Brad Wilkerson vs. Adam Dunn

[mg420]

they both strike out too much, which means they suck and wouldn't help us achieve a "balanced" lineup. plus, dunn's terrible in the field, which means he sucks. did i mention that they strike out too much, which menas that they suck?

 

wilkerson strikes out alot but he also walks alot 106 bb/152 k's in 04.

 

Sarcasm is fun. Sulley loves walks so much his first born's name is going to be B.B.

 

guess i missed the sarcasm. sometimes its hard to tell around here who is being serious & who is being sarcastic.

 

 

 

dude, come on. i was laying it on pretty thick.

 

i know but i'm not that bright.

[goonys evil twin]

Alright folks, I got a fun question for all of you.

 

Which would you rather have, Dunn or Wilkerson? If neither, explain why.

 

Let me see......I'd take Wilkerson.

 

Dunn power is unbelieveable, no doubt, but when I see Wilkerson, I see a player who can help a team win in many different areas. Power, speed, hitting, defensively, or flat hussling, he helps a team in so many areas. Whereas Dunn, well, if he can't hit the homerun, then he is pretty useless ballplayer. I like Wilkerson versatility over Dunn's power.

 

This makes very little sense to me. Wilkerson is somewhat similar to Dunn in the avg area, but he lags in the patience department and it nowhere near in SLG. His speed is suspect considering he's been thrown out more times than he's been successful stealing this year. Dunn blows Wilkerson out of the water offensively, it's not even a debate. Wilkerson is obviously the better defender, but not enough to take away from Dunn's enormous lead in productivity.

[brinoch]

Why not both of them? I'd love to have Wilkerson and Dunn on the Cubs, and I refuse to choose between them!! (Though if forced, I'd pick Dunn.)

[Transmogrified Tiger]

they both strike out too much, which means they suck and wouldn't help us achieve a "balanced" lineup. plus, dunn's terrible in the field, which means he sucks. did i mention that they strike out too much, which menas that they suck?

 

wilkerson strikes out alot but he also walks alot 106 bb/152 k's in 04.

 

Sarcasm is fun. Sulley loves walks so much his first born's name is going to be B.B.

That was lame. :P

 

You're just mad that I posted it first.

[USSoccer]

In realistic terms, I'd go with Wilkerson, since Bowden is dumb, and thus the cost of aquiring Wilkerson would be much less. Also, you aren't trading within the division, and I'm wary of doing so, unless you aren't giving anything of value, which wouldn't be the case wth Dunn.

 

Also, In terms of the prospects that we have that are trading chips, I would doubt Guzman is worth much until he actually makes it through a whole year injury free.

[imb]

Win Shares

 

Dunn-26 total 24.3 hitting/1.9 fielding

Wilkerson-21 total 17.2 hitting/4.0 fielding

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Win Shares

 

Dunn-26 total 24.3 hitting/1.9 fielding

Wilkerson-21 total 17.2 hitting/4.0 fielding

 

I'm surprised it's that close. Here's last year's:

 

Dunn- 32 total 30.3 hitting/1.5 fielding

Wilkerson- 22 total 18.9 hitting/3.4 fielding

[BigbadB]

My pick depends on how the rest of the team sorts out. If we sign Giles early, then I'd rather have Wilkerson. If we don't get a good lefty power bat, then I want Dunn. Also, it will be hard to afford to do anything else if you sign Giles and trade for Dunn. It also limits who can hit at the top of the order for all the big bats.

 

If you got Giles, Dunn AND Wilkerson, this team wouldn't have a very good outfield defense and you'd have essentially no speed at all at the top of the order, but you sure would have an incredible increase in OBP and OPS on offense:

 

Wilkerson

Walker

Giles

Lee

Dunn

Aramis

Nomar

Barrett

 

Everyone all the way down to Nomar has OBP's of .360+, and a few guys with 1.000+ OPS. Nomar's is respectable enough given his AVG. and OPS for a shortstop. I like that line up. You just need an idiot proof bench and the offense is all set. It might be the worst defensive team to ever play the game, though.

 

I'll take it! Email this to Hendry!

[Tim]

My pick depends on how the rest of the team sorts out. If we sign Giles early, then I'd rather have Wilkerson. If we don't get a good lefty power bat, then I want Dunn. Also, it will be hard to afford to do anything else if you sign Giles and trade for Dunn. It also limits who can hit at the top of the order for all the big bats.

 

If you got Giles, Dunn AND Wilkerson, this team wouldn't have a very good outfield defense and you'd have essentially no speed at all at the top of the order, but you sure would have an incredible increase in OBP and OPS on offense:

 

Wilkerson

Walker

Giles

Lee

Dunn

Aramis

Nomar

Barrett

 

Everyone all the way down to Nomar has OBP's of .360+, and a few guys with 1.000+ OPS. Nomar's is respectable enough given his AVG. and OPS for a shortstop. I like that line up. You just need an idiot proof bench and the offense is all set. It might be the worst defensive team to ever play the game, though.

 

I'll take it! Email this to Hendry!

If the Cubs had Nomar, Giles, Lee, Dunn, Ramirez, Walker, Barrett as 2-8 in the order, I could hit leadoff and they'd still score a ton of runs.

[burnt out cubbie fan]

I would go with Dunn as well. He is a better player right now and his ceiling is much higher than that of Wilkerson. He is still only 24-25 years old and could really put up some huge numbers in the future. Say what you will about his strikeouts or his inability to hit a sac fly, I will take his power and patience at his age any day of the week. The only thing that would make me take Wilkerson is the fact that he can play right and Dunn really should stick to left field. Although, with Dunn's production I would be fine with having Murton in right... Edited September 20, 2005 by burnt out cubbie fan

[Transmogrified Tiger]

If the Cubs had Nomar, Giles, Lee, Dunn, Ramirez, Walker, Barrett as 2-8 in the order, I could hit leadoff and they'd still score a ton of runs.

 

As the elder statesman of that group, it would ensure that you would hit leadoff too.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I'd take Dunn over Wilkerson in a heartbeat and would be happy with either on the Cubs next season, despite Wilkerson's poor 2005 showing (he has been playing hurt all year in a pitcher-friendly home stadium).

 

If the Cubs had Nomar, Giles, Lee, Dunn, Ramirez, Walker, Barrett as 2-8 in the order, I could hit leadoff and they'd still score a ton of runs.

 

As the elder statesman of that group, it would ensure that you would hit leadoff too.

 

But I hit leadoff in HS. And I'm really fast.

[HoopsCubs]

Alright folks, I got a fun question for all of you.

 

Which would you rather have, Dunn or Wilkerson? If neither, explain why.

 

Dunn.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I could hit leadoff .

I COULDNT ALLOW THIS

[burnt out cubbie fan]

I'd take Dunn over Wilkerson in a heartbeat and would be happy with either on the Cubs next season, despite Wilkerson's poor 2005 showing (he has been playing hurt all year in a pitcher-friendly home stadium).

 

If the Cubs had Nomar, Giles, Lee, Dunn, Ramirez, Walker, Barrett as 2-8 in the order, I could hit leadoff and they'd still score a ton of runs.

 

As the elder statesman of that group, it would ensure that you would hit leadoff too.

 

But I hit leadoff in HS. And I'm really fast.

Plus Nolasco walked and struck you out. That's a .500 OBP.

 

Actually, forget about Dunn, we should just sign you.

Edited September 20, 2005 by burnt out cubbie fan

[AAApittsburgh]

But I hit leadoff in HS. And I'm really fast.

If you can put up your softball numbers, you've got the job.

[wekse]

DUNN

[jtownie]

 

If you got Giles, Dunn AND Wilkerson, this team wouldn't have a very good outfield defense and you'd have essentially no speed at all at the top of the order, but you sure would have an incredible increase in OBP and OPS on offense:

 

 

Is an OF defense of Giles, Dunn Wilkerson that much worse than Murton, Hairston and Burnitz?

[VVMattVV]

Say Yes to Dunn

 

(and No to Navin)

[ManCrushOnNomar]

My pick depends on how the rest of the team sorts out. If we sign Giles early, then I'd rather have Wilkerson. If we don't get a good lefty power bat, then I want Dunn. Also, it will be hard to afford to do anything else if you sign Giles and trade for Dunn. It also limits who can hit at the top of the order for all the big bats.

 

If you got Giles, Dunn AND Wilkerson, this team wouldn't have a very good outfield defense and you'd have essentially no speed at all at the top of the order, but you sure would have an incredible increase in OBP and OPS on offense:

 

Wilkerson

Walker

Giles

Lee

Dunn

Aramis

Nomar

Barrett

 

Everyone all the way down to Nomar has OBP's of .360+, and a few guys with 1.000+ OPS. Nomar's is respectable enough given his AVG. and OPS for a shortstop. I like that line up. You just need an idiot proof bench and the offense is all set. It might be the worst defensive team to ever play the game, though.

 

I'll take it! Email this to Hendry!

Dusty would never have 1-3 all lefties. Yes I know that lineup makes the most sense, but cmon dude, man, you gotta change it up RLRL dude!

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Say Yes to Dunn

 

(and No to Navin)

 

You're just jealous.

[burnt out cubbie fan]

Say Yes to Dunn

 

(and No to Navin)

 

You're just jealous.

Of the fact that Nolasco struck you out? That's hardly something to be proud of.

[mfische5]

My pick depends on how the rest of the team sorts out. If we sign Giles early, then I'd rather have Wilkerson. If we don't get a good lefty power bat, then I want Dunn. Also, it will be hard to afford to do anything else if you sign Giles and trade for Dunn. It also limits who can hit at the top of the order for all the big bats.

 

If you got Giles, Dunn AND Wilkerson, this team wouldn't have a very good outfield defense and you'd have essentially no speed at all at the top of the order, but you sure would have an incredible increase in OBP and OPS on offense:

 

Wilkerson

Walker

Giles

Lee

Dunn

Aramis

Nomar

Barrett

 

Everyone all the way down to Nomar has OBP's of .360+, and a few guys with 1.000+ OPS. Nomar's is respectable enough given his AVG. and OPS for a shortstop. I like that line up. You just need an idiot proof bench and the offense is all set. It might be the worst defensive team to ever play the game, though.

 

I'll take it! Email this to Hendry!

 

Worst defensive team ever? Well if that is the goal then we can trade wilkerson and whoever the heck the red sox want and put Manny on the team. Now that is a bad defensive team....

 

Also, does Dunn make that much that after signing for Giles (10-11 mil) and trading for Wilkerson (4 Mil i think) that we are out of flexibility financially? I was hoping that would leave us some money left over for atleast one more big signing since the only real signing (and hence big expensive deal) would be Giles (unless i am wrong and Dunn makes over 4 mill).

[Transmogrified Tiger]

My pick depends on how the rest of the team sorts out. If we sign Giles early, then I'd rather have Wilkerson. If we don't get a good lefty power bat, then I want Dunn. Also, it will be hard to afford to do anything else if you sign Giles and trade for Dunn. It also limits who can hit at the top of the order for all the big bats.

 

If you got Giles, Dunn AND Wilkerson, this team wouldn't have a very good outfield defense and you'd have essentially no speed at all at the top of the order, but you sure would have an incredible increase in OBP and OPS on offense:

 

Wilkerson

Walker

Giles

Lee

Dunn

Aramis

Nomar

Barrett

 

Everyone all the way down to Nomar has OBP's of .360+, and a few guys with 1.000+ OPS. Nomar's is respectable enough given his AVG. and OPS for a shortstop. I like that line up. You just need an idiot proof bench and the offense is all set. It might be the worst defensive team to ever play the game, though.

 

I'll take it! Email this to Hendry!

 

Worst defensive team ever? Well if that is the goal then we can trade wilkerson and whoever the heck the red sox want and put Manny on the team. Now that is a bad defensive team....

 

Also, does Dunn make that much that after signing for Giles (10-11 mil) and trading for Wilkerson (4 Mil i think) that we are out of flexibility financially? I was hoping that would leave us some money left over for atleast one more big signing since the only real signing (and hence big expensive deal) would be Giles (unless i am wrong and Dunn makes over 4 mill).

 

I don't think that team would be that bad defensively. Dunn is sub par for sure, but Giles and Wilkerson are right about average for RF and CF defensively. The infield is the same as we were banking on this season.

[RynoRules]

I'd be okay w/ Wilk if we had a corner OF like Dunn.

 

That said, I think Wilk is their Kotsay and he ain't going aywhere.