Ohtani to Dodgers for an ungodly amount of money

[ILMindState]

https://twitter.com/mikedeportes/status/1725232330451693840?s=20

 

Not sure how reliable but I recall he was right on a couple things last off-season.

Edited November 16, 2023 by ILMindState

[Jason Ross]

2 minutes ago, ILMindState said:

https://twitter.com/mikedeportes/status/1725232330451693840?s=20

 

Not sure how reliable but I recall he was right on a couple things last off-season.

Mike is the Pepsi to Hector Gomez' Coca-Cola. He was banging the drum on the Cubs and Correa last offseason, and while I do think the Cubs courted him, the reality of how close it was seemed to be quite far from Mike Rodriguez's "reporting". 

Add in how quiet Ohtani's camp is rumored to want this to be, and this feels a bit like Mike trying to jump into this so he can bang a drum at the end of the day if the Cubs sign him. 

[ILMindState]

2 minutes ago, 1908_Cubs said:

is the Pepsi to Hector Gomez' Coca-Cola. He was banging the drum on the Cubs and Correa last offseason, and while I do think the Cubs courted him, the reality of how close it was seemed to be quite far from Mike Rodriguez's "reporting". 

Yeah that sounds about right. I think he was right on one thing but wrong on a lot of others.  Seems to be the type to throw horsefeathers at a wall and hoping something sticks.

[Jason Ross]

1 minute ago, ILMindState said:

Yeah that sounds about right. I think he was right on one thing but wrong on a lot of others.  Seems to be the type to throw horsefeathers at a wall and hoping something sticks.

Both he and Hector Gomez seem to do the same thing. Another way I look at Hector/Mike...they're Spanish speaking Bob Nightengales.

[CubbyBlue2008]

Here is another.

[ILMindState]

The wording on these tweets is just a whole bunch of nothing. Every team interested in Ohtani is planning on making a massive offer.

[CubinNY]

2 minutes ago, ILMindState said:

The wording on these tweets is just a whole bunch of nothing. Every team interested in Ohtani is planning on making a massive offer.

It's not nothing, but how much of something it is we shall see. I mean I remember when Carlos Beltran was there for the taking and the Cubs sat on the sidelines. I'm really happy they are at least saying the right things.

 

[Jason Ross]

29 minutes ago, CubbyBlue2008 said:

Here is another.

Ben Devine does not feel like a legitimate source. He's NFL focused, seems to break no news, and keeps his post vague. His profile states "breaking Chicago news" but that hes a teacher. People who break news dont say they break news...they do it. As a fellow teacher, we dont break news (unless its breaking the news to my kids they have homework). I don't doubt the Cubs are putting together an offer based on what we have heard. I also don't doubt Ben Devine is hoping on sounding legit and is not a source worth monitoring.

Edited November 16, 2023 by 1908_Cubs

[CubbyBlue2008]

2 minutes ago, 1908_Cubs said:

Ben Devine does not feel like a legitimate source. He's NFL focused, seems to break no news, and keeps his post vague. I don't doubt the Cubs are putting together an offer based on what we have heard. I also don't doubt Ben Devine is hoping on sounding legit and is not a source worth monitoring.

I’m a moronic optimist by nature, so I’m gonna believe old Benjamin here.

[Jason Ross]

Just now, CubbyBlue2008 said:

I’m a moronic optimist by nature, so I’m gonna believe old Benjamin here.

Haha hey, fair play to be an optimistic person! If it helps, I also believe the Cubs are going to attempt to sign Ohtani to a real honest contract. I just don't believe Ben lol

[ToolDRT]

24 minutes ago, CubbyBlue2008 said:

I’m a moronic optimist by nature, so I’m gonna believe old Benjamin here.

Same. Also, that’s the point of this time of year; take any remotely credible person and hold them to their word about  Our favorite team 🤣

 

No, but it’s fun to post anything we find and speculate right now. I’m sure many of these people know nothing but they probably no more than us haha

[ILMindState]

1 hour ago, CubinNY said:

It's not nothing, but how much of something it is we shall see. I mean I remember when Carlos Beltran was there for the taking and the Cubs sat on the sidelines. I'm really happy they are at least saying the right things.

 

Ever since Twitter became X people that pay for the blue check mark get money based on interactions with their tweets.  So a whole bunch of nobody's will claim to have sources and say a bunch of nothing just to farm engagement.  This guy and this tweet is a prime example of a whole bunch of nothing. Having a blue checkmark does not make you credible.  It means you are paying for it and driving up engagement on your tweets.

Edited November 16, 2023 by ILMindState

[Dfan25]

David Kaplan follows that Devine guy . I am not saying he is legit , but  if someone like Kaplan follows him , who knows ? Anyway with Ohtani wanting to keep things secret , it’s going to be really boring until he signs . 

[Jason Ross]

I think we are going to have to accept...there will be no leaks here. Also a good way to sus out those who have information and who don't. This likely will be very quiet until the very end.

[JHBulls]

37 minutes ago, 1908_Cubs said:

I think we are going to have to accept...there will be no leaks here. Also a good way to sus out those who have information and who don't. This likely will be very quiet until the very end.

Any good Internet hackers around? My thinking is that if we can hack 29 clubs socials to announce they are after Ohtani, he’s as good as ours. 

Edited November 17, 2023 by JHBulls

[JD94]

47 minutes ago, 1908_Cubs said:

I think we are going to have to accept...there will be no leaks here. Also a good way to sus out those who have information and who don't. This likely will be very quiet until the very end.

Yep. That’s why when Heyman did that interview yesterday and he was saying “LA this” and “blah blah blah” I knew he was just babbling. If you name the Dodgers, Yankees, Mets, Cubs, Padres, and half the league, like he did, odds are you name the team he will choose. 
 

Luckiky though, it doesn’t sound like Ohtani wants this to go much past the winter meetings if at all. So we shouldn’t have to wait too terribly long. 

[Irrelevant Dude]

At some point in the future, when Ohtani can no longer keep up with the load of both hitting and pitching (assuming his arm is healthy), would the logistics of the DH position make it too difficult to use him as a closer?  Losing the DH every time a team inserts their closer certainly wouldn't be ideal.  Does that make him a starter or nothing for the rest of his career?

[Rex Buckingham]

I mean, if a team is bringing him in to close, I'm not sure they would be worried about the DH position at that time. Yeah, he would blow some games, but I'd imagine the 10-12 times a year it doesn't work out wouldn't outweigh the benefits for a good team. 

[itisallpartoftheplan]

If Ohtani wants it quiet then we don’t want to see rumors of Ohtani/Cubs from randos!

[17 Seconds]

10 hours ago, 1908_Cubs said:

I think we are going to have to accept...there will be no leaks here. Also a good way to sus out those who have information and who don't. This likely will be very quiet until the very end.

 

[Brian707]

I will hold out optimism until NoCode shows up here or Ohtani is spotted at a Wrigleyville Starbucks

[Dfan25]

Looks like Mariners are out on Ohtani . 

[Rcal10]

1 hour ago, TomtheBombadil said:

I have no idea if anyone visits the rumors forum but Rogers wrote a thing that implied the Cubs are willing to get their hands dirty for Ohtani and enter a bidding war

I don’t know if this mom and pop shop in Chicago can hang in a bidding war with a San Fran org trying to be relevant for like the second time in a decade or the famously FA friendly Andrew Friedman, but seems promising 

If Ohtani wants to win he won’t go the San Fran. They are always going to be second best or worse in that division. With the Dodgers there, I don’t see them as a sure playoff team year after year. The Cubs could sell him on being a big market in a division where they “should” dominate because they are the only big market. The youth in the way, the money they have and a commitment by ownership/front office to always be the top of the central. Giants cannot make the same claim and promise.

Keep in mind, I am not saying the Cubs will do all they can tell Ohtani they can do. I am just saying they can make that argument. And we all know Ohtani wants to win. The path to winning is clearer in Chicago 

[JD94]

47 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

If Ohtani wants to win he won’t go the San Fran. They are always going to be second best or worse in that division. With the Dodgers there, I don’t see them as a sure playoff team year after year. The Cubs could sell him on being a big market in a division where they “should” dominate because they are the only big market. The youth in the way, the money they have and a commitment by ownership/front office to always be the top of the central. Giants cannot make the same claim and promise.

Keep in mind, I am not saying the Cubs will do all they can tell Ohtani they can do. I am just saying they can make that argument. And we all know Ohtani wants to win. The path to winning is clearer in Chicago 

I agree, but I think it’s been proven that you don’t have to be the Dodgers winning 100+ games and the division each year to be a WS contender. You just have to be a good team that gets hot at the right time. We just watched a WS with 2 wild card teams in it… not the Dodgers, Braves, or Astros. The Phillies went to the WS last year as a Wild Card team. The Nats won it a few years ago as a Wild Card team. Don’t get me wrong, you’d rather be the Dodgers than the Giants or Dbacks hoping to just sneak in the WC and do it that way, but what’s important at the end of the day is just being good enough to get in. 
 

I do think we can sell Ohtani that we are set up to run this division for the foreseeable future. The Brewers are about to take a massive step back. The Pirates aren’t anywhere close. The Cardinals aren’t good right now. The Reds have a few nice young players, but they aren’t a threat. The Cubs however have a solid MLB team as it is, plus a top 3 farm system in baseball, & money to spend. We are far and away in the best position of anybody in the division. 

[Dfan25]

Levine says according to his sources it’s all Cubs - Dodgers for Ohtani . With all the talk about no leaks this makes me a bit nervous but whatever .