Week 6: Saints at Bears Sunday at 3:25 (2weeks2stew)

[UMFan83]

Tim I finally cave. The Bears do not have an elite running game

[jersey cubs fan]

 

[gflore34]

Since were stuck with this crap at QB can anything be done? Some kind of a gimmick offense? Go to no huddle full time? Sometimes I don't understand what Mitch is waiting for on some throws, late in the first half, he holds on to the ball forever then, decides to try dumping it Cohen. He's got know, with this line, he's got little to no time and must get rid of the ball quickly. Just how horsefeathering stupid is he?

[UMFan83]

 

 

Number of Bears FG attempts that have hit a goal post: 0

 

I call that a winning offseason

[gflore34]

Let me start off by saying Trubisky is terrible and shouldn't be starting...

 

But is 54 pass attempts vs SEVEN rushes a recipe for success for ANY QB in ANY game, let alone a young one coming back from an injury?

 

This season's struggles are more on the coaching staff than they are on the QB, and given how bad the QB is... That's saying something

 

1) you have to pass when you are losing

 

2) you should pass even when you aren’t losing because passing is awesome and running is irrelevant in the current NFL

 

They didn't try to establish the running game, with this stupid horsefeathers of a QB, why wouldn't you try to run the ball?

[raw]

The fun part is that they have no real ability to change directions for at least a couple of years. It’s just gonna be progressively worse, less hopeful versions of this.

Yep. Been saying this. Mitch is the QB this and next year. Don't have the money or picks to get anyone better for 2020.

 

Best hope is Nagy man's up and gives Helfrich playcalling duties, and he turns out to be a genius. But this is what the Bears have to work with for the next 26 games minus some minor tweaks. Best case is one minor tweak becomes a major change.

 

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[NOLA]

I know that I should duck and cover after this, but maybe the Saints defense, especially the run defense, is elite and judging Trubisky on his first week back against this team isn’t a fair assessment? I mean, there was no running room in the first half. Great D line vs a shitty O line.

[gflore34]

I know that I should duck and cover after this, but maybe the Saints defense, especially the run defense, is elite and judging Trubisky on his first week back against this team isn’t a fair assessment? I mean, there was no running room in the first half. Great D line vs a horsefeathers O line.

 

Maybe but, give up after a handful of attempts?

[OleMissCub]

I know that I should duck and cover after this, but maybe the Saints defense, especially the run defense, is elite and judging Trubisky on his first week back against this team isn’t a fair assessment? I mean, there was no running room in the first half. Great D line vs a horsefeathers O line.

 

They watch him more than we do. He’s not been good this year. He’s near the very bottom this year in passer rating.

[Derwood]

7 rushing attempts. Wow, just.....wow

[raw]

7 rushing attempts. Wow, just.....wow

 

Fewest in the history of the franchise.

[Sosa21MVP]

Our offense is more and more reminding me of Gary Crowton's offense during Dick Jauron's 1st year.

[UMFan83]

I know that I should duck and cover after this, but maybe the Saints defense, especially the run defense, is elite and judging Trubisky on his first week back against this team isn’t a fair assessment? I mean, there was no running room in the first half. Great D line vs a horsefeathers O line.

 

I’m sorry are you fishing for praise? Yes the Saints defense is very good. Mitch has sucked all season against all types of defenses. And the Bears had a really awesome defense last year and I don’t remember them holding any teams to under 100 yards of offense until garbage time.

[UMFan83]

I still have no idea why they thought it was a good idea to go into the season with a 3rd round rookie and a fast but undersized change of pace guy as your 2 leading backs. I mean look at Latavius Murray. He’s getting less than $2m this year and would be a great fit for the offense.

 

I know the Saints line is way better and the Bears line has been awful but you haven’t seen ANY runs broken by Bears RBs this year. Even with a bad line, with a talented back they are occasionally going to break off a long run. For the Bears a long run is like 6 yards. Just don’t get it...

[NOLA]

I know that I should duck and cover after this, but maybe the Saints defense, especially the run defense, is elite and judging Trubisky on his first week back against this team isn’t a fair assessment? I mean, there was no running room in the first half. Great D line vs a horsefeathers O line.

 

I’m sorry are you fishing for praise? Yes the Saints defense is very good. Mitch has sucked all season against all types of defenses. And the Bears had a really awesome defense last year and I don’t remember them holding any teams to under 100 yards of offense until garbage time.

Nope. I’m saying maybe him coming off injury and facing a good D that it’s not as gloomy as you guys are posting. Good luck to you and I hope you trash the Packers when you play them.

[TMan92]

I know that I should duck and cover after this, but maybe the Saints defense, especially the run defense, is elite and judging Trubisky on his first week back against this team isn’t a fair assessment? I mean, there was no running room in the first half. Great D line vs a horsefeathers O line.

 

I’m sorry are you fishing for praise? Yes the Saints defense is very good. Mitch has sucked all season against all types of defenses. And the Bears had a really awesome defense last year and I don’t remember them holding any teams to under 100 yards of offense until garbage time.

Nope. I’m saying maybe him coming off injury and facing a good D that it’s not as gloomy as you guys are posting. Good luck to you and I hope you trash the Packers when you play them.

 

Stupid is as stupid does. I would love to see his draft intelligence test because the guy seems like a complete rock head.

[Bertz]

I know that I should duck and cover after this, but maybe the Saints defense, especially the run defense, is elite and judging Trubisky on his first week back against this team isn’t a fair assessment? I mean, there was no running room in the first half. Great D line vs a horsefeathers O line.

 

The Saints were 14th in defensive DVOA enteringthis week, so that's not it.

 

Guys are allowed to have bad weeks, but Trubisky has played in 4 games this year and looked really bad in three of them. The other was against the horrid Redskins.

[jersey cubs fan]

I’m wondering how many “you can’t judge him on this game alone” games Mitch will have before people realize he’s just a bad qb.

[raw]

I still have no idea why they thought it was a good idea to go into the season with a 3rd round rookie and a fast but undersized change of pace guy as your 2 leading backs. I mean look at Latavius Murray. He’s getting less than $2m this year and would be a great fit for the offense.

 

I know the Saints line is way better and the Bears line has been awful but you haven’t seen ANY runs broken by Bears RBs this year. Even with a bad line, with a talented back they are occasionally going to break off a long run. For the Bears a long run is like 6 yards. Just don’t get it...

 

Hard to break a run, when you don't get the ball. And it doesn't matter who the RBs are if they get the ball a combined 5 times. Broken runs typically happen late in the game, when the OL can wear a DL down. The only "broken" run by a RB this year was Montgomery for 25 yards against Washington.....late in the game when the Bears O was on the field a bunch.

[gflore34]

I’m wondering how many “you can’t judge him on this game alone” games Mitch will have before people realize he’s just a bad qb.

 

He's terrible but, Nagy may be worse, he's not putting him a position to succeed. As terrible as Mitch is, there a few things he does well, Nagy' got to leverage those things, give him a chance to succeed.

[raw]

Good news is that the Bears still mostly control their own fate for a playoff spot. They are 1/2 game behind the Rams, who they play. 1.5 behind the Vikings, who they already beat. A game behind Carolina though, who they won't see. And the last time the Bears were 3-3, they went on to win 9 of their last 10 including 8-0 from a Trubisky led team.

 

Bad news is that the defense is missing Hicks. Guys like Floyd, Smith, Jackson and Fuller have disappeared after great years last season. Their offensive head coach has the only offense in the league that has yet to hit 300 yards of total offense in any game this year and shows 0 signs of improvement and actually has regressed from last year's mediocrity.

[raw]

I’m wondering how many “you can’t judge him on this game alone” games Mitch will have before people realize he’s just a bad qb.

 

He's terrible but, Nagy may be worse, he's not putting him a position to succeed. As terrible as Mitch is, there a few things he does well, Nagy' got to leverage those things, give him a chance to succeed.

 

I agree to some extent. But there have been times he's schemed up open guys and either Mitch doesn't see them or he throws it nowhere near Taylor Gabriel yesterday. Then there are other times on 3rd and 2 where Nagy has an empty backfield and 4 WRs doing 2-yard curls and only 1 WR option is a slot fade where he expects the WR to not only beat his man but for his inconsistent QB to drop one over the top for his WR to run into with a window that requires near perfection.

[jersey cubs fan]

I’m wondering how many “you can’t judge him on this game alone” games Mitch will have before people realize he’s just a bad qb.

 

He's terrible but, Nagy may be worse, he's not putting him a position to succeed. As terrible as Mitch is, there a few things he does well, Nagy' got to leverage those things, give him a chance to succeed.

The one thing he does well is maybe make something out of a broken play on occasion. You can’t scheme that. He had open receivers and missed them, again and again. He can’t think and he can’t hit open guys. He had made zero strides. Maybe that’s on Nagy a bit, but these are not out of nowhere concerns with Mitch. There’s a very good chance no coach could polish this turd. A little razzle dazzle got them to 10 wins, but that may be the high water mark.

[Old Style]

I’m wondering how many “you can’t judge him on this game alone” games Mitch will have before people realize he’s just a bad qb.

 

He's terrible but, Nagy may be worse, he's not putting him a position to succeed. As terrible as Mitch is, there a few things he does well, Nagy' got to leverage those things, give him a chance to succeed.

Nagy is this team's biggest problem followed closely by the OL and Trubisky.

[Outshined_One]

I saw a comment on the latest Deadspin article on Patterson's run back, which made me realize just how damn familiar the comments in this thread seem to me:

 

So let’s talk about how time is a flat circle:

 

In the last almost 20 years, every Bears team has been functionally the same team. The variance between them is entirely based on whether the defense is great or merely good, whether the quarterback is inept or mediocre, and how many points their special teams can score for them. This sounds like nearly every NFL team in this time period but the consistency of these particular variables has led to a 147-147 record since the “miracle” 2001 season. And that these variables are so tightly defined- the quarterback has never been great, the defense has only had a couple of outright bad seasons, they couldn’t kick a field goal last year- makes it seem like you are literally watching the same team with the same players in 2004 during yesterday’s game. 13-3 seasons offset by 6-10 ones. A lot of Jeff Fischer Specials. It’s not even that they aren’t TRYING to adapt; Nagy should theoretically be able to break this cycle and maybe produce a team that wins shootouts regularly. But no, that can’t happen to this franchise. Instead it’s the same song every horsefeathering year.

 

Every.

 

horsefeathering.

 

Year.

 

I miss Jay.

 

Looking through this thread, I feel like I've read people say the exact same QB comments on Grossman, Cutler, and Orton and the exact same HC comments on Jauron, Lovie, and Trestman over the last 18 years.

 

This team is never going to break the mold, is it?