Bruce Levine update on Tejada 12/13/05

[CubsWin22]

Sorry if this was posted already....making this a new thread because not everyone wants to dig through pages and pages of these other threads to see if there is new NEWS. Hope this is ok.......

 

 

Bruce is on with Mac, Jurko, and Harry and just said that the Tejada trade IS a realistic possibility. He said it is NOT a "pie in the sky" idea but rather something that actually could get done. Tejada does not have a no trade and the Orioles can move him if they want.

 

He said the Cubs would probably send 5 players...Hill, KPat, Williams, Cedono, and Guzman to get it done.

 

He also said that if the Cubs were to add Tejada that Jacque Jones becomes a realistic possibility in RF. Also, if Manny goes to the Mets then Floyd is a real possibility as well.

 

Just passing on what I heard.

[David]

Floyd and Tejada and I'd be very happy with the lineup...especially if we got "stuck" keeping Walker.

 

Pierre, Walker, Lee, Ramirez, Tejada, Floyd, Murton, Barrett

 

Solid...

[snoodmonger]

Sorry if this was posted already....making this a new thread because not everyone wants to dig through pages and pages of these other threads to see if there is new NEWS. Hope this is ok.......

 

 

Bruce is on with Mac, Jurko, and Harry and just said that the Tejada trade IS a realistic possibility. He said it is NOT a "pie in the sky" idea but rather something that actually could get done. Tejada does not have a no trade and the Orioles can move him if they want.

 

He said the Cubs would probably send 5 players...Hill, KPat, Williams, Cedono, and Guzman to get it done.

 

He also said that if the Cubs were to add Tejada that Jacque Jones becomes a realistic possibility in RF. Also, if Manny goes to the Mets then Floyd is a real possibility as well.

 

Just passing on what I heard.

 

I thought Miggs backed off on his demands. The Os are still shopping him (or entertaining deals, at least)?

[jmajew]

If we get Miggy I don't think we will need to trade for Floyd. I'd be more than happy to sign Juan Encarnacion to play Right. Plus if we trade for Floyd there is no doubt in my mind we would have to give up Todd Walker. I'd hate to see Walker go, he is the perfect number 2 hitter. In all honesty, I wonder if Hendry has offered that up already. It actually seems to make sense for both teams.

[UMFan83]

I think that Jacque Jones is a realistic possibility with or without Tejada

[Andy]

This is still Bruce Levine, remember. Who knows if this is real news or just attempting to keep Cubs fans' ears turned to the radio.

[CubFanPhilly]

This is still Bruce Levine, remember. Who knows if this is real news or just attempting to keep Cubs fans' ears turned to the radio.

 

Exactly.

[Coach.]

I'll believe it when I see it. My excitement is pegged on "E" after Furcal.

[Diffusion]

I'm not sure how Floyd is a realistic possibility if the Cubs are sending every single frigging possible trade chip they own to the O's for Tejada!

 

Get Abreu, stick with Walker and Cedeno up the middle.

[Blueheart05]

I'm not sure how Floyd is a realistic possibility if the Cubs are sending every single frigging possible trade chip they own to the O's for Tejada!

 

Get Abreu, stick with Walker and Cedeno up the middle.

 

 

Abreu is only a possiblity if Philly lowers their trade expectations. Insisting on Prior or Zambrano is not reasonable.

 

Edit: From my understanding, Floyd could come if the Mets trade for Manny; the Cubs could somehow piggyback on a threeway trade or be an indirect beneficary of the Mets crowded outfield (assuming the Manny trade is consumated).

[BigbadB]

I'm not sure how Floyd is a realistic possibility if the Cubs are sending every single frigging possible trade chip they own to the O's for Tejada!

 

Get Abreu, stick with Walker and Cedeno up the middle.

 

 

Abreu is only a possiblity if Philly lowers their trade expectations. Insisting on Prior or Zambrano is not reasonable.

 

Edit: From my understanding, Floyd could come if the Mets trade for Manny; the Cubs could somehow piggyback on a threeway trade or be an indirect beneficary of the Mets crowded outfield (assuming the Manny trade is consumated).

 

Exactly! The Mets will need to move Floyd's contract if they get Manny.

[Jehrico]

Sorry if this was posted already....making this a new thread because not everyone wants to dig through pages and pages of these other threads to see if there is new NEWS. Hope this is ok.......

 

 

Bruce is on with Mac, Jurko, and Harry and just said that the Tejada trade IS a realistic possibility. He said it is NOT a "pie in the sky" idea but rather something that actually could get done. Tejada does not have a no trade and the Orioles can move him if they want.

 

He said the Cubs would probably send 5 players...Hill, KPat, Williams, Cedono, and Guzman to get it done.

 

He also said that if the Cubs were to add Tejada that Jacque Jones becomes a realistic possibility in RF. Also, if Manny goes to the Mets then Floyd is a real possibility as well.

 

Just passing on what I heard.

 

Maybe I'm naive, maybe I never learn. But I would insist on holding back on sending them Guzman in the deal. I think this is the year he puts his arm problems behind him.

[JC]

I have no faith in Levine. None. I think he is pretty worthless to be honest.

 

However, nobody should be shocked that Tejada is still on the table despite the public "recsision" of his trade demand. Its in the best interests of both parties (Tejada and the Orioles) to make nice. This is something the Cub organization doesn't grasp.

 

The Orioles get vastly better trade leverage if Tejada publicly backs off his trade demand. At the same time, Tejada's wish to be traded increases in likelihood if the Orioles can get commensurate value for him, which can only be done if Tejada appears content in Baltimore.

 

Just because the Cubs air all of their dirty laundry in public doesn't mean its the proper way to run an organization or make a trade.

[Andy]

Sorry if this was posted already....making this a new thread because not everyone wants to dig through pages and pages of these other threads to see if there is new NEWS. Hope this is ok.......

 

 

Bruce is on with Mac, Jurko, and Harry and just said that the Tejada trade IS a realistic possibility. He said it is NOT a "pie in the sky" idea but rather something that actually could get done. Tejada does not have a no trade and the Orioles can move him if they want.

 

He said the Cubs would probably send 5 players...Hill, KPat, Williams, Cedono, and Guzman to get it done.

 

He also said that if the Cubs were to add Tejada that Jacque Jones becomes a realistic possibility in RF. Also, if Manny goes to the Mets then Floyd is a real possibility as well.

 

Just passing on what I heard.

 

Maybe I'm naive, maybe I never learn. But I would insist on holding back on sending them Guzman in the deal. I think this is the year he puts his arm problems behind him.

You're naive and you never learn. We should know by now that except for Z, who seems to be immune to everything, all young stud Cub pitchers have arm troubles (Wood and Guzman) or suffer one fluke injury after another (Prior).

[Jehrico]

I have no faith in Levine. None. I think he is pretty worthless to be honest.

 

However, nobody should be shocked that Tejada is still on the table despite the public "recsision" of his trade demand. Its in the best interests of both parties (Tejada and the Orioles) to make nice. This is something the Cub organization doesn't grasp.

 

The Orioles get vastly better trade leverage if Tejada publicly backs off his trade demand. At the same time, Tejada's wish to be traded increases in likelihood if the Orioles can get commensurate value for him, which can only be done if Tejada appears content in Baltimore.

 

Just because the Cubs air all of their dirty laundry in public doesn't mean its the proper way to run an organization or make a trade.

 

Tejada making like his remarks were misconstrued makes him seem like a better employee, and may make more teams interested in him as well.

[JC]

I have no faith in Levine. None. I think he is pretty worthless to be honest.

 

However, nobody should be shocked that Tejada is still on the table despite the public "recsision" of his trade demand. Its in the best interests of both parties (Tejada and the Orioles) to make nice. This is something the Cub organization doesn't grasp.

 

The Orioles get vastly better trade leverage if Tejada publicly backs off his trade demand. At the same time, Tejada's wish to be traded increases in likelihood if the Orioles can get commensurate value for him, which can only be done if Tejada appears content in Baltimore.

 

Just because the Cubs air all of their dirty laundry in public doesn't mean its the proper way to run an organization or make a trade.

 

Tejada making like his remarks were misconstrued makes him seem like a better employee, and may make more teams interested in him as well.

 

Exactamundo. Though, I doubt there are many clubs who wouldn't want Tejada who don't have star shortstops already.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I have no faith in Levine. None. I think he is pretty worthless to be honest.

 

However, nobody should be shocked that Tejada is still on the table despite the public "recsision" of his trade demand. Its in the best interests of both parties (Tejada and the Orioles) to make nice. This is something the Cub organization doesn't grasp.

 

The Orioles get vastly better trade leverage if Tejada publicly backs off his trade demand. At the same time, Tejada's wish to be traded increases in likelihood if the Orioles can get commensurate value for him, which can only be done if Tejada appears content in Baltimore.

 

Just because the Cubs air all of their dirty laundry in public doesn't mean its the proper way to run an organization or make a trade.

 

Tejada making like his remarks were misconstrued makes him seem like a better employee, and may make more teams interested in him as well.

 

That doesn't make sense to me. If a team inquired about Tejada and found he was still available, wouldn't they know that his remarks were just a ploy?

[JC]

I have no faith in Levine. None. I think he is pretty worthless to be honest.

 

However, nobody should be shocked that Tejada is still on the table despite the public "recsision" of his trade demand. Its in the best interests of both parties (Tejada and the Orioles) to make nice. This is something the Cub organization doesn't grasp.

 

The Orioles get vastly better trade leverage if Tejada publicly backs off his trade demand. At the same time, Tejada's wish to be traded increases in likelihood if the Orioles can get commensurate value for him, which can only be done if Tejada appears content in Baltimore.

 

Just because the Cubs air all of their dirty laundry in public doesn't mean its the proper way to run an organization or make a trade.

 

Tejada making like his remarks were misconstrued makes him seem like a better employee, and may make more teams interested in him as well.

 

That doesn't make sense to me. If a team inquired about Tejada and found he was still available, wouldn't they know that his remarks were just a ploy?

 

Its about the desperation of the club that goes to the value you can expect in return. It has a very real effect on negotiations.

[stitchface]

I think the Orioles may agree with Tejada that they need to be in rebuilding mode (actually he said the opposite but by trading him they clearly enter that mode). If Miggy goes, Javy and Mora likely follow. The Orioles have to establish some young cheap talent if they have any hope to compete. If they can't compete within Miggy's current contract, they have to trade him. For PR reasons I would imagine they want to make it look like they weren't forced to do it though. I personally think he will be traded. His reversal buys time and shuts everyone up.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I have no faith in Levine. None. I think he is pretty worthless to be honest.

 

However, nobody should be shocked that Tejada is still on the table despite the public "recsision" of his trade demand. Its in the best interests of both parties (Tejada and the Orioles) to make nice. This is something the Cub organization doesn't grasp.

 

The Orioles get vastly better trade leverage if Tejada publicly backs off his trade demand. At the same time, Tejada's wish to be traded increases in likelihood if the Orioles can get commensurate value for him, which can only be done if Tejada appears content in Baltimore.

 

Just because the Cubs air all of their dirty laundry in public doesn't mean its the proper way to run an organization or make a trade.

 

Tejada making like his remarks were misconstrued makes him seem like a better employee, and may make more teams interested in him as well.

 

That doesn't make sense to me. If a team inquired about Tejada and found he was still available, wouldn't they know that his remarks were just a ploy?

 

Its about the desperation of the club that goes to the value you can expect in return. It has a very real effect on negotiations.

 

But how is another team going to value Tejada more when they know that his comments were just for show?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I have no faith in Levine. None. I think he is pretty worthless to be honest.

 

However, nobody should be shocked that Tejada is still on the table despite the public "recsision" of his trade demand. Its in the best interests of both parties (Tejada and the Orioles) to make nice. This is something the Cub organization doesn't grasp.

 

The Orioles get vastly better trade leverage if Tejada publicly backs off his trade demand. At the same time, Tejada's wish to be traded increases in likelihood if the Orioles can get commensurate value for him, which can only be done if Tejada appears content in Baltimore.

 

Just because the Cubs air all of their dirty laundry in public doesn't mean its the proper way to run an organization or make a trade.

 

Tejada making like his remarks were misconstrued makes him seem like a better employee, and may make more teams interested in him as well.

 

That doesn't make sense to me. If a team inquired about Tejada and found he was still available, wouldn't they know that his remarks were just a ploy?

 

Its about the desperation of the club that goes to the value you can expect in return. It has a very real effect on negotiations.

 

But how is another team going to value Tejada more when they know that his comments were just for show?

 

I think in this case, it's more about saving face than trying to drive someone's value up.

[Geech]

But how is another team going to value Tejada more when they know that his comments were just for show?

 

Pomp is baseball's foundation, and the other teams will play along because it's just as important to them, too.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I have no faith in Levine. None. I think he is pretty worthless to be honest.

 

However, nobody should be shocked that Tejada is still on the table despite the public "recsision" of his trade demand. Its in the best interests of both parties (Tejada and the Orioles) to make nice. This is something the Cub organization doesn't grasp.

 

The Orioles get vastly better trade leverage if Tejada publicly backs off his trade demand. At the same time, Tejada's wish to be traded increases in likelihood if the Orioles can get commensurate value for him, which can only be done if Tejada appears content in Baltimore.

 

Just because the Cubs air all of their dirty laundry in public doesn't mean its the proper way to run an organization or make a trade.

 

Tejada making like his remarks were misconstrued makes him seem like a better employee, and may make more teams interested in him as well.

 

That doesn't make sense to me. If a team inquired about Tejada and found he was still available, wouldn't they know that his remarks were just a ploy?

 

Its about the desperation of the club that goes to the value you can expect in return. It has a very real effect on negotiations.

 

But how is another team going to value Tejada more when they know that his comments were just for show?

 

I think in this case, it's more about saving face than trying to drive someone's value up.

 

I'm talking specifically about Jehrico's quote: "Tejada making like his remarks were misconstrued makes him seem like a better employee, and may make more teams interested in him as well."

[CP_414]

Sorry if this was posted already....making this a new thread because not everyone wants to dig through pages and pages of these other threads to see if there is new NEWS. Hope this is ok.......

 

 

Bruce is on with Mac, Jurko, and Harry and just said that the Tejada trade IS a realistic possibility. He said it is NOT a "pie in the sky" idea but rather something that actually could get done. Tejada does not have a no trade and the Orioles can move him if they want.

 

He said the Cubs would probably send 5 players...Hill, KPat, Williams, Cedono, and Guzman to get it done.

 

He also said that if the Cubs were to add Tejada that Jacque Jones becomes a realistic possibility in RF. Also, if Manny goes to the Mets then Floyd is a real possibility as well.

 

Just passing on what I heard.

 

Hill, Patterson, Cedeno, Williams, and Guzman...I would try to get Williams, Hill, or Guzman excluded from that deal, but if it came down to it I would do that trade.

 

Cedeno is redundant if you have Tejada and Walker. Patterson is no loss, but it would be hard to part with all 3 of those pitchers.

 

I guess it doesn't really matter since, Levine is just throwing random names out anyway.

[Jehrico]

I have no faith in Levine. None. I think he is pretty worthless to be honest.

 

However, nobody should be shocked that Tejada is still on the table despite the public "recsision" of his trade demand. Its in the best interests of both parties (Tejada and the Orioles) to make nice. This is something the Cub organization doesn't grasp.

 

The Orioles get vastly better trade leverage if Tejada publicly backs off his trade demand. At the same time, Tejada's wish to be traded increases in likelihood if the Orioles can get commensurate value for him, which can only be done if Tejada appears content in Baltimore.

 

Just because the Cubs air all of their dirty laundry in public doesn't mean its the proper way to run an organization or make a trade.

 

Tejada making like his remarks were misconstrued makes him seem like a better employee, and may make more teams interested in him as well.

 

That doesn't make sense to me. If a team inquired about Tejada and found he was still available, wouldn't they know that his remarks were just a ploy?

 

Its about the desperation of the club that goes to the value you can expect in return. It has a very real effect on negotiations.

 

But how is another team going to value Tejada more when they know that his comments were just for show?

Some guys will come out and trash the organization and try to force a trade. Other teams may wonder what will the guy say if he sours on the new team. Other guys will be act a little classier, which tells other would-be suiters that if he sours on them too, he won't trash them in the media and create alot of bad PR, so he's a safer bet, PR-wise, to make a move for. Teams definitely consider the PR impact of their acquisitions.