8/8 - Cubs (Taillon) vs Mets (Carrasco): 6:10pm, Marquee

[Brock Beauchamp]

The Cubs need to take advantage of the soft parts of their schedule and they, uh... failed to do that last night. In a rather spectacular fashion.

They need to get back on track tonight, as they lost ground on both NLC teams in front of them.

[CubinNY]

ok. Hopefully, they learned not to pitch to Alonso. 

[Rex Buckingham]

Last night's pitching matchup wasas bad of a matchup as we could have in this series.  Our worst (yes, I'd consider Assad/Wesneski/Bullpen game better than Smyly) against their best.  Hopefully we give Alonso the Bonds treatment.  After him, their lineup is so weak

[Cubs420psd]

Smyly sucks hard. When Stroman comes back hopefully the rotation looks like.

 

Steele

Stroman

Tallion

Hendricks 

Assad/Wes/Killian bullpen game

 

Not thrilled about that four and five spot but if Stroman can at least come back to his career numbers that's a pretty solid one through three.

[squally1313]

Can someone call this game a must win

[Tryptamine]

3 hours ago, Cubs420psd said:

Smyly sucks hard. When Stroman comes back hopefully the rotation looks like.

 

Steele

Stroman

Tallion

Hendricks 

Assad/Wes/Killian bullpen game

 

Not thrilled about that four and five spot but if Stroman can at least come back to his career numbers that's a pretty solid one through three.

They simply cannot basically forfeit every fifth game by letting Smyly start. He needs to be put on the IL with a mystery injury until he can get himself straightened out. 

[We Got The Whole 9]

The Cubs have only called 3 IBB all year and I think that is too low. Identify the situation. Save the pitches. Point them to first base. 

[chibears55]

1 hour ago, Tryptamine said:

They simply cannot basically forfeit every fifth game by letting Smyly start. He needs to be put on the IL with a mystery injury until he can get himself straightened out. 

Just put him in the bullpen,  they need a lefty there...

Eventually they're gonna need to call up one of their prospect, maybe Brown and hope he provides the rotation a spark, otherwise they basically will be relying mostly on Steele,  Taillon, Stroman returning to form, and the offense. 

They really can't afford to do bullpen days every 5 games after the Whitesox series because of no days off and taxing the bullpen. 

[WhyCantWeWin]

They have 2 40 man roster spots now with Jensen claimed by Seattle. Wonder what they are planning 

[Tryptamine]

10 minutes ago, WhyCantWeWin said:

They have 2 40 man roster spots now with Jensen claimed by Seattle. Wonder what they are planning 

Perlaza kind of has to get one, though I wouldn't expect him to see any big league time until roster expansion. 

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Burdi, Boxberger, and Roberts are all on the 60 day IL and all 3 are starting to get game action again.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

2 hours ago, chibears55 said:

Just put him in the bullpen,  they need a lefty there...

Eventually they're gonna need to call up one of their prospect, maybe Brown and hope he provides the rotation a spark, otherwise they basically will be relying mostly on Steele,  Taillon, Stroman returning to form, and the offense. 

They really can't afford to do bullpen days every 5 games after the Whitesox series because of no days off and taxing the bullpen. 

Brown is 

 

1) hurt 

2) barely keeping his era below 5 at AAA

3) completely incapable of throwing strikes consistently

You can make the case that they might look a lot better on this front in a year, and i am sure plenty of people will line up to make that case, but right now the near-majors organizational pitching depth is pretty bad.  There's nobody putting up results at AAA that suggest they are ready to be replacement level starters in an MLB rotation 

[UMFan83]

No Seiya again tonight.  I'm not necessarily clamoring for him but kind of crazy that he's gone from everyday starter to completely off the radar in terms of playing time, not even as a PH.

Fake edit: I guess he did get a PH appearance yesterday when I wasn't paying attention (and struck out) so I guess its not a complete benching, but hopefully they're either giving him a mental break and/or working on something with him.

[We Got The Whole 9]

1 minute ago, UMFan83 said:

No Seiya again tonight.  I'm not necessarily clamoring for him but kind of crazy that he's gone from everyday starter to completely off the radar in terms of playing time, not even as a PH.

Fake edit: I guess he did get a PH appearance yesterday when I wasn't paying attention (and struck out) so I guess its not a complete benching, but hopefully they're either giving him a mental break and/or working on something with him.

He's not going to start for the time being. They made that pretty clear in recent statements. He has to work on his swing decisions and his mechanics.

[Derwood]

He's not better at hitting or fielding than any current outfielders, so he's in a tough spot

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I imagine the plan is for him start against LHP, if anyone besides the middle infield or C needs a day off, or if Madrigal or Tauchman get cold.  With the team in the playoff chase there may be a stretch like this where he's not very visible, but I wouldn't be surprised if we add it up at the end of the year and he started more than a third of games post-Candelario trade.

[Cubs420psd]

50 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

No Seiya again tonight.  I'm not necessarily clamoring for him but kind of crazy that he's gone from everyday starter to completely off the radar in terms of playing time, not even as a PH.

Fake edit: I guess he did get a PH appearance yesterday when I wasn't paying attention (and struck out) so I guess its not a complete benching, but hopefully they're either giving him a mental break and/or working on something with him.

From what I've heard it seems like he's only going to start against lefties for the time being.

 

I bet he starts tomorrow.

[chibears55]

1 hour ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

Brown is 

 

1) hurt 

2) barely keeping his era below 5 at AAA

3) completely incapable of throwing strikes consistently

You can make the case that they might look a lot better on this front in a year, and i am sure plenty of people will line up to make that case, but right now the near-majors organizational pitching depth is pretty bad.  There's nobody putting up results at AAA that suggest they are ready to be replacement level starters in an MLB rotation 

I was just spit balling a name, didnt know he was hurt, but it could be Assad, Wesneski,  just someone who can maybe provide them a shot in arm the last month plus in the rotation.

Edited August 8, 2023 by chibears55

[SOFNR]

I like Seiya and hope he can recover soon, but he's the 4th best outfielder on the team right now so he's going to be sitting a lot.

[chibears55]

1 hour ago, UMFan83 said:

No Seiya again tonight.  I'm not necessarily clamoring for him but kind of crazy that he's gone from everyday starter to completely off the radar in terms of playing time, not even as a PH.

Fake edit: I guess he did get a PH appearance yesterday when I wasn't paying attention (and struck out) so I guess its not a complete benching, but hopefully they're either giving him a mental break and/or working on something with him.

Gotta stick with who is hot and helping them win right now while they're going good..

We shouldn't see much of Suzuki or Wisdom until when or if  Tauchman and or Madrigal start to cool off.

[chibears55]

I hope Taillon can give them another good start tonight,  hate to come off winning a big series against a tough team then drop one to one they should beat.

[Derwood]

Tauchman's OPS is now higher than Happ's

[jersey cubs fan]

Keith Hernandez is not happy with this technology delay 

[Derwood]

1 minute ago, jersey cubs fan said:

Keith Hernandez is not happy with this technology delay 

Neither is Boog

[UMFan83]

Carrasco’s ERA over his last 4 starts is 12.33 and he failed to make it through 3 innings in 2 of those starts. Scoreless 1st so far