D-Back Dilemma

[HoopsCubs]

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/diamondbacks/articles/0913tracy0913.html

 

It's a registered site, but I think there are ways to get to the link.

 

"There is such a logjam, the Diamondbacks may consider a trade, perhaps involving Quentin or, to a lesser extent, Gonzalez or Glaus. And yes, it may come down to Tracy, who is arguably the best hitter in the entire organization."

 

I know Tim and others are very bullish on Carlos Quentin's upside, so this article caught my eye. I know others here like Chad Tracy very much too.

 

If I'm interpreting correctly, basically, the D-Backs have Troy Glaus, Shawn Green, Luis Gonzalez, Tracy, Tony Clark (just signed 2 year extension) and Quentin to play 5 positions - LF, CF, RF, 1B and 3B. 6 guys, 5 positions - one of them looks like he'll be dealt.

 

Quentin to the Cubs? Please remind me what it would take.

 

 

Hoops

[imb]

A lot. Quentin is better than any two prospects in our minors.

[CuseCubFan69]

If Baker is there I see the Cubs going after Gonzalez....if not it would be nice to see the Cubs get a player like Quentin. Quentin, Murton and Pie in the OF in 2007...that would be nice.

[JC]

Shouldn't Connor Jackson also be in that mix?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I could really see Luis Gonzalez being the player the Cubs go after. He wouldn't be a bad acquistion if the price in prospects is cheap. On the other hand, I'd love to get either Quentin or Jackson.

[Mark Priors Calves]

I understand Tony Clark had a very good season this year but why on earth did he get signed to a 2 year extension?

[TheDude]

Doesn't logic mandate the Diamondbacks, an organization with questionable finances already, deal one of the elder, higher payroll guys first?

 

I can't see Quentin or Tracy going anywhere - unless it is a needs swap of top prospects that ends in a wash financially.

[CuseCubFan69]

This is why I thought Hendry had a surplus of young pitching...to make a trade to a team like this.

[BigbadB]

Are the D'Backs still sending Clayton out there everyday instead of Santos?

[NorthsideAvenger]

A lot. Quentin is better than any two prospects in our minors.

 

Maybe in the short term, but in the long-term, both Felix Pie and Ryan Harvey---IMO---will be better then Quentin. Conor Jackson on the other hand.....

[NorthsideAvenger]

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/diamondbacks/articles/0913tracy0913.html

 

It's a registered site, but I think there are ways to get to the link.

 

"There is such a logjam, the Diamondbacks may consider a trade, perhaps involving Quentin or, to a lesser extent, Gonzalez or Glaus. And yes, it may come down to Tracy, who is arguably the best hitter in the entire organization."

 

I know Tim and others are very bullish on Carlos Quentin's upside, so this article caught my eye. I know others here like Chad Tracy very much too.

 

If I'm interpreting correctly, basically, the D-Backs have Troy Glaus, Shawn Green, Luis Gonzalez, Tracy, Tony Clark (just signed 2 year extension) and Quentin to play 5 positions - LF, CF, RF, 1B and 3B. 6 guys, 5 positions - one of them looks like he'll be dealt.

 

Quentin to the Cubs? Please remind me what it would take.

 

 

Hoops

 

Personally, I think you can rule out Jackson, Quentin and Tracy as trade potentials (seeing as all three would command atleast Felix Pie and maybe Sean Marhsall or a Sean Gallagher and are still reasonably cheap). So that lead me to believe that it will be Glaus (remember Tracy came up a third baseman, and played him at 1st the OF, to keep his bat in the lineup) or Luis Gonzalez. Seeing as the Cubs already have 1st and 3rd locked up, I guess the Cubs COULD be looking at bring the former Cub Luis Gonzalez back to Chicago.

[imb]

A lot. Quentin is better than any two prospects in our minors.

 

Maybe in the short term, but in the long-term, both Felix Pie and Ryan Harvey---IMO---will be better then Quentin. Conor Jackson on the other hand.....

 

Quentin hit .300/.420/.550 in AAA, Neither Pie or Harvey have approached those numbers at any level.

 

Quentin and Jackson are basically the same player. Same age, but Quentin plays OF while Jackson is a first baseman. Quentin also has more HR power, at least for now.

[treebird]

A lot. Quentin is better than any two prospects in our minors.

 

Maybe in the short term, but in the long-term, both Felix Pie and Ryan Harvey---IMO---will be better then Quentin. Conor Jackson on the other hand.....

 

Quentin hit .300/.420/.550 in AAA, Neither Pie or Harvey have approached those numbers at any level.

 

Quentin and Jackson are basically the same player. Same age, but Quentin plays OF while Jackson is a first baseman. Quentin also has more HR power, at least for now.

 

harvey and pie are going to have to figure out how to hit .370 if they ever want to match that obp.

[1908]

A lot. Quentin is better than any two prospects in our minors.

 

Maybe in the short term, but in the long-term, both Felix Pie and Ryan Harvey---IMO---will be better then Quentin. Conor Jackson on the other hand.....

 

Quentin hit .300/.420/.550 in AAA, Neither Pie or Harvey have approached those numbers at any level.

In fairness to Pie, Quentin is two and a half years older than Felix. Pie hit .304/.349/.554 as a 20-year-old in AA. Quentin hit 303./.398/.539 as a 20-year-old at Stanford.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

A lot. Quentin is better than any two prospects in our minors.

 

Maybe in the short term, but in the long-term, both Felix Pie and Ryan Harvey---IMO---will be better then Quentin. Conor Jackson on the other hand.....

 

Quentin hit .300/.420/.550 in AAA, Neither Pie or Harvey have approached those numbers at any level.

In fairness to Pie, Quentin is two and a half years older than Felix. Pie hit .304/.349/.554 as a 20-year-old in AA. Quentin hit 303./.398/.539 as a 20-year-old at Stanford.

 

Pie does have the advantage in age, but he's never going to walk enough to even touch Quentin's OBP.

[1908]

A lot. Quentin is better than any two prospects in our minors.

 

Maybe in the short term, but in the long-term, both Felix Pie and Ryan Harvey---IMO---will be better then Quentin. Conor Jackson on the other hand.....

 

Quentin hit .300/.420/.550 in AAA, Neither Pie or Harvey have approached those numbers at any level.

In fairness to Pie, Quentin is two and a half years older than Felix. Pie hit .304/.349/.554 as a 20-year-old in AA. Quentin hit 303./.398/.539 as a 20-year-old at Stanford.

 

Pie does have the advantage in age, but he's never going to walk enough to even touch Quentin's OBP.

Perhaps, but I think it's a little early to make blanket pronouncements like that. We do know that Pie was a much, much, much better hitter at 20 than Quentin was.

[fromthestretch]

Ever since they gave Clark that contract extension, I've been wondering what their plans are. The Cubs really should look into some sort of deal with them for outfield help.

 

I think Glaus and Jackson are staying put. I would think that they'd be open to trading Clark if someone made them a good enough offer (calling all AL teams looking for a DH), but I imagine he'll be back.

 

If they were smart, they'd try to deal Gonzalez or possibly Green. However, I could see them dealing Tracy. He's a third baseman (albeit a bit shaky with the glove there), who's blocked at that position by Glaus for the next three years. If they keep Clark, Tracy won't be playing much first base for the next two years, since Clark won't be playing any other position. Tracy has played some outfield, mostly in right. I'm not sure how good/bad he is defensively in the outfield, but he wouldn't be a bad guy for the Cubs to acquire for LF (if he's not a complete butcher defensively).

 

That said, I'd probably prefer Quentin.

[Tim]

- Williams + ??? for Quentin.

- Sign Burnett for the rotation.

- Sign Giles for the other OF position.

- Let Quentin & Murton fight it out for PT in the OF.

- Resign Nomar & Walker for the IF.

- Let Neifi go and use Cedeno as backup IF.

- Let Corey & Hairston fight it out for PT in CF while Pie gets some AB's in AAA.

 

 

Enjoy seeing an offense that can get on base and hit for some power.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

A lot. Quentin is better than any two prospects in our minors.

 

Maybe in the short term, but in the long-term, both Felix Pie and Ryan Harvey---IMO---will be better then Quentin. Conor Jackson on the other hand.....

 

Quentin hit .300/.420/.550 in AAA, Neither Pie or Harvey have approached those numbers at any level.

 

Quentin and Jackson are basically the same player. Same age, but Quentin plays OF while Jackson is a first baseman. Quentin also has more HR power, at least for now.

 

As much as I love Quentin, Connor Jackson has the advantage in plate discipline/strike zone judgement (and Carlos Quentin's strike zone judgement is pretty good). I think the Diamondbacks prefer Connor to Carlos, so they definitely think his HR power will come.

[imb]

A lot. Quentin is better than any two prospects in our minors.

 

Maybe in the short term, but in the long-term, both Felix Pie and Ryan Harvey---IMO---will be better then Quentin. Conor Jackson on the other hand.....

 

Quentin hit .300/.420/.550 in AAA, Neither Pie or Harvey have approached those numbers at any level.

 

Quentin and Jackson are basically the same player. Same age, but Quentin plays OF while Jackson is a first baseman. Quentin also has more HR power, at least for now.

 

As much as I love Quentin, Connor Jackson has the advantage in plate discipline/strike zone judgement (and Carlos Quentin's strike zone judgement is pretty good). I think the Diamondbacks prefer Connor to Carlos, so they definitely think his HR power will come.

 

He did hit 38 doubles.

[burnt out cubbie fan]

If Hendry could pull off a trade for Carlos without giving up Felix he would make me so happy.

[CuseCubFan69]

- Williams + ??? for Quentin.

- Sign Burnett for the rotation.

- Sign Giles for the other OF position.

- Let Quentin & Murton fight it out for PT in the OF.

- Resign Nomar & Walker for the IF.

- Let Neifi go and use Cedeno as backup IF.

- Let Corey & Hairston fight it out for PT in CF while Pie gets some AB's in AAA.

 

 

Enjoy seeing an offense that can get on base and hit for some power.

 

What happens after one week:

 

-Hairston in left and CPatt in CF

-Quentin and/or Murton sent down

-Flunkee AAAA guy is called up

-Cedeno sent down

-Aurillia signs AAA contract and is called up

-Dusty blames NSBB for 2005 debacle

-Tim yanks hair out of head

[fromthestretch]

What does Arizona plan to do with Scott Hairston next season (he's currently recovering from shoulder surgery)? From everything I've heard, they plan to make him a corner outfielder since his defense at 2B was terrible. Just another guy that they have in the mix.

[goonys evil twin]

Whatever happens in AZ, I hope to heck that Gonzo doesn't end up as the Cubs big name acquisition.

[BigbadB]

What does Arizona plan to do with Scott Hairston next season (he's currently recovering from shoulder surgery)? From everything I've heard, they plan to make him a corner outfielder since his defense at 2B was terrible. Just another guy that they have in the mix.

 

I think he's their version of Nic Jackson. Probably too late for Scott with all the other names blocking him and the lost year.