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[Hairyducked Idiot]

The only real positive I can take away from this is that he had 2 sacks against 29 throws despite the fact that he was under considerable pressure.

 

[WrigleyField 22]

17 minutes ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

The only real positive I can take away from this is that he had 2 sacks against 29 throws despite the fact that he was under considerable pressure.

 

He also had a nice sequence I think at the end of the 3Q. Hit a couple nice quick outs (his one possible TD pass also was a dropped out route).

 

One of the two sacks was really bad though and could have been game changing if not for both TDs from defense and ST.

Edited September 9, 2024 by WrigleyField 22

[WrigleyField 22]

Just a reminder that even Stroud in his record setting rookie campaign put up a game basically the statistical equivalent to this game.

 

Just really unfortunate for Caleb it was game one given the immense hype and pressure.  But hopefully just a true abberation.

[We Got The Whole 9]

Well the early returns on the big move of the off-season look fantastic. Darrell Taylor had a monster game and looks like a huge piece of the defense.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

My opinion might definitely change when I see actual film breakdowns, but right now I'm still waiting for Odunze to not look lost and Allen to not look washed.

[Old Style]

I didn’t expect Patrick Mahomes today but I definitely expected better than this. Now that also doesn’t mean I’m ready to give up on him by any stretch of the imagination. I’m ready to see him play next Sunday against the Texans. The OL was a disappointment today too but that isn’t very surprising. 

[NorthsideAvenger]

Any chance the offensive struggles were in part rust, due to lack of live game action for three weeks? If not mistaken none of the starters played against the Chiefs, which Caleb and the starters have not played since August 17 against the Bengals?

Before people mentioned the defense not playing since August 17, the difference is the defense has continuinity, whereas the offense is breaking in a new QB, RB, two WR and a TE, not to mentioned a new OC. So is it possible that it might take a few weeks before the offense finds it's legs?

 

Edited September 9, 2024 by NorthsideAvenger

[Old Style]

Who’s overreacting? Are we only allowed to be Mister Rogers on here when discussing the anointed one? 

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Yeah, I think people are being pretty consistent in acknowledging that it was just one game.  As someone pointed out, imagine if the Jets game was the only game you saw of CJ Stroud last year 

But within the context of a single game, that was as bad as it gets. I've always believed there are good rookie issues and bad rookie issues.

Good rookie issues are being able to make big plays but mixing in bad ones.  Get fooled by a disguised coverage. Throw a pick because you don't notice the lb shading your throwing lane.  Even the big sack where he underestimated how fast nfl DL can close, i would file that under "good rookie problem."

Bad rookie problems are when you don't show the flashes.  His longest completion was an 11 yard slant.  He overthrew every deep ball, dirt-balled half the intermediate throws, and sailed a few out routes.  I didn't see a single particularly impressive pocket escape either.

"But the offensive line was terrible.". The reason Caleb Williams is a thing is because he can make good throws in bad pocket situations. That's why you take him over Drake Maye.

"It looked like first-game jitters". Call me crazy but not being able to handle pressure and nerves without peeing down your leg is a bad thing for a franchise qb.

That was a worse debut than i could have possibly imagined.

But again, just one game.  It's gonna be a loooooong week waiting for another one to get this one behind him 

[Soul]

8 hours ago, Old Style said:

Who’s overreacting? Are we only allowed to be Mister Rogers on here when discussing the anointed one? 

Yes.  No negative vibes allowed here.

 

J/K.  Thinking about the game this morning it seems like it took the Bears all day to figure out pressure on Levis.  Then they got it right and he turned into a pumpkin.  There wasn’t enough pressure on him most of the afternoon but even without, they only put up 17 so I’m happy overall, taking into account the in-game improvement and expecting improvement as the season goes on.

[BigbadB]

8 hours ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

Yeah, I think people are being pretty consistent in acknowledging that it was just one game.  As someone pointed out, imagine if the Jets game was the only game you saw of CJ Stroud last year 

But within the context of a single game, that was as bad as it gets. I've always believed there are good rookie issues and bad rookie issues.

Good rookie issues are being able to make big plays but mixing in bad ones.  Get fooled by a disguised coverage. Throw a pick because you don't notice the lb shading your throwing lane.  Even the big sack where he underestimated how fast nfl DL can close, i would file that under "good rookie problem."

Bad rookie problems are when you don't show the flashes.  His longest completion was an 11 yard slant.  He overthrew every deep ball, dirt-balled half the intermediate throws, and sailed a few out routes.  I didn't see a single particularly impressive pocket escape either.

"But the offensive line was terrible.". The reason Caleb Williams is a thing is because he can make good throws in bad pocket situations. That's why you take him over Drake Maye.

"It looked like first-game jitters". Call me crazy but not being able to handle pressure and nerves without peeing down your leg is a bad thing for a franchise qb.

That was a worse debut than i could have possibly imagined.

But again, just one game.  It's gonna be a loooooong week waiting for another one to get this one behind him 

I was skeptical when Caleb was saying he never gets nervous. He looked nervous out there, which should be expected. While he was practicing weekly with the Bears strong D, they had to play a bit soft and not attack the star QB. He played very little in preseason. And then Tennessee found some weaknesses on the OLine and exploited them. 

I was most disappointed with the OLine. I saw several TE's run routes without hitting anyone and sure enough, the guy they were covered up with pre-snap was the guy making Caleb run for his life. I saw Blasingame miss blocks. I get it, it's going to happen because the other team has play makers, too. But, jeez..... 

The overthrows seemed more like a guy feeling overwhelmed in the best league for football players in the world and his big eyes when he saw an open receiver weren't communicating with his overzealous arm. I wanted to see some first down passes, which the OC seemed to be shying away from. The times they did try to throw on first down, the OLine was issuing free passes to the DLine. So frustrating. 

Caleb was bad today, but he didn't have turnovers, the team won with bad offensive play, so there is some confidence builders in there leading up to a game they will have a tough time winning. This one will be a good test, because Houston is a playoff caliber team and the OC has a lot of bad film to show to improve things in week 2. 

[raw]

9 hours ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

My opinion might definitely change when I see actual film breakdowns, but right now I'm still waiting for Odunze to not look lost and Allen to not look washed.

I feel like Allen was beating his guy pretty consistently. Team high 11 targets out of the 29 passes, and that included designed targets to Velus, like 3 to DJ, and a couple others. He beat his man pretty good on the first deep throw that Caleb was nowhere close on. He beat his guy in short area for the would be TD.

I do feel like Rome was kinda being misused in the slot a lot. And definitely seemed lost.

[gflore34]

9 hours ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

Yeah, I think people are being pretty consistent in acknowledging that it was just one game.  As someone pointed out, imagine if the Jets game was the only game you saw of CJ Stroud last year 

But within the context of a single game, that was as bad as it gets. I've always believed there are good rookie issues and bad rookie issues.

Good rookie issues are being able to make big plays but mixing in bad ones.  Get fooled by a disguised coverage. Throw a pick because you don't notice the lb shading your throwing lane.  Even the big sack where he underestimated how fast nfl DL can close, i would file that under "good rookie problem."

Bad rookie problems are when you don't show the flashes.  His longest completion was an 11 yard slant.  He overthrew every deep ball, dirt-balled half the intermediate throws, and sailed a few out routes.  I didn't see a single particularly impressive pocket escape either.

"But the offensive line was terrible.". The reason Caleb Williams is a thing is because he can make good throws in bad pocket situations. That's why you take him over Drake Maye.

"It looked like first-game jitters". Call me crazy but not being able to handle pressure and nerves without peeing down your leg is a bad thing for a franchise qb.

That was a worse debut than i could have possibly imagined.

But again, just one game.  It's gonna be a loooooong week waiting for another one to get this one behind him 

Could be longer.  Took Love nearly half a season to finally get it going, we may have to wait just as long to see Caleb start clicking.

 

Which means a month+ of same old Bears, Bears are a QB graveyard, etc. horsefeathers, grrrrrrreat!

Edited September 9, 2024 by gflore34

[BigbadB]

1 minute ago, raw said:

I feel like Allen was beating his guy pretty consistently. Team high 11 targets out of the 29 passes, and that included designed targets to Velus, like 3 to DJ, and a couple others. He beat his man pretty good on the first deep throw that Caleb was nowhere close on. He beat his guy in short area for the would be TD.

I do feel like Rome was kinda being misused in the slot a lot. And definitely seemed lost.

Speaking of Keenan, did he ever come back after he limped off the field on the touchdown attempt in the 4th quarter?

[raw]

8 minutes ago, BigbadB said:

Speaking of Keenan, did he ever come back after he limped off the field on the touchdown attempt in the 4th quarter?

I don't know

[Wilson A2000]

Teams that were down 14 at halftime and failed to score an offensive touchdown were 2-306 before yesterday according to ESPN

[WrigleyField 22]

4 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

Teams that were down 14 at halftime and failed to score an offensive touchdown were 2-306 before yesterday according to ESPN

Another, if not both if those others just have to be Bears teams right 

 

Edit - as I thought the 2006 Cardinals "they are who we thought they were" was another game (down 20 at half and largest defect overcome without a Off TD ever) was one of the other two.  Any ideas what the third is?

Edited September 9, 2024 by WrigleyField 22

[WrigleyField 22]

Found the third and it is not a team that would probably be in anyone's top 10 guesses.

[WrigleyField 22]

The third DOES have a fun Bears relation to it though.

[Old Style]

18 minutes ago, WrigleyField 22 said:

Found the third and it is not a team that would probably be in anyone's top 10 guesses.

Thanks for sharing what you found. 

[Tim]

1 minute ago, Old Style said:

Thanks for sharing what you found. 

I'll give a hint. 

A current Bears player scored for the winning team in that game.

[WrigleyField 22]

11 minutes ago, Old Style said:

Thanks for sharing what you found. 

It's called building suspense

[WrigleyField 22]

Hilarious final moments of the third:

(redacted for more suspense building)

(0:29 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Doe pass short right to J.Doe to XXX 34 for 14 yards (J.Doe). FUMBLES (J.Doe), RECOVERED by XX-J.Doe at XXX 34. J.Doe to XXX 24 for 10 yards (J.Doe). PENALTY on XXX, Delay of Game, 5 yards, enforced at XXX 24. The Replay Official reviewed the fumble ruling, and the play was Upheld. The ruling on the field stands.

 

[17 Seconds]

10 hours ago, Old Style said:

Who’s overreacting? Are we only allowed to be Mister Rogers on here when discussing the anointed one? 

anointed one?

[WrigleyField 22]

26 minutes ago, WrigleyField 22 said:

Hilarious final moments of the third:

(redacted for more suspense building)

(0:29 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Doe pass short right to J.Doe to XXX 34 for 14 yards (J.Doe). FUMBLES (J.Doe), RECOVERED by XX-J.Doe at XXX 34. J.Doe to XXX 24 for 10 yards (J.Doe). PENALTY on XXX, Delay of Game, 5 yards, enforced at XXX 24. The Replay Official reviewed the fumble ruling, and the play was Upheld. The ruling on the field stands.

 

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