8/10 Dunn and Mercker's Reds (Milton) @ Cubs (Hill) 1:20 CSN

[UMFan83]

Thisis the end of Dusty. JH gave him the dreaded vote of confidence and tried to redirect the media's attention to the players (who, in reality, are at least 50% responsible). He gone.

 

You think only 50%? I think you guys are seriously overvaluing the effect of the manager.

[JoshiQ]

Don't live near Chicago or have MLB radio, watching on TV. How is Santo doing? This season, I'm afraid, might just kill him.

[RynoRules]

Thisis the end of Dusty. JH gave him the dreaded vote of confidence and tried to redirect the media's attention to the players (who, in reality, are at least 50% responsible). He gone.

 

I wouldn't be so sure.

 

Through the years, this team has never failed to shock me by keeping the biggest boneheads around and getting rid of the smart people.

 

I am not sure that the old rules apply anymore. We of Cubs Nation have become quite a bit more impatient and angry since the days of Himes, et al.

[RynoRules]

Thisis the end of Dusty. JH gave him the dreaded vote of confidence and tried to redirect the media's attention to the players (who, in reality, are at least 50% responsible). He gone.

 

You think only 50%? I think you guys are seriously overvaluing the effect of the manager.

 

I believe that I said "at least". I am not sure, b/c I am not in the dugout to observe. I can guess that there's enough blame to go around, but I mainly blame Dusty, with the players being a very close second.

[abuck1220]

With this performance, any Hill plus extras for Dunn trade this offseason can be kissed goodbye.

 

Once agin, another player has successfully devalued himself in a Cub uniform.

 

yep. he's done...i can tell all i need to know about a guy after four starts.

 

this whole season is the fault of hill and patterson.

 

Who talked about CPatt there? Does anyone actually read anymore?

 

Anyway, I'm not saying Hill is a failure or to blame for the season. What I'm pointing out is that a lot of people thought Hill was a sticking point in a trade for Dunn or any Reds outfielder. Since this poor performance is against Reds, chances are they will no longer want him as much in a trade. In other words, this performance decreases his value to the Reds if there ever was a trade to discuss with the Reds.

 

and if there's one thing we've learned from years worth of trade deadline talk, it's that every rumor you hear is true.

 

i'm sure that if hendry would have offered hill for dunn, he would have gotten laughed straight out of town.

[Wild_Cubs04]

Postgame:

 

Reporter: So, what happened today, Dusty?

 

Dusty: Boy, I don't know what to say. I ain't talkin' about no rumors this time. I don't no where that stuff comes from, man. One minute I'm in Washington, the next minute I'm in LA. I mean, who starts this jive?

 

Reporter: Uh, no Dusty. I was talking about the game. You told us a couple days ago you wouldn't talk about rumors anymore.

 

Dusty: Oh, the game? Oh yeah. Well, I ain't hittin', am I? I ain't pitchin' either. Don't ask me. Sarge and Gene handle the hittin' and Larry works the pitchers. You don't expect me to handle everything, do you?

 

Reporter: Well, what do you do if you delegate everything?

 

Dusty: I do alot. Alot, man. I watch over everyone to make sure they are doing their jobs. You can't have 5 fisherman on a four sided boat, know what I'm sayin'?

 

Reporter(s) in unison: No.

 

Dusty: I'll tell you one thing. My guys don't quit. They go out there each day and work their butts off. They give up sometimes, though. In fact, they give up most of the time. I'm tired of this stuff, man. I'm tired of it.

 

Reporter: So, do they quit, or don't they?

 

Dusty: What did I just say? You have to ask them. I know I don't quit. I've never quit anything. In San Fransisco, we played in October 8 straight years. You know, the playoffs.

 

Reporter: No, you didn't.

 

Dusty: You may not have seen it, but we did. And, I did it without rookies. We didn't have any talent in SF. But, we didn't have any personnel problems either. Everyone got along. It was like a big family.

 

Reporter: Didn't Bonds and Kent have a highly publicized fight in the dugout?

 

Dusty: Man, what are you trying to dig up? Everyone has fights once in a while. Striped bass travel in schools, but you don't think they bump into each other once in a while? In the end, its about who gets to the bait first, because the bait is for everyone.

 

Reporter: Then, why does it matter who gets there first?

 

Dusty: Dude, its not my problem. I don't know what else to say. All I know is that my coaches need brought back for continuity of leadership.

 

Reporter: Why should the Cubs bring back your coaches when you have placed fault for the Cub fundamental failures on them?

Dusty: Stop stirring stuff up, man. I'm loyal to my guys. I've won with these guys. That is all that matters. You don't get rid of your girlfriend just because you don't like her anymore.

 

Reporter: Sure you do.

 

Dusty: You're just doing the same stuff to me like you did to Barry. The same stuff. Where's Darren?

 

Hahahahahaha :lol:

[mhuber92211]

To whoever called me out a few weeks ago when I strenously pointed out this choking dog team has no heart, whenever you want to apologize to me, I'm ready.

 

That would be me and not only me, see Rants.

[YearofDaCubs]

You gotta love guaranteed contracts.

[XZero771679666304]

Postgame:

 

Reporter: So, what happened today, Dusty?

 

Dusty: Boy, I don't know what to say. I ain't talkin' about no rumors this time. I don't no where that stuff comes from, man. One minute I'm in Washington, the next minute I'm in LA. I mean, who starts this jive?

 

Reporter: Uh, no Dusty. I was talking about the game. You told us a couple days ago you wouldn't talk about rumors anymore.

 

Dusty: Oh, the game? Oh yeah. Well, I ain't hittin', am I? I ain't pitchin' either. Don't ask me. Sarge and Gene handle the hittin' and Larry works the pitchers. You don't expect me to handle everything, do you?

 

Reporter: Well, what do you do if you delegate everything?

 

Dusty: I do alot. Alot, man. I watch over everyone to make sure they are doing their jobs. You can't have 5 fisherman on a four sided boat, know what I'm sayin'?

 

Reporter(s) in unison: No.

 

Dusty: I'll tell you one thing. My guys don't quit. They go out there each day and work their butts off. They give up sometimes, though. In fact, they give up most of the time. I'm tired of this stuff, man. I'm tired of it.

 

Reporter: So, do they quit, or don't they?

 

Dusty: What did I just say? You have to ask them. I know I don't quit. I've never quit anything. In San Fransisco, we played in October 8 straight years. You know, the playoffs.

 

Reporter: No, you didn't.

 

Dusty: You may not have seen it, but we did. And, I did it without rookies. We didn't have any talent in SF. But, we didn't have any personnel problems either. Everyone got along. It was like a big family.

 

Reporter: Didn't Bonds and Kent have a highly publicized fight in the dugout?

 

Dusty: Man, what are you trying to dig up? Everyone has fights once in a while. Striped bass travel in schools, but you don't think they bump into each other once in a while? In the end, its about who gets to the bait first, because the bait is for everyone.

 

Reporter: Then, why does it matter who gets there first?

 

Dusty: Dude, its not my problem. I don't know what else to say. All I know is that my coaches need brought back for continuity of leadership.

 

Reporter: Why should the Cubs bring back your coaches when you have placed fault for the Cub fundamental failures on them?

Dusty: Stop stirring stuff up, man. I'm loyal to my guys. I've won with these guys. That is all that matters. You don't get rid of your girlfriend just because you don't like her anymore.

 

Reporter: Sure you do.

 

Dusty: You're just doing the same stuff to me like you did to Barry. The same stuff. Where's Darren?

 

Priceless. :lol:

[Somedaysoon]

1997 and 2002 were terrible years but this is far worse in terms of talent and expected results. It's really reaching for us to come down on Hill, who never, ever should have seen the big club this year.

[OldHappyCubFan]

Time to watch the White Sox in extra innings own the Yankees.

 

The Cubs bore me.

[KatJ]

Man, I know frustration causes people to say things, but you have to remember, Hill wasn't supposed to have been brought up this year. Had it not been for injuries and suckiness in the bullpen he wouldn't have been brought up this year. Or, if he had been brought up, he would've stayed in the pen if our starters had been healthy. There is nothing to suggest that he won't be a star in the future. It was not designed for him to have been brought up to start in 2005. What we are looking at is the worst case scenario that is actually happening.

 

I know that, and I'd really like to know who is responsible for dragging out the scenario with Wood. This Amateur Hour could have been avoided if Hendry had traded for a bona fide ML starter - ANY STARTER- in July.

 

And Dusty should be pilloried for his abuse of Hill. He couldn't have tried any harder to shoot the kid's self-confidence all to hell.

[JoshiQ]

The kid at the Yankees game jumped onto the net?!?! WHAT A LOON!

[10man]

I'm a big fan of Jim Hendry and what he's done so far, but if he doesn't fire Dusty soon then he's got to go too.

[YearofDaCubs]

Wow, look at that. Look at Burnitz. Wow, this team is cooked. Bench everybody.

[E.J.]

Haha. What a pathetic inning by a pathetic team.

[eburgcub]

That's the way to get the 7 runs back. Swinging for the fences. How about just trying to get on base?

[OldHappyCubFan]

Hear that? Thats the sound of Burnitz' contract option being shredded in Jim's office.

[JoshiQ]

I don't care how far behind you are, no excuse for what Burnitz just did.

[Mizzou]

Postgame:

 

Reporter: So, what happened today, Dusty?

 

Dusty: Boy, I don't know what to say. I ain't talkin' about no rumors this time. I don't no where that stuff comes from, man. One minute I'm in Washington, the next minute I'm in LA. I mean, who starts this jive?

 

Reporter: Uh, no Dusty. I was talking about the game. You told us a couple days ago you wouldn't talk about rumors anymore.

 

Dusty: Oh, the game? Oh yeah. Well, I ain't hittin', am I? I ain't pitchin' either. Don't ask me. Sarge and Gene handle the hittin' and Larry works the pitchers. You don't expect me to handle everything, do you?

 

Reporter: Well, what do you do if you delegate everything?

 

Dusty: I do alot. Alot, man. I watch over everyone to make sure they are doing their jobs. You can't have 5 fisherman on a four sided boat, know what I'm sayin'?

 

Reporter(s) in unison: No.

 

Dusty: I'll tell you one thing. My guys don't quit. They go out there each day and work their butts off. They give up sometimes, though. In fact, they give up most of the time. I'm tired of this stuff, man. I'm tired of it.

 

Reporter: So, do they quit, or don't they?

 

Dusty: What did I just say? You have to ask them. I know I don't quit. I've never quit anything. In San Fransisco, we played in October 8 straight years. You know, the playoffs.

 

Reporter: No, you didn't.

 

Dusty: You may not have seen it, but we did. And, I did it without rookies. We didn't have any talent in SF. But, we didn't have any personnel problems either. Everyone got along. It was like a big family.

 

Reporter: Didn't Bonds and Kent have a highly publicized fight in the dugout?

 

Dusty: Man, what are you trying to dig up? Everyone has fights once in a while. Striped bass travel in schools, but you don't think they bump into each other once in a while? In the end, its about who gets to the bait first, because the bait is for everyone.

 

Reporter: Then, why does it matter who gets there first?

 

Dusty: Dude, its not my problem. I don't know what else to say. All I know is that my coaches need brought back for continuity of leadership.

 

Reporter: Why should the Cubs bring back your coaches when you have placed fault for the Cub fundamental failures on them?

Dusty: Stop stirring stuff up, man. I'm loyal to my guys. I've won with these guys. That is all that matters. You don't get rid of your girlfriend just because you don't like her anymore.

 

Reporter: Sure you do.

 

Dusty: You're just doing the same stuff to me like you did to Barry. The same stuff. Where's Darren?

 

Priceless. :lol:

 

Agreed. That is absolutely hysterical.

[Chris]

<--------------------------still loves the Cubs

[dalgreen]

1997 and 2002 were terrible years but this is far worse in terms of talent and expected results. It's really reaching for us to come down on Hill, who never, ever should have seen the big club this year.

 

The 2000 season was brutal, absolutely brutal.

[neely crenshaw]

there is one man who should bare the brunt and that is jim hendry! this is a god awful team.....the managing is bad but would we win anything with anyone else managing? i think not.

 

the players are bad, and many should be looking for elsewhere to play

dusty has been dusty

hendry put the 2 together....let's start over.

[E.J.]

The kid at the Yankees game jumped onto the net?!?! WHAT A LOON!

 

He was probably a Cubs fan checking the Cubs/Reds score on his cellphone last night. Once he saw the score he felt suicide was the only way to go.

[YearofDaCubs]

I don't care how far behind you are, no excuse for what Burnitz just did.

Agreed.