**Official Trade Deadline Thread**

[JD94]

Can we post all rumors (not just Cubs related) in one thread rather than having to look through multiple threads? 

I’ll start:

https://twitter.com/jonheyman/status/1685403077078093825?s=46&t=iRdezfuJVGBU0wPvMftX0w

[JD94]

Trade is official. Scherzer to the Rangers. He waived his NTC. Still sorting out financials which will determine the prospect return. I imagine Cohen is trying to eat all the money for a better return. 

[JD94]

Looks like Luisangel Acuna (Ronald’s baby bro) is in the deal. Good get for the Mets if true. 

[WhyCantWeWin]

Man all these great prospects just being tossed around. Makes me kinda wish the Cubs would sell. 

[JD94]

1 minute ago, WhyCantWeWin said:

Man all these great prospects just being tossed around. Makes me kinda wish the Cubs would sell. 

Certainly seems like a sellers market. 

[Tryptamine]

Mets eat 34.5 of the remaining 57 million on Scherzer's deal. No wonder they got Acuna.

[Derwood]

 

[JD94]

20 minutes ago, TomtheBombadil said:

Acuna’s run 50% GB and 28% FBs rates in the minors so this is no low risk prospect on offense…Quero sounds like Caratini 2.0 and also is running 50% GBs this year…Korey Lee’s another decent two way prospect that doesn’t hit the sweet spot for where the Cubs are at…White Sox otherwise have gotten reliever prospects(!) and optionable arms in their sell off…Marco Vargas is having a breakout at 18 with a with a .442 SLG in Rk ball….It’s easy to see why selling is for the birds 

I mean they are prospects still developing. Not many are finished products in A/AA. I can see why both are intriguing prospects. Acuna is never going to be a big power hitter, but he will hit, takes his walks, doesn’t strike out much, has 10-15 HR power, will steal 40 bases and play above average defense. Not a bad return for a 39 year old pitcher who is declining fast and owed 43 million next year. You could find something negative about most every prospect if you look hard enough. 
 

Selling is for the birds. If I had faith in this FO to act like the Chicago Cubs and spend real money, then my tone would be different. I don’t trust them to spend like a big market team, so selling is more intriguing to me than it should be. 

[JD94]

25 minutes ago, TomtheBombadil said:

The thing is Cubs are not short on intriguing prospects still developing. If anything they have some tough calls coming soon and over the next couple years 

Agreed. But in my eyes, give me all the intriguing prospects and the ones I don’t need, I’ll trade for what I do need and buy the stars in free agency. I know it’s easier said than done, but it doesn’t feel like we are doing either. Jed shouldn’t have to wait until the “11th hour” to know what he has. If you want to go for it, then get somebody worth a **** that actually makes a difference. If you want to sell, then tear it down and trade everybody that isn’t a part of the future as in Stroman, Bellinger (can still resign him), Gomes, Hendricks/Smyly (if you’re lucky), Fulmer, Merryweather. Don’t stand pat and add CJ Cron and some off the wall middle reliever and call yourself a “buyer” which is what I’m scared is going to happen. 

[SOFNR]

Alonso is definitely intriguing. Seems like a great fit.

[JD94]

No shock here but keeping the rumors updated as I see them 

 

[JD94]

 

[JD94]

1 minute ago, TomtheBombadil said:

This is pretty much where they're at right now, no? Top 10 farm system lauded for it's depth and ranked as high as 2 and 6 by Fannie Mae (Longenhagen) and Freddie Mac (McDaniel), 40 roster crunch starting to force some decisions, and even after loading up on SS prospects (including the next ARod/Machado!) they went into last offseason looking to sign a star SS. It's happening!

I don't know where this CJ Cron stuff is coming from but probably that's not something to be worried about? That's not a rumor or anything

 

I’m saying give me more. That’s more opportunities for a prospect to hit, more opportunities for trade bait, etc. 

 

CJ Cron is just an example… as in that sort of player. Not being literal. 

[JD94]

7 hours ago, TomtheBombadil said:

I mean at some point, like already with the most current ACL featuring an NCAA heavy 2023 draft and A ball MB roster of young infielders that aren't hitting, you're running into a situation in which there's actually fewer opportunities to hit and increase trade value. Isn't there a 180 player cap too?

 

 

Which is why I think they should make a trade to help the big league team for the future. Go get Pete Alonso for example. 

[JD94]

So what’s the path here? Couple bullpen arms and let it ride? What are we going to do at 1B? Mancini needs to go. He’s been god awful. Do they give Mervis another shot? Will they target some patchwork 1B in a trade? Riding with Madrigal at 3rd? The only rumor I’ve seen is the Cubs are now buying and will target bullpen help. 

[Backtobanks]

Cron and Hand together in one deal shouldn't cost much, since neither has much trade value.

[UMFan83]

Another rumor for the Cubs and it’s one weve talked about quite a bit

 

Edited July 30, 2023 by UMFan83

[UMFan83]

Also this might have been mentioned earlier in one of the other threads but

 

[Tryptamine]

2 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Another rumor for the Cubs and it’s one weve talked about quite a bit

 

It just makes so much sense. The problem is that with this market it might cost you a guy like Caissie or Ballesteros which would make me quite sad.

[Tryptamine]

2 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Also this might have been mentioned earlier in one of the other threads but

 

The cost would be enormous, hard pass. 

[JD94]

9 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

It just makes so much sense. The problem is that with this market it might cost you a guy like Caissie or Ballesteros which would make me quite sad.

Yeah the asking price would have to be sky high. Multiple years of control left. Bednar is good, but I’m not giving up Alcantara, Caissie, Wicks, Ferris or any of those guys up for him. 

[Post Count Padder]

Edwin Rios was outrighted off the 40 man so we now have a space open. Bummer that signing didn't work out but so it goes. 

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Bednar is an elite major league reliever with more than half his pre-FA years of control left.

Edited July 30, 2023 by Hairyducked Idiot

[We Got The Whole 9]

2 hours ago, JD94 said:

Yeah the asking price would have to be sky high. Multiple years of control left. Bednar is good, but I’m not giving up Alcantara, Caissie, Wicks, Ferris or any of those guys up for him. 

I think Alcantara certainly should be in play. Theres a pretty slim chance that he ever plays for the Cubs, they need to solve that roster crunch, and he's dripping with tools on a rare physical stature, he should be quite coveted. 

Wicks and Ferris probably aren't going to be enough to headline a deal like that. I do think that Ferris would be quite a secondary piece with his pedigree and easy LH velo at a young age.

 

These are exactly the guys that we should be packaging; guys with high ceilings that probably won't be of major consequence for a few years to our MLB roster. Not crazy about buying a reliever and I'll be less than surprised when he falls off a cliff upon donning the Cubs uniform. But it would fill a huge need and keep the near future intact. The Cubs have the depth to withstand a deal like that easily.

[Rcal10]

12 minutes ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

I think Alcantara certainly should be in play. Theres a pretty slim chance that he ever plays for the Cubs, they need to solve that roster crunch, and he's dripping with tools on a rare physical stature, he should be quite coveted. 

Wicks and Ferris probably aren't going to be enough to headline a deal like that. I do think that Ferris would be quite a secondary piece with his pedigree and easy LH velo at a young age.

 

These are exactly the guys that we should be packaging; guys with high ceilings that probably won't be of major consequence for a few years to our MLB roster. Not crazy about buying a reliever and I'll be less than surprised when he falls off a cliff upon donning the Cubs uniform. But it would fill a huge need and keep the near future intact. The Cubs have the depth to withstand a deal like that easily.

Not for a closer, for me. I would rather see someone like. Cease of Keller. I want a rotation piece if they are going to dip into higher end prospects.