Blue Jays (Francis) vs Cubs (Imanaga): 8/18/24, 1:20pm

[profisme]

Cody looks behind the fastball all day today.

[profisme]

And then he does that. Just sucks that Dansby is going to be the final out.

[Derwood]

Two 1-0 losses in the course of a week

[JHBulls]

10 minutes ago, profisme said:

Well they are doing a horseshit job of limiting his appearances to keep him from hitting his number.

Héctor Neris has averaged one appearance every 2.7 days this year (for 46 appearances). There are 37 games left and Neris needs 14 more appearance to get to 60 appearances to have his contract vest, that would mean he needs to make one appearance every 2.6 days for the rest of the year. Totally weird.

Edited August 18, 2024 by JHBulls

[Geographyhater8888]

It’s one thing to be shutout, it’s another when 9/12 shutout losses your pitching staff allowed 3 or fewer runs with 3 losses ending in 1-0 score. Garbage 

[BKHoo]

How many teams have a closer with a WIP > 1.5? 

[Stratos]

8 hours ago, LBiittner said:

Human element has been a part of this like, for almost 150 years?

Nothing new for this old timer

If they didn't show the K-zone on the broadcast i don't think many of us would be mad at too many calls.  Removing the k-zone might increase our enjoyment, we'd have to eyeball it like the umps and players do and not get mad so much about calls.  If you get caught looking at strike 3 and its 2 inches outside thats partly your fault IMO for not protecting the plate with 2-strikes.

[Derwood]

The players know the zone better than the umps. They shouldn’t have to expand their zone (which almost always ends up a weak grounder or a pop up) to adjust to a bad or inconsistent zone. 

Edited August 19, 2024 by Derwood

[CubinNY]

7 hours ago, Stratos said:

If they didn't show the K-zone on the broadcast i don't think many of us would be mad at too many calls.  Removing the k-zone might increase our enjoyment, we'd have to eyeball it like the umps and players do and not get mad so much about calls.  If you get caught looking at strike 3 and its 2 inches outside thats partly your fault IMO for not protecting the plate with 2-strikes.

you know what would increase my enjoyment? A proper and consistent strike zone. 

[Rex Buckingham]

9 hours ago, Stratos said:

If they didn't show the K-zone on the broadcast i don't think many of us would be mad at too many calls.  Removing the k-zone might increase our enjoyment, we'd have to eyeball it like the umps and players do and not get mad so much about calls.  If you get caught looking at strike 3 and its 2 inches outside thats partly your fault IMO for not protecting the plate with 2-strikes.

You're probably right, but you know what? They have the ability to get every call right, so let's do that instead

[Rcal10]

9 hours ago, Stratos said:

If they didn't show the K-zone on the broadcast i don't think many of us would be mad at too many calls.  Removing the k-zone might increase our enjoyment, we'd have to eyeball it like the umps and players do and not get mad so much about calls.  If you get caught looking at strike 3 and its 2 inches outside thats partly your fault IMO for not protecting the plate with 2-strikes.

How is the batter at fault for letting a pitch go that is 2 inches outside? And if he swung at it and missed you would be saying it was his fault because he should be in base with ball 4. That is just ridiculous to suggest a batter getting called out on a 3-2 pitch that misses the plate is at all his fault. Baseball can fix this issue. They need to fix it.

[Soul]

Eff’ing Cardinals are running 6 games up on their predicted record based on run differential.  Reminds me how much I’ve always hated them.

[mul21]

15 minutes ago, Soul said:

Eff’ing Cardinals are running 6 games up on their predicted record based on run differential.  Reminds me how much I’ve always hated them.

Let's see where they are in 2 weeks.  They've already taken a beating this month and it's not letting up yet.

[LBiittner]

12 hours ago, Stratos said:

If they didn't show the K-zone on the broadcast i don't think many of us would be mad at too many calls.  Removing the k-zone might increase our enjoyment, we'd have to eyeball it like the umps and players do and not get mad so much about calls.  If you get caught looking at strike 3 and its 2 inches outside thats partly your fault IMO for not protecting the plate with 2-strikes.

Often been said, if Tony Gwynn didn't swing, then it wasn't a strike. 

Tom Glavine got every call at least 6" outside.

Everything bob Gibson threw anywhere close was a strike. 

Sweet Lou Boudreau would constantly broadcast it was up to the hitter to pay attention and talk to his teammates on how the ump was calling pitches during that particular game.  i.e. the human element. 

[Rcal10]

32 minutes ago, LBiittner said:

Often been said, if Tony Gwynn didn't swing, then it wasn't a strike. 

Tom Glavine got every call at least 6" outside.

Everything bob Gibson threw anywhere close was a strike. 

Sweet Lou Boudreau would constantly broadcast it was up to the hitter to pay attention and talk to his teammates on how the ump was calling pitches during that particular game.  i.e. the human element. 

But back then they didn’t have any other option. Now they do. So why not use it and get the calls correct. I don’t understand why anyone would want an inferior product being used when there is a better option. Hell, back in 1950’s a black and white tv was awesome. So people lived with them. Before that people lived listening to games on the radio. Now we have high def and 80 inch screens. I don’t imagine if given the choice people would choose the radio to follow a game or a black and white tv. They did before. But because now there is a better option they go with that option. No different than choosing to play with better officiating that they can now have. 

[Derwood]

jUsT aDjUsT tO tHe sTrIkE zOnE

 

[NorthsideAvenger]

20 minutes ago, Derwood said:

jUsT aDjUsT tO tHe sTrIkE zOnE

 

More times than not umpires are ruining my enjoyment of game. MLB has the technology to fix the umpire problem, they don't want to l9se the "human element" of the game. Screw the umpires.

[Crusader]

1 hour ago, NorthsideAvenger said:

More times than not umpires are ruining my enjoyment of game. MLB has the technology to fix the umpire problem, they don't want to l9se the "human element" of the game. Screw the umpires.

Players are against it too. Specifically, the catchers that are good at framing. Lots of defensive catchers with no bat are pressuring the players association not to agree to proposed changes because they’d have to find a new profession, or actually learn how to hit a horsefeathers baseball.

Edited August 19, 2024 by Crusader

[Rcal10]

1 hour ago, Crusader said:

Players are against it too. Specifically, the catchers that are good at framing. Lots of defensive catchers with no bat are pressuring the players association not to agree to proposed changes because they’d have to find a new profession, or actually learn how to hit a horsefeathers baseball.

Are players really against it or just a select few catchers? I would think most players would want a consistent strike zone. And, tbh, I am not sure if it matters if the players don’t like it or not. But I would be very surprised if more were against it than for it. 

[Stratos]

7 hours ago, Rcal10 said:

And if he swung at it and missed you would be saying it was his fault because he should be in base with ball 4

Please don't put words in my mouth.  This isn't the first time you've made this kind of argument.

[Rcal10]

1 hour ago, Stratos said:

Please don't put words in my mouth.  This isn't the first time you've made this kind of argument.

Fair enough. Shouldn’t have said ”you” would say that. Should have said if he swung at what should have been ball 4 many people would complain he should have walked. Point is, if the pitch is not in the zone, and in some cases, not even close but gets called a strike, it is not something he should be blamed for. It is a bad call by the home plate umpire. Period. Why not eliminate bad calls if they can? 

[NorthsideAvenger]

4 hours ago, Crusader said:

Players are against it too. Specifically, the catchers that are good at framing. Lots of defensive catchers with no bat are pressuring the players association not to agree to proposed changes because they’d have to find a new profession, or actually learn how to hit a horsefeathers baseball.

I'm not letting a minority of players stand in the way of making baseball better. I'm beyond tired talking about umpires bad calls.

[CubinNY]

14 hours ago, Rcal10 said:

Are players really against it or just a select few catchers? I would think most players would want a consistent strike zone. And, tbh, I am not sure if it matters if the players don’t like it or not. But I would be very surprised if more were against it than for it. 

no one is against it.