out what I know about the guy and what I've been told. On another subject, somebody mentioned Murton above. He's one of the most inquisitive young players on the team. One guy he listens to a lot: Maddux. Too bad Murton doesn't pitch, too.

[wade]

Bruce, if you're still here,

 

Do you think Murton is a lock in left? Like, absolutely his to lose, or has to show in spring training last year wasn't a fluke?

 

EDIT- And, Happy New Year. Nice to have you stop by on your vacation!

[SouthSideRyan]

 

 

Back-up CF's:

J.Jones

JHJR

Mabry

Pie (if or when called up)

 

A back-up CF is not an issue.

 

If it came to Mabry or Pie as the backup CFs, then it would definitely be an issue.

[CubfaninCA]

Thanks for the info Bruce.

 

Nothing wrong w/ giving out a non-guaranteed minor league contract & trying to catch some lightning in a bottle.

 

Jmo but Murton's too good to get replaced by some vet on his last leg. I'm usually highly suspicious of Cub hitting prospects too. Murton showed A LOT last year.

[Balsa]

Bruce, if you're still here,

 

Do you think Murton is a lock in left? Like, absolutely his to lose, or has to show in spring training last year wasn't a fluke?

 

EDIT- And, Happy New Year. Nice to have you stop by on your vacation!

 

It's good to see he has his priorities straight. :D

[don_kessinger_was_good]

I still say Eduardo Perez would be a nice pickup for the Cubs, a better slugger than Grissom and more flexible in that E. Perez can play all four corner positions. There was a brief blurb that the Cubs might be interested in him about three weeks ago. Bruce Miles was going to check into it. When you get back from New Years, Bruce, I'd be interested in knowing if you found anything out regarding Perez.

 

Because after all, you can't have too many Perez' on one team. Oliver or Odalis next?

[Ram1380]

Nothing good can come from having Marquis Grissom on this team.

 

Nothing.

Bruce seems to disagree with you.

 

I don't agree or disagree. I'm just pointing out what I know and what I've heard about the guy. (Marquis and I could wish each other a happy birthday on the same day, though. But I'm exactly 10 years older!)

 

 

 

Fossil.

 

 

 

:D

[Keener98]

I like the idea of bringing in Grissom the more I look at it, a guy that kills lefties, can steal a base, plays great defense, lay down a bunt, hit for a little power. For the League min. He's a bench player not a starter.

 

As long as Dusty understands the bolded part, I agree. How sad is it when you really believe that your manager will play a 39 year old has-been who hit .212 last year over a promising young outfielder who has had success on the big league level? It's the life we lead.

 

The one thing we have going for us is that CPatt is probably a goner. If that's so, then we need a bona-fide backup CFer, and no one else on the roster fits that role. Hairston played a little center for us last year, but I think he displayed that he's not a great CFer.

Back-up CF's:

J.Jones

JHJR

Mabry

Pie (if or when called up)

 

A back-up CF is not an issue.

 

There is no way in HELL that John Mabry should EVER EVER EVER see playing time in CF. Corner OF, 3rd, and 1st, but never should he be in CF.

[NorthsideAvenger]

I like the idea of bringing in Grissom the more I look at it, a guy that kills lefties, can steal a base, plays great defense, lay down a bunt, hit for a little power. For the League min. He's a bench player not a starter.

 

As long as Dusty understands the bolded part, I agree. How sad is it when you really believe that your manager will play a 39 year old has-been who hit .212 last year over a promising young outfielder who has had success on the big league level? It's the life we lead.

 

The one thing we have going for us is that CPatt is probably a goner. If that's so, then we need a bona-fide backup CFer, and no one else on the roster fits that role. Hairston played a little center for us last year, but I think he displayed that he's not a great CFer.

Back-up CF's:

J.Jones

JHJR

Mabry

Pie (if or when called up)

 

A back-up CF is not an issue.

 

Jacques Jones...agree.

Jerry Hairston, Jr is a FISH OUT OF WATER in the OF.

Mabry's STRICTLY a corner player (1st/3rd, LF/RF) he should never see CF.

Pie: Of course, but he isn't ready.

 

So essentially the Cubs (before Grissom) only had ONE legit backup CF, but I think the Cubs want to leave Jones STRICTLY a corner OFer, hence the signing of Grissom.

[Bruce Miles]

Bruce, if you're still here,

 

Do you think Murton is a lock in left? Like, absolutely his to lose, or has to show in spring training last year wasn't a fluke?

 

EDIT- And, Happy New Year. Nice to have you stop by on your vacation!

 

At this point, the Cubs have every intention of starting Murton in left field to begin the season. That's about as much of a lock as you can have at this point.

[wade]

Bruce, if you're still here,

 

Do you think Murton is a lock in left? Like, absolutely his to lose, or has to show in spring training last year wasn't a fluke?

 

EDIT- And, Happy New Year. Nice to have you stop by on your vacation!

 

At this point, the Cubs have every intention of starting Murton in left field to begin the season. That's about as much of a lock as you can have at this point.

 

Thanks.

[erik316wttn]

Gary Hughes and Grissom go way back, from their Montreal days. This will draw a few jeers here, but Grissom is known to be one of the top "character" guys in baseball and a positive influence in every clubhouse he's been in.

Erik's quote was "Nothing good can come from having Marquis Grissom on this team. Nothing"

 

A top character guy is something, isn't it?

 

I highly respect the opinion of Mr. Miles, and I think he's one of the more valuable posters on this community. However, he and I must agree to disagree on this one.

 

Grissom may be a good clubhouse guy. If Bruce says it, I believe it (kind of like Cronkite back in the day). However, I think that the extreme possibility of misuse by Dusty would greratly outweigh any potential good that Grissom could bring to the clubhouse.

 

We had a bunch of "good chemistry" guys last year. It didn't work out that well.

 

Once again, there is nothing here on which to agree or disagree. I'm not advocating Grissom's signing. I'm just pointing out what I know about the guy and what I've been told. On another subject, somebody mentioned Murton above. He's one of the most inquisitive young players on the team. One guy he listens to a lot: Maddux. Too bad Murton doesn't pitch, too.

 

I see that now. It helps if I read your prior postings.

 

I do appreciate your input on Grissom though, although it scares me because Hendry likes good clubhouse guys (among other things), and I know Dusty would love to have the "veteran presence" in the clubhouse.

 

Those two things lead me to believe there is a very good possibility of Grissom being signed.

[frostwyrm]

The thing that bothers me most is that Dusty will certainly use Grissom's career numbers vs. individual pitchers to justify giving him more starts. Those numbers are of dubious value for any player, but when you're talking about a 39 year old with severely diminished skills they are meaningless.

[RynoRules]

The thing that bothers me most is that Dusty will certainly use Grissom's career numbers vs. individual pitchers to justify giving him more starts. Those numbers are of dubious value for any player, but when you're talking about a 39 year old with severely diminished skills they are meaningless.

 

In substitution for who? I mean, normally I'd agree, but we have it on good authority (see above) that Murton will be the starting LFer. That makes me happy. If they want to bring Grissom in to PH and be a defensive replacement for Matty in the 9th, I am OK with that (I think).