2022 Trade Deadline

[CubinNY]

Lol, Cardinals Twitter going apoplectic at the thought of having to give up Carlson and two top prospects for Soto.

[Bertz]

[NOLA]

So they gave up a young slugging OF and their top picking prospect, right?

[Bertz]

[Bertz]

You do kind of have to wonder if a Soto deal pushes Machado out the door this winter. That'd be a pretty interesting alternative to going 10 years on one of the FA shortstops

[Tim]

You do kind of have to wonder if a Soto deal pushes Machado out the door this winter. That'd be a pretty interesting alternative to going 10 years on one of the FA shortstops

Yeah - I don't know that SD has the revenues to pay Tatis, Machado and Soto

[Bertz]

 

Jon's a tier below Passan and Rosenthal, but this seems notable. No hedging at all.

[jersey cubs fan]

 

Jon's a tier below Passan and Rosenthal, but this seems notable. No hedging at all.

“I am very confident” is a hedge.

[Bertz]

 

[Irrelevant Dude]

Who wants to break it to them that Happ can't play CF?

[Bertz]

Who wants to break it to them that Happ can't play CF?

 

I also saw some Braves fans excited about his ability to backup 2B with Albies out. Didn't have the heart to tell them he's a pure LF now.

 

Re: Matt Allan getting a specific mention and a package going to the Jays. If the org is really trying to beef up the high end pitching inventory, something like Tiedemann and Frasso from the Jays and Matt Allan from the Mets would do the trick. It wouldn't be my strategy (I *really* want an MLB-ready bat coming back if we lose Happ) but it'd work value-wise and be consistent with the org's actions the last few weeks.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

 

If the Mets are as bad at understanding leverage as their beat writers, I wonder if this might be a pop-up landing for Willson. I'd much rather be dealing with "lesser" prospects from the Rays org, and there's a few guys even at 50 FV I could see potentially being available due to their various flaws/performance issues(e.g. Mead or Jones). Plus further downstream you can probably shake loose someone like Colby White for instant impact.

[Tim]

So...

 

Contreras + Givens to Tampa

Happ + Robertson + Smyly to Toronto?

 

Those packages should each net a pretty good return.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

So...

 

Contreras + Givens to Tampa

Happ + Robertson + Smyly to Toronto?

 

Those packages should each net a pretty good return.

 

I'm not sure Toronto has enough interesting stuff they'd be willing to give to get Happ + Robertson, never mind Smyly too(though he isn't worth much). Contreras + Robertson would be an exciting combo to head to Tampa given their farm, and if Toronto is willing to get there on Happ adding on Smyly could help get over the top on a preferred target.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Brett Phillips got DFA'd as a roster casualty of the Mancini deal, I kinda wouldn't mind giving him a shot at some OF PA. He can play a legitimate CF(unlike basically everyone on the current roster) and if the bat doesn't work in a new org then you can non-tender him if you like.

 

I was going to post pretty much the same...LHH too fwtw

 

[Tryptamine]

Jorge Lopez going to the Twins. That should be a good haul for Baltimore.

[Derwood]

Deadline day is very frustrating to follow when you’re 6 hours ahead of the EST. I keep wondering why there’s no news and then have to remind myself that it’s not even noon yet

[Transmogrified Tiger]

 

Sobering return in comparison to the value Robertson/Givens have, all the more reason to do at least one combo deal now.

[Tryptamine]

 

Sobering return in comparison to the value Robertson/Givens have, all the more reason to do at least one combo deal now.

 

Yeah, I'm not super up to date on what those guys have done so far this year, but if we're basing it on the preseason reports then, ouch.

[Tim]

Brett Phillips got DFA'd as a roster casualty of the Mancini deal, I kinda wouldn't mind giving him a shot at some OF PA. He can play a legitimate CF(unlike basically everyone on the current roster) and if the bat doesn't work in a new org then you can non-tender him if you like.

 

I was going to post pretty much the same...LHH too fwtw

 

Other than being a LHH true CF, can you sell me on Phillips? 40% strikeout rate, not a ton of power, not a ton of speed.

[sneakypower]

he adds a bullpen arm

[Outshined_One]

Other than being a LHH true CF, can you sell me on Phillips?

 

That's pretty much it. He ticks two boxes on team needs, but he should only be considered a possibility as a throw-in, rather than a primary or secondary piece.

[CubinNY]

Willy to the Rays rumors heating up.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

 

I was going to post pretty much the same...LHH too fwtw

 

Other than being a LHH true CF, can you sell me on Phillips? 40% strikeout rate, not a ton of power, not a ton of speed.

 

He's elite in CF(UZR says +11, Statcast says +15), and he has pop in his bat(.160 IsoP that was even higher before this year). He hasn't shown the hit tool to be a regular but you don't even have to hit .250 with those skills and this run environment to be a borderline starter. Plus he fits the current and likely future roster well that is heavy on RH OF but light on LH OF and has no surefire CF. But ultimately this is appealing in a similar way that Dom Smith is appealing, if you can get him for nearly free then you can see a path to it working out well, but it's a flyer that you don't change your plans around.

[Post Count Padder]

If we do a big deal with Toronto anyone think Danny Jansen as part of the return given the presence of Kirk and Moreno? We lack a good catcher in the upper minors with Amaya a question mark.