New news on Jacque Jones

[rawaction]

The most disheartening things are, in order:

 

1. Giles was not on their list, whatsoever.

2. Abreu doesn't seem like he was ever an option.

3. The outside of the box is still scary to Mr. Hendry and the Cubs.

[Bruno7481]

When I see all this stuff about the Cubs seeking a "left-handed hitting right fielder", it makes me wonder even more why we had no interest in going after Brian Giles....he would have fit the bill perfectly, just doesn't make any sense at all.

 

signing giles would be admitting that there's something to the statistic of on-base percentage. hendry will never do that, he hates OBP, and will go out of his way to avoid players who have it.

 

Who wouldn't want Giles? But I think its unfair to criticize Hendry for not signing Giles. Giles had no intentions of leaving the West Coast. He turned down bigger money elsewhere to stay in SD.

 

according to who?

 

Ummm..maybe Giles?

 

Giles signed for 3/30 to stay in SD. Didn't Toronto offer him some big money? I know LA was in on him, but they are also a West Coast team.

 

Giles has made no secret over the years as to his preference for playing on the West Coast. This isn't news.

[UMFan83]

Sweet, so 2009 is our target year for a WS Title?

[Guest]

The most disheartening things are, in order:

 

1. Giles was not on their list, whatsoever.

2. Abreu doesn't seem like he was ever an option.

3. The outside of the box is still scary to Mr. Hendry and the Cubs.

Maybe it's just me, but I'd add the strong possibility that Jones will still be a Cub in 2008 to your list.

[Magnetic Curses]

When I see all this stuff about the Cubs seeking a "left-handed hitting right fielder", it makes me wonder even more why we had no interest in going after Brian Giles....he would have fit the bill perfectly, just doesn't make any sense at all.

 

signing giles would be admitting that there's something to the statistic of on-base percentage. hendry will never do that, he hates OBP, and will go out of his way to avoid players who have it.

 

Who wouldn't want Giles? But I think its unfair to criticize Hendry for not signing Giles. Giles had no intentions of leaving the West Coast. He turned down bigger money elsewhere to stay in SD.

 

according to who?

 

Ummm..maybe Giles?

 

Giles signed for 3/30 to stay in SD. Didn't Toronto offer him some big money? I know LA was in on him, but they are also a West Coast team.

 

Giles has made no secret over the years as to his preference for playing on the West Coast. This isn't news.

 

ummmm......are you in contact with him? because there was nothing out of the giles camp to indicate that any team had offered him more than 10 mil per.

 

so unless you had some inside info, you couldn't know.

[AramisRamirez]

jacque jones will bat .350, with a .500 OBP, hit 50 home runs, and steal 40 bases for the cubs in 2006.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ok, now that the mesculine has worn off, i can see he will bat .247 like he did last year!! go cubbies!!! we need to get to that 80-win mark desperately!!

[YearofDaCubs]

When I see all this stuff about the Cubs seeking a "left-handed hitting right fielder", it makes me wonder even more why we had no interest in going after Brian Giles....he would have fit the bill perfectly, just doesn't make any sense at all.

 

signing giles would be admitting that there's something to the statistic of on-base percentage. hendry will never do that, he hates OBP, and will go out of his way to avoid players who have it.

 

Who wouldn't want Giles? But I think its unfair to criticize Hendry for not signing Giles. Giles had no intentions of leaving the West Coast. He turned down bigger money elsewhere to stay in SD.

 

according to who?

 

Ummm..maybe Giles?

 

Giles signed for 3/30 to stay in SD. Didn't Toronto offer him some big money? I know LA was in on him, but they are also a West Coast team.

 

Giles has made no secret over the years as to his preference for playing on the West Coast. This isn't news.

Pure speculation that Toronto denies and I believe those rumors to be untrue. Nobody would offer Giles a 5 year contract which was rumored. Offer a 3/36 contract and see what happens. At least try to sign the guy. Now we are stuck with mediocre(as usual) options at RF. What a joke.

[abuck1220]

i don't understand how jones is anything more than a 4th OF. his #'s are similar to burnitz's, and nobody's knocking down his door w/ three year offers. if you sign jones to a 3 yr deal and lock up pierre for a few more years, you might as well trade pie or murton.

 

a team w/ one of the highest payrolls in the game should NOT have, hands down, the worst offensive outfield in baseball. that is embarrassing. hendry's going to sign jones, throw up his hands and say 'what else could i do?' as if giles, wilkerson and bradley were not viable options. not willing to overpay for giles, but you're ok overpaying for a guy whose obp is 100 points worse?

[Billy_Buck]

I'm just going to be really pissed if he signs Jones for 3 years. With Wilson at 1 year, at least you don't really HAVE to play him if, say, Patterson gets his head out of his rectum and becomes a ballplayer. But if you give Jones 3 years, 15 million or worse, that's a lot of money for a 4th outfielder. And should Patterson break out, hmm, I wonder which outfielder will be replaced by Jones the second he slumps. Say hello to Jacque Jones, left fielder!

 

SHOOT...ME...NOW

I'm going to go against the grain and say JJones at 3/15 isn't that bad. Even if he's worthless, at least he's paying the Cubs $5mil per, money that can be used for...

 

Huh? You'd actually consider PAYING HIM for 3 years? OMG. :cry:

 

I've tried to stay on the fence about Jim... but he's trying hard to push me off and leave me for dead.

[UK1679666180]

I would rather see Huff or Sanders over Jones or Wilson. Of course, you have to trade for Huff and sign Sanders to a multi-year deal ala Jones.

 

Personally, I don't think there would much of a drop offensively between Grieve and someone like Jones and Wilson, defensively Wilson and Jones are much better.

[CuseCubFan69]

I don't think this is true and it's just a writer trying to fit Jones on a team.

[CubinNY]

I don't think this is true and it's just a writer trying to fit Jones on a team.

 

What happened to St. Louis's pursuit of Jack?

[CuseCubFan69]

I don't think this is true and it's just a writer trying to fit Jones on a team.

 

What happened to St. Louis's pursuit of Jack?

 

Jack Jones? :D Who's Jack?

[RynoRules]

I would rather give Reggie Sanders a one year deal for $5.5 mill with a mutual option for a second at $7.0 mill. Check out his stats:

 

http://www.baseballreference.com/s/sandere02.shtml

 

I think you could count on a .335-40 OBP and an .800-plus OPS, which I could live with in light of the other options.

[CuseCubFan69]

I would rather give Reggie Sanders a one year deal for $5.5 mill with a mutual option for a second at $7.0 mill. Check out his stats:

 

http://www.baseballreference.com/s/sandere02.shtml

 

I think you could count on a .335-40 OBP and an .800-plus OPS, which I could live with in light of the other options.

 

As would I but he catches the ball with his head and I think that Hendry is leaning towards OF's that use a glove.

[CubbieSouthpaw]

OK, so who is a better option. Preston Wilson for a year or Jacque Jones for 3?

 

Preston Wilson for one year. You didn't say death wasn't an option...

 

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!

Death, could we make it an option?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I would rather give Reggie Sanders a one year deal for $5.5 mill with a mutual option for a second at $7.0 mill. Check out his stats:

 

http://www.baseballreference.com/s/sandere02.shtml

 

I think you could count on a .335-40 OBP, which I could live with, in light of the other options.

 

After declining Burnitz's option, we likely could have signed him for that or less (some said $4-5 mil). Burnitz is a bit more valuable than Sanders since he is LH and 2 years younger. The numbers are pretty much a wash. It doesn't make sense to let Burny walk to bring in an older guy to do the same things.

[RynoRules]

I would rather give Reggie Sanders a one year deal for $5.5 mill with a mutual option for a second at $7.0 mill. Check out his stats:

 

http://www.baseballreference.com/s/sandere02.shtml

 

I think you could count on a .335-40 OBP and an .800-plus OPS, which I could live with in light of the other options.

 

As would I but he catches the ball with his head and I think that Hendry is leaning towards OF's that use a glove.

 

Is there an emoticon for spontaneous combustion?

[sethuel1]

I would rather give Reggie Sanders a one year deal for $5.5 mill with a mutual option for a second at $7.0 mill. Check out his stats:

 

http://www.baseballreference.com/s/sandere02.shtml

 

I think you could count on a .335-40 OBP, which I could live with, in light of the other options.

 

After declining Burnitz's option, we likely could have signed him for that or less (some said $4-5 mil). Burnitz is a bit more valuable than Sanders since he is LH and 2 years younger. The numbers are pretty much a wash. It doesn't make sense to let Burny walk to bring in an older guy to do the same things.

 

We can't sign Burny until after May 1st. So, we can't sign Burny.

[RynoRules]

I would rather give Reggie Sanders a one year deal for $5.5 mill with a mutual option for a second at $7.0 mill. Check out his stats:

 

http://www.baseballreference.com/s/sandere02.shtml

 

I think you could count on a .335-40 OBP, which I could live with, in light of the other options.

 

After declining Burnitz's option, we likely could have signed him for that or less (some said $4-5 mil). Burnitz is a bit more valuable than Sanders since he is LH and 2 years younger. The numbers are pretty much a wash. It doesn't make sense to let Burny walk to bring in an older guy to do the same things.

 

Wash?:

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/burnije01.shtml

 

I dunno about that.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I would rather give Reggie Sanders a one year deal for $5.5 mill with a mutual option for a second at $7.0 mill. Check out his stats:

 

http://www.baseballreference.com/s/sandere02.shtml

 

I think you could count on a .335-40 OBP, which I could live with, in light of the other options.

 

After declining Burnitz's option, we likely could have signed him for that or less (some said $4-5 mil). Burnitz is a bit more valuable than Sanders since he is LH and 2 years younger. The numbers are pretty much a wash. It doesn't make sense to let Burny walk to bring in an older guy to do the same things.

 

We can't sign Burny until after May 1st. So, we can't sign Burny.

 

That I am well aware of. I was comparing Sanders to Burny, whom we let walk. It makes no sense to purposefully regress in that position.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I would rather give Reggie Sanders a one year deal for $5.5 mill with a mutual option for a second at $7.0 mill. Check out his stats:

 

http://www.baseballreference.com/s/sandere02.shtml

 

I think you could count on a .335-40 OBP, which I could live with, in light of the other options.

 

After declining Burnitz's option, we likely could have signed him for that or less (some said $4-5 mil). Burnitz is a bit more valuable than Sanders since he is LH and 2 years younger. The numbers are pretty much a wash. It doesn't make sense to let Burny walk to bring in an older guy to do the same things.

 

Wash?:

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/burnije01.shtml

 

I dunno about that.

 

I do:

 

Sanders:

267/344/491/835

 

Burnitz:

255/348/485/833

[UK1679666180]

The numbers are pretty much a wash.

 

There's a big enough difference in numbers to merit bringing in Sanders over Burnitz.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

The numbers are pretty much a wash.

 

There's a big enough difference in numbers to merit bringing in Sanders over Burnitz.

 

WHERE???

[goonys evil twin]

I do:

 

Sanders:

267/344/491/835

 

Burnitz:

255/348/485/833

 

Career only? Not much to go on, especially when talking about two old guys. Burnitz's slightly younger age does nothing for me. They're both old. Sanders has held up better with age. Outside of Coors Burnitz has been awful for a while.