Chicago Bears offseason

[Butterscup]

So the Bears did a sim game last night and there was a fight where Kyle Long ripped off a defensive lineman's (Jalen Dalton) helmet, swung it in the melee and then threw it down the field.

 

you're leaving out the only good part of the story, which is when after throwing the helmet down the field Long went to the sideline and vomitted multiple times.

 

Long is a douche and I agree with goony that cutting ties after this year makes way more sense, but the visual of that entire scene is very funny to me.

[jersey cubs fan]

So the Bears did a sim game last night and there was a fight where Kyle Long ripped off a defensive lineman's (Jalen Dalton) helmet, swung it in the melee and then threw it down the field.

 

you're leaving out the only good part of the story, which is when after throwing the helmet down the field Long went to the sideline and vomitted multiple times.

 

Long is a douche and I agree with goony that cutting ties after this year makes way more sense, but the visual of that entire scene is very funny to me.

Apparently the Bears kept him home from the Giants game.

[Wilson A2000]

So the Bears did a sim game last night and there was a fight where Kyle Long ripped off a defensive lineman's (Jalen Dalton) helmet, swung it in the melee and then threw it down the field.

 

for horsefeathers sake Kyle what is wrong with you??

 

The sim game sounds interesting, the next step in Nagy's war on the preseason. They did all the pre-game stuff (intro music etc.), did the air raid siren for defense. Scripted pretty much a whole game had defense do a 10 play series, go to the sidelines than have a simulated turnover and the defense had to come right back out and do another 8 plays.

 

(p.s. all my info came from The Athletic, sign up for The Athletic the Bears guys are great.)

 

Long has been in fights before, but I thought I heard something that he was mad that someone blocked him and could have caused him an injury on a interception or a fumble. Wonder if Kyle was mad that a teammate could have injured him.

[David]

Sounds like Cedric Benson was killed in a motorcycle accident last night. Damn.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Sounds like Cedric Benson was killed in a motorcycle accident last night. Damn.

 

Yup. Im not a motorcyclist, but it is such a hard reminder of how dangerous they can be.

 

 

Rip Benson

[UK]

He very quietly did great things with his charity after his playing days were over.

[MidoreX]

According to NBC Sports, the Bears have released Fry. I'm still guessing they sign a kicker from another team over Piniero before the season starts.

[UK]

According to NBC Sports, the Bears have released Fry. I'm still guessing they sign a kicker from another team over Piniero before the season starts.

Just sign Bryant and be done with it. However, I like that K from LSU.

[WrigleyField 22]

According to NBC Sports, the Bears have released Fry. I'm still guessing they sign a kicker from another team over Piniero before the season starts.

Just sign Bryant and be done with it. However, I like that K from LSU.

I doubt it's gonna be Bryant. He would have been brought in at this point. Hell, he may even just be waiting for a domed team to call even if the Bears called.

 

It could be one of the various teams that still has a K competition ongoing though. At least if someone good doesn't get cut though they are getting Pineiro all the reps at this point though.

[raw]

My guess at 53-man roster:

 

QB (2)- Trubisky, Daniel.

 

No-brainer. Bray had a shot, and granted it's been w/ guys that aren't making the team, but he's been trash in games. A lot of Bears fans hate Daniel, but he's exactly what a backup QB is. A dude that knows the offense and can help by communicating well w/ the starter. But also a dude that you never want to actually play. If he does have to play, see last year. Short passes, gimmick plays, letting Cohen throw the ball. No reason to care about the #2 QB.

 

RB (4)- Cohen, Montgomery, Davis, Whyte Jr.

 

Top 3 set in stone. The 4th comes down to draft pick, Whyte vs. a UDFA, Nall. Whyte has uncoachable speed, and Nall can likely be kept on the practice squad. Outside chance of all 5 kept. Bears kept Howard, Cohen, Cunningham, Mizzell (as a RB), and Mike Burton (as a FB) last year.

 

WR (6)- Robinson, Miller, Gabriel, Patterson, Wims, Ridley

 

Marvin Hall has a shot to make the team, but he's not much of a route runner and didn't look like a good option to return kicks as a backup either. I honestly would dangle Wims as a potential trade target. If the Bears can get a potential guy for the pass rush rotation for their 5th WR, I'd gladly make that trade.

 

TE (4)- Burton, Shaheen, Braunecker, Sowell

 

Bears have some potential sleepers here in Ian Bunting, Dax Raymond, and Jesper Horstead, but all project as better receivers than blockers now and in the future. Sowell makes the team as he's the only of the 4 that can block adequately. 2 of the 3 above probably go to the practice squad.

 

OL (9)- Leno, Whitehair, Daniels, Long, Massie, Larsen, Coward, Bars, Clemmings

 

Starting 5 pretty well set. Larsen has the ability to back up OG or C so he's the 6th. Bars has been strong thru 2 preseason games, and is too talented to try to pass thru waivers. Kept a 2nd backup tackle because IDK Coward's status w/ the elbow injury. But if he can go, the 9th lineman would be a prime cut candidate when you need someone at another position. Would also watch for a released player as a swing tackle. Coward didn't look great week 1 of preseason.

 

DL (5)- Hicks, Goldman, Robertson-Harris, Nichols, Bullard

 

Top 4 are a great group, set in stone. Bullard probably stays as he does provide a decent rep or two per game inside, though not the best fit. I know they like Nick Williams too, but I elected to keep an extra DB over him for special teams reasons. If they could find a taker for Bullard for a 7th or for another player at the end of their roster, I think they'd do it.

 

OLB (4)- Mack, Floyd, Lynch, Irving

 

Not a deep position. Don't like the 4th and the 3rd has had health issues in the past. Good thing the best edge in the league is here. James Vaughters has looked good in the preseason, but more of a practice squad to me at this point. Fitts looks mostly talentless and shouldn't make the team just because he was drafted late last year.

 

ILB (5)- Trevathan, Smith, Igeyibuniwe, Woods, Pierre-Louis

 

Kwiatkoski is a FA after this year, and got a raise to 2Mil this year due to arbitrator ruling. He's not worth the money, as he can't be put on the defense. Can't cover at all. Woods is a former safety w/ athletic upside. Pierre-Louis is a better special teamer who's cheaper than Nick Kwit.

 

CB (6)- Fuller, Amukamara, Skrine, Shelley, Toliver, Franklin III

 

The Bears actually have some interesting guys competing for that 6th CB spot. Franklin, Joseph and Duck. The competition's losers are both practice squad possibilities. Franklin gets the edge for me because of his speed and probably projects as the best special teamer of the 3. Not sure how much Denmark has practiced, but looks like potential IR stash. Definitely shouldn't make the roster just because he was drafted.

 

S (5)- Jackson, Clinton-Dix, Bush, McManis, Houston-Carson

 

McManis and DHC both make it here for special teams. McManis has the versatility to play nickel, so he stays. DHC could be the odd man out if they elect to go with an extra player at another position. 4 of 5 are FAs after this year, so no long-term help here and nothing really worthy of a practice squad spot.

 

ST- Pineiro, O'Donnell, Scales

 

Obviously just cut Fry yesterday. I liked Pineiro better anyway. Accuracy seems to be similar, go with the bigger leg. Maybe bring in another guy here, but I think they might as well develop what they already have instead of someone else's cast off.

[Brian]

Not unexpected but a Whitehair extension is probably right around the corner.

 

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[jersey cubs fan]

[UMFan83]

Me reading all the other "Why Your Teams Suck" entries vs. me reading today's Bears entry:

 

[Butterscup]

no one.

[CyHawk_Cub]

Counterpoint:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Totally kidding as I know jackshit about the NFL these days.

[Rex Buckingham]

As a Bears fan, the team that scares me the most in the NFC is the Bears.

[We Got The Whole 9]

NFL is just fucked up. Teams flip-flop all the time. 2007 is a perfect example: injuries and regression from Rex, Ron Rivera left and Bob Babich couldnt stop a nosebleed, Benson wasn't the bellcow we hoped he was, Adrian Peterson, etc.

 

I believe we have a more well-rounded core this time but if Mitch stagnates then those close wins could become losses, theres similarities with the DC switch again, new RB, etc.

[Brian]

Adam Hoge deep dived every 2018 Trubisky pass

 

https://wgnradio.com/2019/08/25/hoge-what-i-learned-from-watching-every-pass-mitch-trubisky-threw-in-2018/

[Hairyducked Idiot]

This bears season is scary because the last few years have been structured for a window that was pretty much last year and this year. It gets dicey fast as you look into the future.

[WrigleyField 22]

This bears season is scary because the last few years have been structured for a window that was pretty much last year and this year. It gets dicey fast as you look into the future.

I think Pace just converted more roster bonuses to signing bonuses (or some shenanigans) last week. Speculated that would be for a Whitehair extension.

 

So hes trying his damnedest to extend that window another year or two past this year, which inevitably comes at a price at some point. But if he can keep finding loose change in the couch cushions before Trubisky is a top 5 paid player for a few years, its probably the right move.

[Brian]

nothing gets the blood pumping in Kyle's doom boner more than thinking about closing windows

[Hairyducked Idiot]

nothing gets the blood pumping in Kyle's doom boner more than thinking about closing windows

 

The only reason I like seeing them open is so they can close

[raw]

This bears season is scary because the last few years have been structured for a window that was pretty much last year and this year. It gets dicey fast as you look into the future.

 

This is much less true if Trubisky is legit, but yeah it does seem like teams that built a comparably dominant defence without a stud QB get a two year window. The first year is usually the bigger year for the defense too...OTOH I'm basing this mostly off the 2009 Jets who became the less dominant but very very slightly more balanced 2010 Jets, but I feel like this happened to the early 2000s Ravens too with them managing to pull out a SB win and then land Suggs in 2003

 

Yeah, on one hand, if Trubisky is even a slightly better Alex Smith (and Nagy similar to his mentor, Andy Reid), then the Bears window could be open for a decent amount of seasons (although it's debatable about how wide that window is open without a GREAT QB). On the other, the Bears have a lot of money tied into the defense (and soon to add Jackson), which will almost certainly get them in trouble as that's where performance can fall off after prime years.

[Chocolate Milk]

if Trubisky is even a slightly better Alex Smith

I always thought this was an interesting comp for Trubisky. Like a premium Alex Smith.

[We Got The Whole 9]

I could potentially see Bars replacing Massie after next year. It could be him or maybe Long also. I trust Pace and Hiestand to identify and develop the OL enough to believe they could replace both. Some of that money saved will be spent on Whitehair though.

 

Hopefully Gabriel, Miller, Ridley, Wims is enough to move on from Robinson's money then as well. Hell maybe we get lucky and they make Gabriel expendable too.

 

I'm also hoping Tolliver develops into a starter in place of Prince.

 

Extending Floyd could prove costly to that window. Hes already getting 13 next year and I know hes a solid all around player but I dont know that hes worth that price let alone an extension.

 

Trey Burton was a no-show for much of the 2nd half of the season and obviously the playoffs. Still a lot of uncertainty around him and he makes a decent chunk of change. Too bad Shaheen looks like a bust and not a cheap replacement.

 

The only guys that I think have to be folded into the Trubisky 2nd contract window are Mack, Hicks (seriously hope he retires a Bear barring catastrophic injury), Jackson, Goldman, Smith, Fuller, Whitehair. The other guys you cross the bridge when it comes. Theres gonna be some tough choices to make for sure.