Cards Trade King for Larry Bigbie, Aaron Miles

[PieOnMyHands]

Interesting. King fell off big time at the end of the season, and he demanded a trade.

 

Fills some holes. Haven't really looked at the numbers, but that seems like a decent trade...King was making $2.5 million, I believe.

[TrueBlueCubFan]

Interesting. King fell off big time at the end of the season, and he demanded a trade.

 

Fills some holes. Haven't really looked at the numbers, but that seems like a decent trade...King was making $2.5 million, I believe.

 

Link?

Nice move if true!

[PieOnMyHands]

http://colorado.rockies.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051207&content_id=1278782&vkey=news_col&fext=.jsp&c_id=col

[PieOnMyHands]

The above link doesn't really say much... just that they did acquire King:

 

DALLAS (AP) — Left-hander Ray King was traded from St. Louis to Colorado on Wednesday night for outfielder Larry Bigbie and infielder Aaron Miles.

King was 4-4 with a 3.38 ERA in 77 relief appearances for the Cardinals, but didn’t make an appearance in either of the team’s playoffs series this year.

“We’re very excited to add a left-handed pitcher of Ray’s caliber to our bullpen,” Rockies general manager Dan O’Dowd said. “He brings a veteran presence to the later innings of a game, and his track record speaks for itself.”

In 447 career games for the Chicago Cubs, Milwaukee, Atlanta and St. Louis, King is 18-18 with a 3.12 ERA. In 12 career appearances at Coors Field, opposing hitters have gone just 4-for-27 (.148) against him and he has allowed one run in 8 1-3 innings. He turns 32 next month.

Bigbie was traded from Baltimore to Colorado for outfielder Eric Byrnes on July 29. He hit a combined .239 with five homers and 23 RBIs for the Rockies and Orioles.

Miles, who started 69 games at second base for the Rockies, batted .281 with two home runs and 28 RBIs in 99 games last season.

 

Bigbie and Miles are both making less than half a million. Not a bad move, if you ask me.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

Ahhhh, I liked making fun of Burger King.

[XZero771679666304]

Ray King - R - Cardinals

 

 

According to The Associated Press, the Rockies have acquired LHP Ray King from the Cardinals for OF Larry Bigbie and 2B Aaron Miles.

Hmmm. Good trade for Colorado, we suppose. Miles is worthless -- another Bo Hart -- so this is basically a one-for-one, and the Rockies weren't interested in using Bigbie. King could reemerge as one of the game's top lefty specialists, though it will be harder in Coors, and if it happens, he'll be great trade bait in June or July. Bigbie could be a regular or a fourth outfielder for the Cardinals, depending on what happens the rest of the winter. Dec. 8 - 1:01 am et

[Andy]

Great. Not only does that cross another bench guy I wanted off the list, but the Cards got WAY too much value for Burger King.

[cubbyvirus00]

I'm just happy they're putting Bigbie in a power outfield spot. Hes below average in my opinion.

 

 

Goodbye Burger King.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Miles and Bigbie have been terrible. Maybe they'll get smacked with the magic BABIP stick that Nunez got last year.

[jjgman21]

Interesting. King fell off big time at the end of the season, and he demanded a trade.

 

Fills some holes. Haven't really looked at the numbers, but that seems like a decent trade...King was making $2.5 million, I believe.

 

Link?

Nice move if true!

 

yes, for the Cubs. a solid lefty specialist for a couple of guys who probably don't belong in the major leagues.

 

why did King demand a trade?

[PieOnMyHands]

Interesting. King fell off big time at the end of the season, and he demanded a trade.

 

Fills some holes. Haven't really looked at the numbers, but that seems like a decent trade...King was making $2.5 million, I believe.

 

Link?

Nice move if true!

 

yes, for the Cubs. a solid lefty specialist for a couple of guys who probably don't belong in the major leagues.

 

why did King demand a trade?

 

He didn't get to throw a single pitch in the offseason. His dad died late in the regular season... I don't know if that kind of put Tony in a position to hesitate to use him or what. King also said Tony warmed him up a couple times but didn't call him out, and that made him mad.

 

After we lost the NLCS, he said something like, "I'll have to talk to my agent about discussing a trade."

 

Despite his good numbers, him and Tavarez really struggled late in the season... He allowed a lot of inherited runners to score.

[cjbucks]

Man I remember the first time Santo saw King last year ( at least I think it was the first time - who knows with Ronnie ) but he went on and on about how fat King had gotten. Even made some donut jokes - I believe he was on with Mazur at the time, I don't think Pat would have let it go as far as Andy did :lol:

[PieOnMyHands]

BAA

July: .333

August: .267

September: .467

[Andy]

Man I remember the first time Santo saw King last year ( at least I think it was the first time - who knows with Ronnie ) but he went on and on about how fat King had gotten. Even made some donut jokes - I believe he was on with Mazur at the time, I don't think Pat would have let it go as far as Andy did :lol:

Ron Santo is quite possibly my favorite person ever. :lol:

[PieOnMyHands]

Bigbie the last three years versus righties:

 

AVG OBP SLG OPS

.286 .344 .438 .782

 

 

That's surprisingly decent... do I smell a platoon?

[Ram1380]

BAA

July: .333

August: .267

September: .467

 

 

 

 

Thats Fugly.

[cubbyvirus00]

Miles slugged .292 on the road last year. Jeff Suppan slugged .293.

 

Of course Miles DID get on base at a .247 clip, which schools Suppan's .246 OBP.

 

That trade made the Cards worse if anything. No more left handed specialist.

[oldschool]

I really have no idea what the Cards are doing, but when this is all we have to talk about after the winter meetings, after going in needing a OF or 2, 2b, SP, 2 right handed relievers, and now a lefty. Lets just say,frustrated.

[NorthsideAvenger]

Miles slugged .292 on the road last year. Jeff Suppan slugged .293.

 

Of course Miles DID get on base at a .247 clip, which schools Suppan's .246 OBP.

 

That trade made the Cards worse if anything. No more left handed specialist.

 

Hey, if the Cards are feeling "LEFT OUT" (pun intended), I think the Cubs have a spare crappy lefty that they could call "specialist." I think Hendry would be persuaded to move Bartosh, Koronka, Rohlicek (if not selected in the Rule 5/V draft), heck, I would throw-in (oh what a....)RUSCH.....

[indifferent]

Miles slugged .292 on the road last year. Jeff Suppan slugged .293.

 

Of course Miles DID get on base at a .247 clip, which schools Suppan's .246 OBP.

 

That trade made the Cards worse if anything. No more left handed specialist.

 

Hey, if the Cards are feeling "LEFT OUT" (pun intended), I think the Cubs have a spare crappy lefty that they could call "specialist." I think Hendry would be persuaded to move Bartosh, Koronka, Rohlicek (if not selected in the Rule 5/V draft), heck, I would throw-in (oh what a....)RUSCH.....

 

Flores against left handed batters in 05 (for $300,000 salary) was .250BAA, .333 OBP, .583 OPS. Tyler Johnson to be the other left handed pitcher out of the pen; King was expendable. Salary dump/depth move by the Cards.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Just a question, but who exactly is now left in that Cardinals pen?

[CubbieRich]

They have a new stadium(although fewer seats), higher ticket prices, bought partial ownership of their new radio flagship station and sold remnants of the old stadium. Jocketty's hands are tied. Larussa is disappointed because he wanted a payroll increase of $10-15 million over 2005 and won't get it. This sounds to me like the owners are going to maximize their profits for a few years and then sell the team.

 

On the bright side for us Cubs fans, So Taguchi is their LF and Aaron Miles is small like Eckstein and a AAAA player at best.

[gflore34]

They have a new stadium(although fewer seats), higher ticket prices, bought partial ownership of their new radio flagship station and sold remnants of the old stadium. Jocketty's hands are tied. Larussa is disappointed because he wanted a payroll increase of $10-15 million over 2005 and won't get it. This sounds to me like the owners are going to maximize their profits for a few years and then sell the team.

 

On the bright side for us Cubs fans, So Taguchi is their LF and Aaron Miles is small like Eckstein and a AAAA player at best.

 

That may be true but, have you forgotten the Cardinals Midas Touch? They could put a cardboard cutout out there and it would get on base a .370 clip while slugging .500+ I'm preparing for an OBP of .380+ out of Miles and SLP of .750+ from Taguchi next year.

[Jehrico]

They have a new stadium(although fewer seats), higher ticket prices, bought partial ownership of their new radio flagship station and sold remnants of the old stadium. Jocketty's hands are tied. Larussa is disappointed because he wanted a payroll increase of $10-15 million over 2005 and won't get it. This sounds to me like the owners are going to maximize their profits for a few years and then sell the team.

 

On the bright side for us Cubs fans, So Taguchi is their LF and Aaron Miles is small like Eckstein and a AAAA player at best.

 

That may be true but, have you forgotten the Cardinals Midas Touch? They could put a cardboard cutout out there and it would get on base a .370 clip while slugging .500+ I'm preparing for an OBP of .380+ out of Miles and SLP of .750+ from Taguchi next year.

 

Don't forget that Cardboard Cutout would probably win the gold glove in CF for them.

[Bote McBoteface]

I guess this goes as a warning to all of St. Louis's pitchers.

 

"Don't demand a trade, or we'll trade you to Colorado!"