Greenberg update

[JeffH]

Rich, you're misinterpreting that link.

 

There's no such thing as the "40-man active roster".

 

The asterisks that show that a certain player is not on the active roster are a carryover from the regular season. They indicate which guys on the 40-man are not on the 25-man.

[TrueBlueCubFan]

Isn't it true that 40-man rosters don't have to be finalized until the day before the Rule 5 draft? Maybe there is some flex in the interim that ML baseball doesn't strictly enforce.

 

Does anyone have the answer to this ? It would definately clear up the descrepancy of the Cubs' 40 man roster.

[CubbieRich]

Eyre and Howry are on the 40 man active roster. Aardsma is not at this point.

 

Please provide your supporting documentation for the bolded part of your statement.

 

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/team/roster_40man.jsp?c_id=chc

 

Based on that link, Aardsma is on the 40-man.

 

The asterik by Aardsma's name refers to a statement below that he is not on the 40 man active roster.

[JD42K]

I'm so glad that we can get constant updates on a guy that probably won't ever be a significant part of ANY major league team. He might make a couple of AAA all-star teams, but I doubt that, even. BUT, keep the updates coming, guys. I'm on the edge of my seat.

[JD42K]

I'm so glad that we can get constant updates on a guy that probably won't ever be a significant part of ANY major league team. He might make a couple of AAA all-star teams, but I doubt that, even. BUT, keep the updates coming, guys. I'm on the edge of my seat.

[Brian]

Eyre and Howry are on the 40 man active roster. Aardsma is not at this point.

 

Please provide your supporting documentation for the bolded part of your statement.

 

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/team/roster_40man.jsp?c_id=chc

 

Based on that link, Aardsma is on the 40-man.

 

The asterik by Aardsma's name refers to a statement below that he is not on the 40 man active roster.

 

The asterik means he's not on the active 25 man roster.

[JeffH]

Rich, you're misinterpreting that link.

 

There's no such thing as the "40-man active roster".

 

The asterisks that show that a certain player is not on the active roster are a carryover from the regular season. They indicate which guys on the 40-man are not on the 25-man.

 

Rich, look above.

[goonys evil twin]

The asterik by Aardsma's name refers to a statement below that he is not on the 40 man active roster.

 

No, it means he was not on the active 25 man roster.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Eyre and Howry are on the 40 man active roster. Aardsma is not at this point.

 

Please provide your supporting documentation for the bolded part of your statement.

 

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/team/roster_40man.jsp?c_id=chc

 

Based on that link, Aardsma is on the 40-man.

 

The asterik by Aardsma's name refers to a statement below that he is not on the 40 man active roster.

 

By your interpretation, then Marmol, Marshall, Ryu, Nolassco, Dopirak, and Pie aren't on the 40-man either since they all have astericks beside their names as well. I guess we're losing Pie in the Rule five draft.

[JeffH]

Guys, I think we've made our point.

 

Sorry if it seems like we're picking on you, Rich.

 

The 40-man roster currently stands at 40.

 

Wood is on. Moore is on. Neither Eyre nor Howry are on.

[SouthSideRyan]

So you're trying to argue that Angel Guzman has been outrighted and somehow not claimed?

[Neuby]

Is it wrong that I don't think Adam Greenberg will never be more than a fringe MLB player? I don't understand why everyone is so high on him. He's a really fast guy who might be a decent hitter. I'm thinking he's the caucasion answer for Tom Goodwin.

 

He does a lot of the little things right and the way Hendry seems to overpay for bench help Greenberg could be a nice cheap roster filler for the Cubs.

[Blueheart05]

Guys, I think we've made our point.

 

Sorry if it seems like we're picking on you, Rich.

 

The 40-man roster currently stands at 40.

 

Wood is on. Moore is on. Neither Eyre nor Howry are on.

 

Well, I'm joining in this one late but both Eyre and Howry are listed on the current 40 man roster as listed on Cubs.com:

 

40-Man Roster

 

Pitchers B/T Ht Wt DOB

* -- David Aardsma R/R 6-5 200 12/27/81

46 Ryan Dempster R/R 6-2 215 05/03/77

47 Scott Eyre L/L 6-1 215 05/30/72

* 67 Angel Guzman R/R 6-3 190 12/14/81

53 Rich Hill L/L 6-5 205 03/11/80

62 Bob Howry L/R 6-5 220 08/04/73

49 John Koronka L/L 6-1 180 07/03/80

31 Greg Maddux R/R 6-0 180 04/14/66

-- Carlos Marmol R/R 6-2 180 09/14/82

-- Sean Marshall L/L 6-6 195 08/30/82

52 Sergio Mitre R/R 6-4 210 02/16/81

-- Ricky Nolasco R/R 6-2 220 12/13/82

44 Roberto Novoa R/R 6-5 200 08/15/79

45 Will Ohman L/L 6-2 195 08/13/77

* 54 Renyel Pinto L/L 6-4 195 07/08/82

22 Mark Prior R/R 6-5 230 09/07/80

33 Glendon Rusch L/L 6-1 225 11/07/74

-- Jae-kuk Ryu R/R 6-3 220 05/30/83

37 Jermaine Van Buren R/R 6-1 220 07/02/80

40 Todd Wellemeyer R/R 6-3 205 08/30/78

32 Jerome Williams R/R 6-3 245 12/04/81

48 Scott Williamson R/R 6-0 185 02/17/76

34 Kerry Wood R/R 6-5 225 06/16/77

43 Michael Wuertz R/R 6-3 205 12/15/78

38 Carlos Zambrano S/R 6-5 255 06/01/81

Catchers B/T Ht Wt DOB

8 Michael Barrett R/R 6-3 210 10/22/76

24 Henry Blanco R/R 5-11 220 08/29/71

-- Jose Reyes S/R 5-11 180 02/26/84

58 Geovany Soto R/R 6-1 230 01/20/83

Infielders B/T Ht Wt DOB

11 Ronny Cedeno R/R 6-0 180 02/02/83

-- Brian Dopirak R/R 6-4 235 12/20/83

15 Jerry Hairston R/R 5-10 185 05/29/76

25 Derrek Lee R/R 6-5 245 09/06/75

1 Jose Macias S/R 5-8 190 01/25/72

13 Neifi Perez S/R 6-0 195 06/02/73

16 Aramis Ramirez R/R 6-1 215 06/25/78

55 Ryan Theriot R/R 5-11 175 12/07/79

7 Todd Walker L/R 6-0 185 05/25/73

Outfielders B/T Ht Wt DOB

19 Matt Murton R/R 6-1 215 10/03/81

20 Corey Patterson L/R 5-9 180 08/13/79

-- Felix Pie L/L 6-2 175 02/08/85

 

* Not on Active Roster

[Hosak8]

I'm also counting 41 players on the 40 man roster.

[CubbieRich]

By your interpretation, then Marmol, Marshall, Ryu, Nolassco, Dopirak, and Pie aren't on the 40-man either since they all have astericks beside their names as well. I guess we're losing Pie in the Rule five draft.

 

There's a difference between a dash '-' and an asterick '*'. The above are on the 40 man. Your punishment is to buy me some barbecued shrimp from Manali's in N.O. on my next trip.

[CubbieRich]

Guys, I think we've made our point.

 

Sorry if it seems like we're picking on you, Rich.

 

The 40-man roster currently stands at 40.

 

Wood is on. Moore is on. Neither Eyre nor Howry are on.

 

Looks like MLB and the Cubs say Eyre and Howry are on and Moore is not. And for the Cubs to add Mabry, someone must be moved from the 40 man. My original statement remains 100% iron clad.

 

As to Greenburg, I feel he will be a journeyman 4th or 5th OF at best. He is no Jimmy Wynn, he's not even a Freddie Patek or David Eckstein. Smaller players need to do one thing really well-get on base and steal, outstanding fielder or have unusual power. He has none of them.

[JeffH]

My original statement remains 100% iron clad.

 

You're dead wrong.

[Bull]

Guys, I think we've made our point.

 

Sorry if it seems like we're picking on you, Rich.

 

The 40-man roster currently stands at 40.

 

Wood is on. Moore is on. Neither Eyre nor Howry are on.

 

Looks like MLB and the Cubs say Eyre and Howry are on and Moore is not. And for the Cubs to add Mabry, someone must be moved from the 40 man. My original statement remains 100% iron clad.

 

As to Greenburg, I feel he will be a journeyman 4th or 5th OF at best. He is no Jimmy Wynn, he's not even a Freddie Patek or David Eckstein. Smaller players need to do one thing really well-get on base and steal, outstanding fielder or have unusual power. He has none of them.

 

don't confuse cubs.com with the cubs front office. They've put Howry and Eyre on that list because they are the hot signings and either have been added or certainly will be. They have no more idea what the corresponding roster mover were/are/shall be than you or I.

 

and the -- just means they don't have a major league number.

[CubbieRich]

Guys, I think we've made our point.

 

Sorry if it seems like we're picking on you, Rich.

 

The 40-man roster currently stands at 40.

 

Wood is on. Moore is on. Neither Eyre nor Howry are on.

 

Looks like MLB and the Cubs say Eyre and Howry are on and Moore is not. And for the Cubs to add Mabry, someone must be moved from the 40 man. My original statement remains 100% iron clad.

 

As to Greenburg, I feel he will be a journeyman 4th or 5th OF at best. He is no Jimmy Wynn, he's not even a Freddie Patek or David Eckstein. Smaller players need to do one thing really well-get on base and steal, outstanding fielder or have unusual power. He has none of them.

 

don't confuse cubs.com with the cubs front office. They've put Howry and Eyre on that list because they are the hot signings and either have been added or certainly will be. They have no more idea what the corresponding roster mover were/are/shall be than you or I.

 

and the -- just means they don't have a major league number.

 

That's okay, you have company. Just reporting the news, boys.

[Bull]

Guys, I think we've made our point.

 

Sorry if it seems like we're picking on you, Rich.

 

The 40-man roster currently stands at 40.

 

Wood is on. Moore is on. Neither Eyre nor Howry are on.

 

Looks like MLB and the Cubs say Eyre and Howry are on and Moore is not. And for the Cubs to add Mabry, someone must be moved from the 40 man. My original statement remains 100% iron clad.

 

As to Greenburg, I feel he will be a journeyman 4th or 5th OF at best. He is no Jimmy Wynn, he's not even a Freddie Patek or David Eckstein. Smaller players need to do one thing really well-get on base and steal, outstanding fielder or have unusual power. He has none of them.

 

don't confuse cubs.com with the cubs front office. They've put Howry and Eyre on that list because they are the hot signings and either have been added or certainly will be. They have no more idea what the corresponding roster mover were/are/shall be than you or I.

 

and the -- just means they don't have a major league number.

 

That's okay, you have company. Just reporting the news, boys.

 

Am I missing something?

[CuseCubFan69]

Does anyone know what happened to Greenburg yet?

[Diffusion]

Greenberg is still in the organisation, I can tell you that much.

 

So he can only have successfully cleared outright waivers. If he was claimed, he'd be gone by now, and we all know that he wasn't traded.

[CuseCubFan69]

Greenberg is still in the organisation, I can tell you that much.

 

So he can only have successfully cleared outright waivers. If he was claimed, he'd be gone by now, and we all know that he wasn't traded.

 

Thanks Diffusion. Since he cleared waivers he is still the Cubs property correct?

[JeffH]

Greenberg is still in the organisation, I can tell you that much.

 

So he can only have successfully cleared outright waivers. If he was claimed, he'd be gone by now, and we all know that he wasn't traded.

 

How do you know that?

[Jehrico]

I think that means he's eligible to be picked up in the rule 5 draft though...

 

Who wouldn't want a kid with a career OBP in the majors higher than Barry Bonds? Heck, he's about twice as high as bonds. :D

Edited December 9, 2005 by Jehrico