Big Ten Basketball

[Jon]

Man. True freshman Craig Moore is going to be a good one. He drained the three over Kiefer with :00.9 left on the clock to send the game to OT. He sometimes doesn't shoot enough, but he runs the offense well.

 

Vedran wakes up with 29 points and leads Northwestern to an OT win over Purdue...despite being out-rebounded by about 18. They beat the Boilermakers back-to-back on the road for the first time since 1950/1951.

[Flames24Rulz]

Michigan defeats MSU 72-67.

[rawaction]

Michigan defeats MSU 72-67.

 

Yeah, let the teams IU beat keep winning (except Illinois, not knocking U of I but I want them to lose because we have a sure loss coming in Assembly Hall Jr.)

[reggiemiller rules]

There is no reason that Randal shouldnt be scoring more then 8 points a game, its halfs like these that make him so frustrating. He has so much athletic talent but never puts it together for long periods of time

[Flames24Rulz]

well my 20 point prediction in the Illinois game is looking pretty good now :wink:

[Transmogrified Tiger]

MSU fans are pissed about the officiating from tonights game. 34 to 10 FT disparity and 27 to 14 foul disparity in UM's favor. Anyone else see the game?

[stitchface]

MSU fans are pissed about the officiating from tonights game. 34 to 10 FT disparity and 27 to 14 foul disparity in UM's favor. Anyone else see the game?

 

 

yea, its hard to win on the road in the big ten.

[Flames24Rulz]

MSU fans are pissed about the officiating from tonights game. 34 to 10 FT disparity and 27 to 14 foul disparity in UM's favor. Anyone else see the game?

 

yeah I did...Paul Davis definitely got fouled on a layup opportunity late in the game and there was no foul call. I can see how MSU fans were pissed tonight...Michigan is not that bad of a team though this year.

[Flames24Rulz]

Illinois wins 77-53 :D

[hawkeyecub]

Big win by Michigan tonight. If Iowa (vs. OSU) and Michigan (vs. Wisc)hold serve at home this weekend, we'll have a 5-way tie for first place in the Big Ten.

[stitchface]

Big win by Michigan tonight. If Iowa (vs. OSU) and Michigan (vs. Wisc)hold serve at home this weekend, we'll have a 5-way tie for first place in the Big Ten.

 

just like the old days! Quick, who won the big ten in 1989?

[UMFan83]

MSU fans are pissed about the officiating from tonights game. 34 to 10 FT disparity and 27 to 14 foul disparity in UM's favor. Anyone else see the game?

 

I am a Michigan fan and even I was upset at the crappy calls against MSU. However there were a couple of calls against UM too (Paul Davis slipping and Brown getting a foul without making contact), but its obvious Michigan was helped today. This is getting pathetic to watch the home court advantage extended by the refs

[gflore34]

MSU fans are pissed about the officiating from tonights game. 34 to 10 FT disparity and 27 to 14 foul disparity in UM's favor. Anyone else see the game?

 

yeah I did...Paul Davis definitely got fouled on a layup opportunity late in the game and there was no foul call. I can see how MSU fans were pissed tonight...Michigan is not that bad of a team though this year.

 

I watched it as well, not only was Davis fouled, I can't believe Pentway(SP?) got away with that shoulder and elbow after the Ager' alley-oop dunk. And that happened right in front of the Official! I understand the home team is going to get the majority of the calls in its favor but, a 34-10 FT discrepancy is a little bit too much.

[Sweep The Leg Johnny]

The point is that this is the extreme of one end of the spectrum, but considering that there was a bit of a gameplan(the aforementioned packing of the lane) that led to this type of shooting, and the fact that the team was/is relying on good/great shooting to cover Tucker's inefficiencies, it's not that far out of the question for Wisconsin to have another poor shooting night if a similar strategy is employed. Not 22% bad, but enough that a team like PSU(who again is better than ND St.) could hang with and possibly upset UW.

 

The case with ND State was more of case of Wisconsin beating themselves than a good game plan. Not to take credit away from ND State, they deserved to win, but their game plan wasn't unique. This approach has been used many times in the past, and off the top of my head its been used at least 3 other times in Wisconsin's non-conference schedule this season.

 

As for Tucker, I'm not surprised you're seeing horrific shooting performances. He's surrounded by a very young cast and this is his first season in a true leadership role. At times he's been pressing. Additionally - that mask hasn't done him any favors at all, especially at the FT line. He'll get better as the team establishes more of an identity and he establishes his leadership role.

 

Wisconsin rolled past PSU easily today. But the rest of their Big Ten season has gotten much harder as both Landry and Stiemsma are out of the season. What was once a bright spot, their front court depth, has now become a big issue.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

MSU fans are pissed about the officiating from tonights game. 34 to 10 FT disparity and 27 to 14 foul disparity in UM's favor. Anyone else see the game?

 

yeah I did...Paul Davis definitely got fouled on a layup opportunity late in the game and there was no foul call. I can see how MSU fans were pissed tonight...Michigan is not that bad of a team though this year.

 

I watched it as well, not only was Davis fouled, I can't believe Pentway(SP?) got away with that shoulder and elbow after the Ager' alley-oop dunk. And that happened right in front of the Official! I understand the home team is going to get the majority of the calls in its favor but, a 34-10 FT discrepancy is a little bit too much.

 

I just saw the replay of that elbow, that was ridiculous.

[Chocolate Milk]

I'm not really sure what that guy is talking about regarding "prolific rim denting" by Tucker. Before going 2-18 last game he was shooting 46% which is pretty respectible and in line with the Agers and Shannon Browns of the world. By no means is he a great shooter, but to call him a prolific rim denter that the rest of the team must make up for is a pretty absurd statement.

 

Edit: In fact, Tucker shoots right around the team average.

 

Tucker's effectiveFG% is 45%, 51st of 60 qualified Big 10 players. Only Krabbenhoft is worse on UW. He's 57th of 60 in PPWS, worst on his team.

 

Thanks for this site, by the way. It's pretty flawless.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I'm not really sure what that guy is talking about regarding "prolific rim denting" by Tucker. Before going 2-18 last game he was shooting 46% which is pretty respectible and in line with the Agers and Shannon Browns of the world. By no means is he a great shooter, but to call him a prolific rim denter that the rest of the team must make up for is a pretty absurd statement.

 

Edit: In fact, Tucker shoots right around the team average.

 

Tucker's effectiveFG% is 45%, 51st of 60 qualified Big 10 players. Only Krabbenhoft is worse on UW. He's 57th of 60 in PPWS, worst on his team.

 

Thanks for this site, by the way. It's pretty flawless.

 

I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not. Either way, I laughed when I saw that Wisconsin was up 20+ from the getgo on the jumbotron. So much for the poor shooting night.

[Chocolate Milk]

I'm not really sure what that guy is talking about regarding "prolific rim denting" by Tucker. Before going 2-18 last game he was shooting 46% which is pretty respectible and in line with the Agers and Shannon Browns of the world. By no means is he a great shooter, but to call him a prolific rim denter that the rest of the team must make up for is a pretty absurd statement.

 

Edit: In fact, Tucker shoots right around the team average.

 

Tucker's effectiveFG% is 45%, 51st of 60 qualified Big 10 players. Only Krabbenhoft is worse on UW. He's 57th of 60 in PPWS, worst on his team.

 

Thanks for this site, by the way. It's pretty flawless.

 

I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not. Either way, I laughed when I saw that Wisconsin was up 20+ from the getgo on the jumbotron. So much for the poor shooting night.

 

No sarcasm. It's great!

 

I can't beleive how stupid you'd have to be to be declared academically ineligible.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I'm not really sure what that guy is talking about regarding "prolific rim denting" by Tucker. Before going 2-18 last game he was shooting 46% which is pretty respectible and in line with the Agers and Shannon Browns of the world. By no means is he a great shooter, but to call him a prolific rim denter that the rest of the team must make up for is a pretty absurd statement.

 

Edit: In fact, Tucker shoots right around the team average.

 

Tucker's effectiveFG% is 45%, 51st of 60 qualified Big 10 players. Only Krabbenhoft is worse on UW. He's 57th of 60 in PPWS, worst on his team.

 

Thanks for this site, by the way. It's pretty flawless.

 

I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not. Either way, I laughed when I saw that Wisconsin was up 20+ from the getgo on the jumbotron. So much for the poor shooting night.

 

No sarcasm. It's great!

 

I can't beleive how stupid you'd have to be to be declared academically ineligible.

 

I think I read something that Stiesma's original leave was due to depression, and that depression also affected him academically to the point where he wasn't eligible.

[Chocolate Milk]

I think I read something that Stiesma's original leave was due to depression, and that depression also affected him academically to the point where he wasn't eligible.

 

On one hand, I feel for him but on the other hand, he only needed to maintain a 1.85.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I think I read something that Stiesma's original leave was due to depression, and that depression also affected him academically to the point where he wasn't eligible.

 

On one hand, I feel for him but on the other hand, he only needed to maintain a 1.85.

 

Yikes, he must've been really down.

[illiniguy]

I was goofing around with my dad and brother yesterday before the wisky game started and we were all like, man I wouldn't want to be penn state playing wisky after there last game. Anyone who didn't see a 30 point blow out there was crazy or blind, or both.

[badgercub]

I think I read something that Stiesma's original leave was due to depression, and that depression also affected him academically to the point where he wasn't eligible.

 

On one hand, I feel for him but on the other hand, he only needed to maintain a 1.85.

 

Yikes, he must've been really down.

 

Stiemsa addressed the media yesterday before the game saying that he has been battling depression for sometime and it has affected his schoolwork all semester.

 

Landry is a whole different story, he apparently has some sort of learning disability and it sounds like he probably has problems taking tests (whether he needs more time, or does better on verbal exams I am not sure). He seems to be very intelligent and well spoken when I have seen him interviewed, I also saw a bio on him where he can play five different instruments not that that makes him smart but I don't necessarilly think he is dumb either. He also went to a school in Milwaukee that is not known so much for it's academics.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I think I read something that Stiesma's original leave was due to depression, and that depression also affected him academically to the point where he wasn't eligible.

 

On one hand, I feel for him but on the other hand, he only needed to maintain a 1.85.

 

:shock:

[dalgreen]

There is no reason that Randal shouldnt be scoring more then 8 points a game, its halfs like these that make him so frustrating. He has so much athletic talent but never puts it together for long periods of time

 

Randall is the most talented and gifted player on the Illini. He is very frustrating at times. I have to keep telling myself that this is really his first full season, although he did play rather sparingly in the 2003-3004 season. I'm still not so sure why Weber named him one of the captains, though. And what is with Richard McBride's poor shooting this year? He hasn't been able to bury the three like he has in the past.