Astros (Teng) vs Cubs (Rea): 5/23/26, 1:20pm

[Brandon Glick]

Time to end the losing streak.

	MON	TUE	WED	THU	FRI	TOT
Trent Thornton	0	20	18	0	0	38
Ryan Rolison	0	0	20	0	0	20
Phil Maton	0	12	16	0	22	50
Jacob Webb	0	16	0	0	15	31
Hoby Milner	0	0	16	0	8	24
Ethan Roberts	28	0	0	0	32	60
Daniel Palencia	0	0	24	0	0	24
Caleb Thielbar	0	22	0	0	0	22

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

[cl smooth]

Alcantara spotted at Wrigley.

[chibears55]

Let's see how much of a lineup change Counsell does this weekend with Ramirez and Alcantara 

[Rcal10]

57 minutes ago, chibears55 said:

Let's see how much of a lineup change Counsell does this weekend with Ramirez and Alcantara 

He has to play these guys, right? I mean they can easily put Alcantara in 3-5 days in a row just giving guys a day off. Not sure how much Ramirez plays, but they can do that with him as well, at least 3 days. I have to think Mo is being sent down for this move. I’m not convinced KA will do well, but they might as well see him play now. 

EDIT: Just saw the line up. PCA leading off. I actually like that. Neither Alcantara nor Ramirez are in the line up, but Mo is. Lopez dfa for Kevin.

Edited 1 hour ago by Rcal10

[CUBDOM4life]

[Neuby]

No Ramirez Alacantra. again. Roster management continues to a be a struggle for Jed and Craig

 

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

What's the roster move for KA? Happ on IL for "going through it"?

[Rcal10]

2 minutes ago, Tangled Up in Plaid said:

What's the roster move for KA? Happ on IL for "going through it"?

Lopez dfa

[Geographyhater8888]

I can’t remember the last time Seiya was lower than 5th in the lineup.

Edited 20 minutes ago by Geographyhater8888

[PackLandVA]

Counsel in love with the L, R, L, R batting order/

[chibears55]

1 hour ago, Rcal10 said:

He has to play these guys, right? I mean they can easily put Alcantara in 3-5 days in a row just giving guys a day off. Not sure how much Ramirez plays, but they can do that with him as well, at least 3 days. I have to think Mo is being sent down for this move. I’m not convinced KA will do well, but they might as well see him play now. 

EDIT: Just saw the line up. PCA leading off. I actually like that. Neither Alcantara nor Ramirez are in the line up, but Mo is. Lopez dfa for Kevin.

Lol, you'd think hed play them but as we see, hes not .

I mean sometimes players need to feel a little sense of urgency when theres a team struggle,  and one way I've seen over the years managers do is just bench guys for a few days and play the bench or young guys that gets called up. Makes zero sense why at least Ramirez isnt in the lineup today.

Counsell a head scratcher with his decisions most of time

[chibears55]

35 minutes ago, CUBDOM4life said:

Only change in lineup is Happ is out, it ok to say chibears was right..lol J/K maybe 🤔 😂

Hopefully moving a couple guys around brings better results,  bottom line , no matter where you hit, you still gotta produce.

Kinda strange not to see at least Ramirez in lineup over Swanson,  but this is Counsell we're talking about 🤷

[Jason Ross]

13 minutes ago, chibears55 said:

Only change in lineup is Happ is out, it ok to say chibears was right..lol J/K maybe 🤔 😂

Hopefully moving a couple guys around brings better results,  bottom line , no matter where you hit, you still gotta produce.

Kinda strange not to see at least Ramirez in lineup over Swanson,  but this is Counsell we're talking about 🤷

Pedro Ramirez isn't a shortstop. Not to mention Colin Rea throws 50% ground balls, so if you mean "move Hoerner to SS and pull your +4 OAA SS for a rookie" that seems not like the ideal situation to do that. This is a day in which you'd prefer an elite defensive INF. Maybe if Shota was on the mound this would work. But he isn't. 

But yeah, Counsell is the issue. 🙄

[chibears55]

8 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

Pedro Ramirez isn't a shortstop. Not to mention Colin Rea throws 50% ground balls, so if you mean "move Hoerner to SS and pull your +4 OAA SS for a rookie" that seems not like the ideal situation to do that. This is a day in which you'd prefer an elite defensive INF. Maybe if Shota was on the mound this would work. But he isn't. 

But yeah, Counsell is the issue. 🙄

He can play 2B with Hoerner at SS , i think Nico can handle a few groundballs🙄

Edited 50 minutes ago by chibears55

[Jason Ross]

5 minutes ago, chibears55 said:

He can play 2B with Hoerner at SS , i think Nico can handle a few groundballs🙄

I addressed that in the post. So to recap your plan:
1. When your 2nd highest GB% pitcher on the roster is on the mound weaken your defense both at SS and 2b by taking out the 6th best defensive SS in baseball and shift over your starting 2b
2. To make way for a rookie with zero PA's ever in the MLB

Don't act like this is some genius plan. You're actively making the team worse defensively for a big "who knows?" offensively. This isn't on "Craig Counsell is a big dummy". This is "I want to see the new shiny toy". So just say that. Don't act like the smart baseball guy is all of a sudden incompetent. Just say "Man, as a fan, it'd be fun to get to see Pedro Ramirez". I'd respect that; that's a totally normal thing. What I cannot stand is when you act like this is some oversight on Craig's end. It's not. 

[chibears55]

21 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

I addressed that in the post. So to recap your plan:
1. When your 2nd highest GB% pitcher on the roster is on the mound weaken your defense both at SS and 2b by taking out the 6th best defensive SS in baseball and shift over your starting 2b
2. To make way for a rookie with zero PA's ever in the MLB

Don't act like this is some genius plan. You're actively making the team worse defensively for a big "who knows?" offensively. This isn't on "Craig Counsell is a big dummy". This is "I want to see the new shiny toy". So just say that. Don't act like the smart baseball guy is all of a sudden incompetent. Just say "Man, as a fan, it'd be fun to get to see Pedro Ramirez". I'd respect that; that's a totally normal thing. What I cannot stand is when you act like this is some oversight on Craig's end. It's not. 

Lmao,  youre the one turning it into something more than what it is by bringing GB statistics into it.

The whole point is, the worse hitter in the lineup overall is Swanson,  if Counsell gonna shake the lineup up , might as well start with removing the worse hitter from it.

Not every groundball is hit to short, and Rea barely makes it to the 5th inning,  so we're talking maybe a handful or so balls might go that way today with Rea on the mound.

I have full confidence in Nico that he could of handled it.

The oversight for Counsell is that he has a struggling lineup, he said himself there would be a change,  and the only change made was removing Happ, so I guess he feels Happ isnt having his best season ever with the bat right now.

Moving PCA to leadoff and dropping Nico and Suzuki a couple spots isnt exactly a bold move to the order, it a different look, but if he were going to be bold, he would of benched Swanson too.

Not everything has to be about statistics,  sometimes you just need to be bold for a couple games to shake things up. 

Edited 24 minutes ago by chibears55

[Jason Ross]

19 minutes ago, chibears55 said:

Lmao,  youre the one turning it into something more than what it is by bringing GB statistics into it.

The whole point is, the worse hitter in the lineup overall is Swanson,  if Counsell gonna shake the lineup up , might as well start with removing the worse hitter from it.

Not every groundball is hit to short, and Rea barely makes it to the 5th inning,  so we're talking maybe a handful or so balls might go that way today with Rea on the mound.

I have full confidence in Nico that he could of handled it.

The oversight for Counsell is that he has a struggling lineup, he said himself there would be a change,  and the only change made was removing Happ, so I guess he feels Happ isnt having his best season ever with the bat right now.

Moving PCA to leadoff and dropping Nico and Suzuki a couple spots isnt exactly a bold move to the order, it a different look, but if he were going to be bold, he would of benched Swanson too.

Not everything has to be about statistics,  sometimes you just need to be bold for a couple games to shake things up. 

You're the one bitching about Craig Counsell like he's the idiot for not considering who's pitching. Stop digging a hole. What you really want is just to see Pedro Ramirez. I get it. So just say that. Your "justification" for it is silly, dude. You can just say what you really mean. "I want to see Pedro Ramirez". I, too, would like to see Pedro Ramirez in a Cub uniform. I also understand pulling Swanson when your ground ball pitcher is on the mound might not be the best choice. 

Here was Craig Counsell's quote. "Maybe a different look in the lineup. Maybe a day off". Let's see...is the lineup order different? Yep! Is someone getting a day off? Yep! So what did he say that he didn't do? 

And yes. Everything is statistics when it comes to baseball; sorry, it is. There is a reason team's don't hire random fans to run horsefeathers and instead hire people with analytical backgrounds. Because "being bold for a couple of games to shake things up" isn't a real thing. Fans think it is, but that's not how it works. Colin Rea gives up a lot of ground balls. "Being bold" doesn't change that, for example. Players are more or less likely to do things. Can low-chance outcomes happen? Yeah, they happen all the time! But that's not "bold" that's "going against the grain". 

Think of it this way: if you're running out of money, you could "be bold for a few days" and gamble all of your money on lottery tickets. Statistics say "you're probably not going to win" (there's odds on the back of the scratchers...or...statistics). Maybe you'll be the lucky winner; someone will be! But it doesn't change the idea that statistics are real, and that "being bold" in the face of statistics, or ignoring that the odds aren't still there - reality still exists. 

So, again, just say what you really mean: "As a fan, I'd like to see Pedro Ramirez". 

[mk49]

I wanna see Ramirez, too.😄  But, I don't think he'll play much, before he goes back.