2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

[Cubswin11]

[Cubswin11]

 

Replace La Stella with this guy, please!

My thoughts exactly. Crazy they just let him go because they didn’t want to pay him ~$4 million. They could’ve gotten a lottery ticket or two at least from someone. Like at least get some teams Mekkes, Maples, etc types.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

This might be a silly question, but what is Dietrich good at? He’s a minus defender everywhere, he doesn’t hit for average, and while he has some pop in his bat he’s not likely to exceed a .330 wOBA, plus he’s about to turn 30 so it’s not gonna get better. I’d rather bet on La Stella bouncing back if choosing between them.

[Cubswin11]

This might be a silly question, but what is Dietrich good at? He’s a minus defender everywhere, he doesn’t hit for average, and while he has some pop in his bat he’s not likely to exceed a .330 wOBA, plus he’s about to turn 30 so it’s not gonna get better. I’d rather bet on La Stella bouncing back if choosing between them.

LaStella bouncing back to what, exactly?

 

 

I view Dietrich as a want only if it’s over LaStella for the last bench spot. Like I don’t care to add him much more than that. LaStella literally can’t play defense anywhere, Dietrich can get by a few places. Dietrich has also had to actually play everyday a few years too where as Tommy is heavily shielded. If Tommy had to play as much as Dietrich his numbers would be awful. I think Dietrich just has more true talent. Dietrich has better numbers vs RHP for his career too (higher OPS, wRC+ and wOBA vs RHP for his career over LaStella, their BA is nearly the same) which facing RHP is something either would primarily do, he also has a lot better numbers not in Marlins park (which is a huge pitcher park, iirc) .271/.351/.462, 120 wRC+, .352 wOBA, in a lesser role like Tommy I think he’s a ton better and in the situation guys get hurt he’s the better option to have to play 4+ times a week for extended periods as well.

 

That being said, someone will likely sign Dietrich with a more clear path to playing time than we would or should and Theo should do something cool soon so we don’t need to argue over the benefits and wants of Dietrich vs LaStella and hopefully neither are on the team next year because we have better options.

Edited November 27, 2018 by Cubswin11

[Transmogrified Tiger]

This might be a silly question, but what is Dietrich good at? He’s a minus defender everywhere, he doesn’t hit for average, and while he has some pop in his bat he’s not likely to exceed a .330 wOBA, plus he’s about to turn 30 so it’s not gonna get better. I’d rather bet on La Stella bouncing back if choosing between them.

LaStella bouncing back to what, exactly?

 

He had a .350 wOBA the previous two years/300+ PA

[Cubswin11]

 

I'd prefer he doesn't go to the Brewers but he might not be very good anymore. Anyways, if Giants are doing a tear down I'd have interest in Crawford. Him and Chatwood have similar LT hits and he's controlled a year longer and owed ~$20 million more (Crawford owed 3/45, 12.5 LT hit, Chatwood owed 2/25.5 and 12.6 LT hit remain). In the non-Bryce offseason something like Chatwood, Almora and a prospect(s) (throw in Russell too if they want to deal with him) for Crawford and signing Pollock or McCutchen (2 year deal on McCutchen, 3 years on Pollock) wouldn't be that bad of an offseason.

 

I don't know if that's a fair trade for Crawford or not but would think they're going to have to eat money on his deal to move him if they want any sort of decent return and taking Chatwood gets them out sooner and saves more money and they get Almora and a prospect out of it and maybe Chatwood eats some innings. Crawford also has a full NTC so that could limit their options on trading him so that could play in our favor if he only wants to go to a contender/have interest in playing here.

[Cubswin11]

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[Bryants Disco Ball]

 

Replace La Stella with this guy, please!

My thoughts exactly. Crazy they just let him go because they didn’t want to pay him ~$4 million. They could’ve gotten a lottery ticket or two at least from someone. Like at least get some teams Mekkes, Maples, etc types.

 

Question, because I know I am missing something.

 

If no team claimed him on waivers, that means nobody wanted to pay him $4 million and thus wouldn't also have given up lottery tickets, right? Or am I reading this wrong?

[Thunderbolt_47]

Regarding the whole sale to Japan thing, the player isn't just shipped there after a transaction like a new muffler for your car.

Either the guy was approached by the Japanese team, he agreed and then the Japanese team reached a deal with the American one, or the player approached the Japanese, or the Japanese team asked to buy the American player, and then the American team asked the player if he wanted to go or not. In any way, they're not shipped there like a computer part you'd buy on Amazon, the player is supposed to be informed and willing.

The opposite happened recently in European soccer, with World Cup winner Kylian Mbappe being sold without his agreement from his club to another, the guy ended up rolling along since he received a part of the hefty sum that was paid, but he was still sold by surprise.

 

... I can't believe I wrote all of this without a slave joke, especially since Mbappe happens to be black.

[Sammy Sofa]

... I can't believe I wrote all of this without a slave joke, especially since Mbappe happens to be black.

 

[Cubswin11]

More disappointed in him not coming back than I probably should be.

 

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[CyHawk_Cub]

... I can't believe I wrote all of this without a slave joke, especially since Mbappe happens to be black.

 

 

It's because slave jokes are funny, man

[jersey cubs fan]

you always wonder when a new poster will start to feel his oats

[Sammy Sofa]

... I can't believe I wrote all of this without a slave joke, especially since Mbappe happens to be black.

 

 

It's because slave jokes are funny, man

 

I "like" that he surprised himself by not going for it.

[ConstableRabbit]

[ConstableRabbit]

More disappointed in him not coming back than I probably should be.

 

Me too, but not at that price.

[CyHawk_Cub]

 

 

It's because slave jokes are funny, man

 

I "like" that he surprised himself by not going for it.

 

The self-restraint was admirable. Get the guy his plaque for Poster of the Month

[Cubswin11]

More disappointed in him not coming back than I probably should be.

 

 

$8 million? Well played, sir, and a hard pass! I thought he’d get closer to $10 than not so was never expexting him back. Now’s the time to mix the future with the present and gamble a little. I assume Harper in that last sentence. Find the next Chavez, honestly should not be so hard.

Yeah there’s going to be around a half dozen guys not signed come February we can have for nothing that conceivably could be as good or better than Chavez and we aren’t committed more than 1 year and maybe a few million if incentives are hit.

[Backtobanks]

More disappointed in him not coming back than I probably should be.

 

 

$8 million? Well played, sir, and a hard pass! I thought he’d get closer to $10 than not so was never expexting him back. Now’s the time to mix the future with the present and gamble a little. I assume Harper in that last sentence. Find the next Chavez, honestly should not be so hard.

Yeah there’s going to be around a half dozen guys not signed come February we can have for nothing that conceivably could be as good or better than Chavez and we aren’t committed more than 1 year and maybe a few million if incentives are hit.

 

 

I'm not sure there will be a half dozen guys laying around in February that we can get for next to nothing that we can count on putting up 1.15 ERA, 42K/5BB, ERA+ of 374, and WHIP of .795.

[Sammy Sofa]

You can count on Chavez to do that?

[Cubswin11]

 

$8 million? Well played, sir, and a hard pass! I thought he’d get closer to $10 than not so was never expexting him back. Now’s the time to mix the future with the present and gamble a little. I assume Harper in that last sentence. Find the next Chavez, honestly should not be so hard.

Yeah there’s going to be around a half dozen guys not signed come February we can have for nothing that conceivably could be as good or better than Chavez and we aren’t committed more than 1 year and maybe a few million if incentives are hit.

 

 

I'm not sure there will be a half dozen guys laying around in February that we can get for next to nothing that we can count on putting up 1.15 ERA, 42K/5BB, ERA+ of 374, and WHIP of .795.

Well yeah, there likely won’t be a single FA relief pitcher who puts up those numbers over a full year next year and Chavez certainly isn’t going to do that this year or in 2 years either. I’m talking about guys who will be better, conceivably, than Chavez starting this coming year who will come a lot cheaper than him and will be available. Unless you think Chavez is like a top 3 relief pitcher in baseball based off his stop with us last year.

 

Just like Duensing last offseason..... The goal should be to try and find the next Chavez/Duensing on the cheap instead of doubling down on 30 something year old RPs putting up a career year/stretch but otherwise have a spotty track record and/or just okay stuff. A ton of those guys exist and it's a matter of identifying them (which we have successfully twice now in Duensing and Chavez for 1 year) but you probably don't want to end up paying them like we did Duesning you want to overturn them and find 2-3 guys to bring in to ST and hope one sticks for that spot.

[Bull]

More disappointed in him not coming back than I probably should be.

 

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This is because Cole convinced them to take analytics seriously. Shaddup Cole!

[Cubswin11]

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[champaignchris]

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Pretty good gamble for the Pads. He’s been a good pitcher when healthy. Not quite apples to apples, but you can compare the $15M for 2 years they’re paying Richards to the &17M for 1 year the Dodgers are paying Ryu, and this looks like a bargain.

[jersey cubs fan]

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