MLB Imposes 60 Game Season, Spring Training 2.0 Starts in 7 Days

[Cubswin11]

I think my ideal lineups with the DH are (knowing they’re doing KB-Rizzo 1-2).

 

Vs RHP:

 

1. KB 3B

2. Rizzo 1B

3. Schwarbs LF

4. Javy SS

5. Heyward RF

6. Willy C

7. Kipnis DH

8. Nico 2B

9. Happ CF

 

Vs LHP:

 

1. KB LF

2. Rizzo 1B

3. Javy SS

4. Willy DH

5. Bote 3B

6. Vic C

7. Souza RF

8. Nico 2B

9. Happ CF

[David]

I think my ideal lineups with the DH are (knowing they’re doing KB-Rizzo 1-2).

 

Vs RHP:

 

1. KB 3B

2. Rizzo 1B

3. Schwarbs LF

4. Javy SS

5. Heyward RF

6. Willy C

7. Kipnis DH

8. Nico 2B

9. Happ CF

 

Vs LHP:

 

1. KB LF

2. Rizzo 1B

3. Javy SS

4. Willy DH

5. Bote 3B

6. Vic C

7. Souza RF

8. Nico 2B

9. Happ CF

 

oh my god i completely forgot that we're going bryzzo at the top. seems like so long ago. hell yes, these lineups fornicate.

[squally1313]

I think my ideal lineups with the DH are (knowing they’re doing KB-Rizzo 1-2).

 

Vs RHP:

 

1. KB 3B

2. Rizzo 1B

3. Schwarbs LF

4. Javy SS

5. Heyward RF

6. Willy C

7. Kipnis DH

8. Nico 2B

9. Happ CF

 

Vs LHP:

 

1. KB LF

2. Rizzo 1B

3. Javy SS

4. Willy DH

5. Bote 3B

6. Vic C

7. Souza RF

8. Nico 2B

9. Happ CF

 

oh my god i completely forgot that we're going bryzzo at the top. seems like so long ago. hell yes, these lineups fornicate.

 

Happ seems criminally underutilized in the 9 spot, but beyond that I'm too rusty to put together my own just yet. Also I know AL teams are generally hesitant to use a catcher in the DH spot unless they are carrying three catchers, as much as I like the idea of getting Willson out from behind the plate. Not sure what the roster rules are for this year, might be pretty easy to pick up/carry a third one.

[Cubswin11]

I think my ideal lineups with the DH are (knowing they’re doing KB-Rizzo 1-2).

 

Vs RHP:

 

1. KB 3B

2. Rizzo 1B

3. Schwarbs LF

4. Javy SS

5. Heyward RF

6. Willy C

7. Kipnis DH

8. Nico 2B

9. Happ CF

 

Vs LHP:

 

1. KB LF

2. Rizzo 1B

3. Javy SS

4. Willy DH

5. Bote 3B

6. Vic C

7. Souza RF

8. Nico 2B

9. Happ CF

 

oh my god i completely forgot that we're going bryzzo at the top. seems like so long ago. hell yes, these lineups fornicate.

 

Happ seems criminally underutilized in the 9 spot, but beyond that I'm too rusty to put together my own just yet. Also I know AL teams are generally hesitant to use a catcher in the DH spot unless they are carrying three catchers, as much as I like the idea of getting Willson out from behind the plate. Not sure what the roster rules are for this year, might be pretty easy to pick up/carry a third one.

2nd leadoff hitter with the OBP for when KB/Rizzo come back around, has contact guys in front of him that are behind OBP guys and we aren’t stacking all the lower contact guys in order with him 9. But anywhere from 7-9 I’m cool with him hitting in most lineups. I’m almost certain we (and most other teams) will carry 3 catchers with the expanded rosters as I’ve seen the expanded roster talk, think that would be Phagley for us. It makes a lot of sense to get Willy DH time to keep him fresh and since Vic is more than capable and better with framing.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

top of my head, I think I'd go

 

v RHP

 

KB

Rizzo

Baez

Schwarber

Contreras

Heyward

Happ

Caratini

Hoerner

 

v LHP

 

KB

Rizzo

Baez

Contreras

Souza

Bote

Schwarber

Almora

Hoerner

 

I could probably be talked into Kipnis over Hoerner against RHP or Caratini over Schwarber v. LHP, and that would assume there's a third catcher lowering the risk of constantly having 2 in the lineup.

[squally1313]

 

oh my god i completely forgot that we're going bryzzo at the top. seems like so long ago. hell yes, these lineups fornicate.

 

Happ seems criminally underutilized in the 9 spot, but beyond that I'm too rusty to put together my own just yet. Also I know AL teams are generally hesitant to use a catcher in the DH spot unless they are carrying three catchers, as much as I like the idea of getting Willson out from behind the plate. Not sure what the roster rules are for this year, might be pretty easy to pick up/carry a third one.

2nd leadoff hitter with the OBP for when KB/Rizzo come back around, has contact guys in front of him that are behind OBP guys and we aren’t stacking all the lower contact guys in order with him 9. But anywhere from 7-9 I’m cool with him hitting in most lineups. I’m almost certain we (and most other teams) will carry 3 catchers with the expanded rosters as I’ve seen the expanded roster talk, think that would be Phagley for us. It makes a lot of sense to get Willy DH time to keep him fresh and since Vic is more than capable and better with framing.

Forgot about Phegley, good call. Still think Happ should be a little higher (Heyward in the 5 spot against RHPs really doesn't look right to me), but can see your arguments too.

[UMFan83]

 

Definitely some strategic changes that we’d have to work through. Are there any fast dudes that are in our system or currently are FAs? Every team should have a fast dude that can play adequate defense. The last out of the 9th is replaced on defense for the top of the 10th and that person I’m assuming will be on 2nd base in the bottom of the inning.

 

Edit: I feel like I sound like Dusty calling them “fast dudes”

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I'm not sure there's all that big an advantage to the runner on 2nd being particularly fast. If they're so fast they're going to be a difference maker then they have to be excellent odds to steal 2nd if they got in in the 9th. Even a .275 OBP with 80% odds stealing 2nd and 30% odds of driving him in is a 7% chance of scoring w/ 2 outs, none on in the 9th. Not sure the odds of scoring go up 7% in the 10th with that guy on 2nd v. someone else considering they're there with no outs.

 

As an aside, this is why if you're going to put runners on base to start the inning, a single runner on 2nd is dumb since it encourages a singular outcome(1 run) that persists the tie. Load the bases with no outs and you have a flatter bell curve of outcomes and you're more likely to break the tie.

[squally1313]

I'm not sure there's all that big an advantage to the runner on 2nd being particularly fast. If they're so fast they're going to be a difference maker then they have to be excellent odds to steal 2nd if they got in in the 9th. Even a .275 OBP with 80% odds stealing 2nd and 30% odds of driving him in is a 7% chance of scoring w/ 2 outs, none on in the 9th. Not sure the odds of scoring go up 7% in the 10th with that guy on 2nd v. someone else considering they're there with no outs.

 

As an aside, this is why if you're going to put runners on base to start the inning, a single runner on 2nd is dumb since it encourages a singular outcome(1 run) that persists the tie. Load the bases with no outs and you have a flatter bell curve of outcomes and you're more likely to break the tie.

Stealing TT's opinions to use in my group chats....it really is starting to seem like baseball season again!

[UMFan83]

I'm not sure there's all that big an advantage to the runner on 2nd being particularly fast. If they're so fast they're going to be a difference maker then they have to be excellent odds to steal 2nd if they got in in the 9th. Even a .275 OBP with 80% odds stealing 2nd and 30% odds of driving him in is a 7% chance of scoring w/ 2 outs, none on in the 9th. Not sure the odds of scoring go up 7% in the 10th with that guy on 2nd v. someone else considering they're there with no outs.

 

As an aside, this is why if you're going to put runners on base to start the inning, a single runner on 2nd is dumb since it encourages a singular outcome(1 run) that persists the tie. Load the bases with no outs and you have a flatter bell curve of outcomes and you're more likely to break the tie.

 

Fair points. I guess the fun will be seeing some manager way overthink it like this *cough Dusty* and lead to situations where he's pulling his best hitters for pinch runners in extra innings.

[Sosa21MVP]

So...is there going to be a universal DH this season then?

[Andy]

So...is there going to be a universal DH this season then?

Yes. It would appear all the things that were in the rejected agreement are happening anyway except for the 16-team playoffs.

[stitchface]

I'm not sure there's all that big an advantage to the runner on 2nd being particularly fast. If they're so fast they're going to be a difference maker then they have to be excellent odds to steal 2nd if they got in in the 9th. Even a .275 OBP with 80% odds stealing 2nd and 30% odds of driving him in is a 7% chance of scoring w/ 2 outs, none on in the 9th. Not sure the odds of scoring go up 7% in the 10th with that guy on 2nd v. someone else considering they're there with no outs.

 

As an aside, this is why if you're going to put runners on base to start the inning, a single runner on 2nd is dumb since it encourages a singular outcome(1 run) that persists the tie. Load the bases with no outs and you have a flatter bell curve of outcomes and you're more likely to break the tie.

 

I would think it would tilt home field advantage.

[David]

So...is there going to be a universal DH this season then?

Yes. It would appear all the things that were in the rejected agreement are happening anyway except for the 16-team playoffs.

 

 

The universal DH for this year was agreed to a long time ago. I think the justification had something to do with having fewer reasons to burn through a pitching staff with the complications this season presents.

 

The universal DH for 2021 is what we lost (unless that has since changed today and I missed that).

[ChiCubsFan]

I was a proponent for expanded playoffs with such a short season, but oh well.

[David]

How did the 2016 team do through 60 games?

 

Just curious, and too lazy to try to look it up right now

[UMFan83]

How did the 2016 team do through 60 games?

 

Just curious, and too lazy to try to look it up right now

 

I shouldn't reward such sheer laziness lol, but 42-18. I have to assume that this was their best 60 game stretch of the year too given the 25-6 start.

[David]

How did the 2016 team do through 60 games?

 

Just curious, and too lazy to try to look it up right now

 

I shouldn't reward such sheer laziness lol, but 42-18. I have to assume that this was their best 60 game stretch of the year too given the 25-6 start.

 

It was more than just sheer laziness. I was at a stoplight and I knew I could always count on you for something like this lol

[jersey cubs fan]

How did the 2016 team do through 60 games?

 

Just curious, and too lazy to try to look it up right now

 

I shouldn't reward such sheer laziness lol, but 42-18. I have to assume that this was their best 60 game stretch of the year too given the 25-6 start.

 

It was more than just sheer laziness. I was at a stoplight and I knew I could always count on you for something like this lol

You typed two separate sentences including punctuation in a stoplight post?

 

Put the phone down you negligent homicidal maniac.

[David]

 

I shouldn't reward such sheer laziness lol, but 42-18. I have to assume that this was their best 60 game stretch of the year too given the 25-6 start.

 

It was more than just sheer laziness. I was at a stoplight and I knew I could always count on you for something like this lol

You typed two separate sentences including punctuation in a stoplight post?

 

Put the phone down you negligent homicidal maniac.

 

lmao. voice to text. that's why there's actually some capitalization and stuff.

[David]

does anyone think the cubs might try to run the rooftops?

 

can they pass it off as a bar/restaurant and run it under those guidelines?

[Cubswin11]

[Sosa21MVP]

So...is there going to be a universal DH this season then?

Yes. It would appear all the things that were in the rejected agreement are happening anyway except for the 16-team playoffs.

 

Cool. Thank you for confirming. :hello:

[Bertz]

does anyone think the cubs might try to run the rooftops?

 

can they pass it off as a bar/restaurant and run it under those guidelines?

 

I would imagine so. I believe I saw that if Chicago stays in Phase 4 Wrigley can operate at 20% capacity. I think the big question would be whether the rooftops would be treated like an extension of Wrigley or like you said like a bar/restaurant.

[Brian]

does anyone think the cubs might try to run the rooftops?

 

can they pass it off as a bar/restaurant and run it under those guidelines?

 

I could be off in my thinking but I'd imagine they'd be running at a loss or just barely a profit to run them at such a low capacity. May be more profitable to run the season off as a total loss due to some sort of super rich people write off or insurance claim.