Bears 2018 Offseason: Matt Nagy Hired as Head Coach

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ok so what'll it take to take khalil mack

 

 

Truckloads of cash and draft picks. Do it.

This article says multiple firsts plus. I’m in. It would fill one of the few glaring holes on roster for the long term with an elite young player at a critical position, and could put them in the playoffs this year. Basically name a price and I’d pay.

 

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2018/08/01/chicago-bears-khalil-mack-oakland-raiders-trade/

 

Yeah, I'd definitely go for it if I'm the Bears. They are one of the few teams that could trade picks and pay him. While, I'd hate to lose the pair of 1st round picks (especially with no 2nd next year).....the Bears don't necessarily have a ton of needs like they have had as recently as April.

 

They have 27 Mil in cap space right now. They can afford to frontload the hell out of Mack's extension, and not exactly hurting for money in the near future until Trubisky's rookie deal is up.

 

The one good thing about being a terrible team for so many years, is that the Bears can make a move like this because they don't have very many good players. The Bears have 25 players who are free agents after 2018, which seems like a lot, but the only ones who are above replacement level are Goldman, Amos, Massie, Callahan and I'll even throw Lynch, White, and Kush in there since all are projected starters/contributors right now. Kush is easily replaced by Daniels. White is only still on the team because he was the 7th pick. Lynch isn't needed with Mack. Callahan and Massie could be replaced by mid round draft picks or cheap FAs. Only Goldman and Amos look like must re-signs, and neither will break the bank.

 

2020 you're only looking at re-signing Whitehair and maybe Kwiatkoski (but do have Iyeibuniwe), with Leonard Floyd's 5th year option kicking in, if he pans out (Mack would clearly help). Jordan Howard's also a FA this year, but I don't see the Bears paying him big money to stay as a non-ideal fit. So, that's 3 years they can easily afford Mack before they have a huge contingent of players becoming FAs and Trubisky's 5th year option.

 

This would be similar to the Cutler trade. But instead of banking on a young talent that has shown flashes, and hope you can take him to the next level. Mack is already a top 5 pass rusher in the league. It'd be a gamble giving up a pair of 1sts, but Mack's a player that can put you into the playoffs. And giving up a pick in the 20s is much more tolerable than giving up a pick where the Bears have picked in recent years. It also would likely move the 2nd rounder (to the Patriots) down a decent bit.

[We Got The Whole 9]

What's pissing me off even more about the Smith whathaveyou is that we could have traded out of 9 and scooped up extra capital which would have made the eventual lack of a 2019 2nd much easier to navigate around. Only a handful of times in the last decade have I felt that there was a non-pass rushing LB who was a must-have, and Smith wasn't one of them. Hope of course that he proves me wrong but I always feel like a guy like that can be found in the middle rounds each and every year. It bugs me that Pace locks onto his guys and isn't willing to risk a move back to stack chips.

[minnesotacubsfan]

What's pissing me off even more about the Smith whathaveyou is that we could have traded out of 9 and scooped up extra capital which would have made the eventual lack of a 2019 2nd much easier to navigate around. Only a handful of times in the last decade have I felt that there was a non-pass rushing LB who was a must-have, and Smith wasn't one of them. Hope of course that he proves me wrong but I always feel like a guy like that can be found in the middle rounds each and every year. It bugs me that Pace locks onto his guys and isn't willing to risk a move back to stack chips.

 

 

If we somehow walk away with Mack, I could live with it

[minnesotacubsfan]

Hows Joseph doing? He had a pass defense/forced INT Thursday night. Any chance he sticks?

[WrigleyField 22]

Hows Joseph doing? He had a pass defense/forced INT Thursday night. Any chance he sticks?

It would be pretty incredible if he did.

[r_mack]

What's pissing me off even more about the Smith whathaveyou is that we could have traded out of 9 and scooped up extra capital which would have made the eventual lack of a 2019 2nd much easier to navigate around. Only a handful of times in the last decade have I felt that there was a non-pass rushing LB who was a must-have, and Smith wasn't one of them. Hope of course that he proves me wrong but I always feel like a guy like that can be found in the middle rounds each and every year. It bugs me that Pace locks onto his guys and isn't willing to risk a move back to stack chips.

Roquan will be well worth the draft pick whenever he gets signed

[Brian]

I didn't realize the Bears had signed John Franklin III the QB from Last Chance U Season 1. The Seahawks brought him in for their rookie mini camp and put him on defense, and then the Bears brought him into theirs and signed him afterwards. He didn't play in the HOF game.

[Brian]

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When your head coach could probably play better QB then they guy that started the first couple of games the year before.

[David]

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[David]

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[jersey cubs fan]

I'm confused

Chicago’s Problem: Not Enough 21 Personnel

The Bears were bad with their personnel usage in 2017, and that is putting it mildly. The Bears threw 58% of their passes out of 11 personnel, a below-average rate. These passes were terrible. Trubisky was successful on just 35% with 5.6 YPA.

 

His best grouping to pass out of was 12 personnel. 12 personnel adds an extra tight end on the field, which can act as a route runner or a pass protector. From 12, Trubisky recorded a 50% success rate with 9.6 YPA.

 

But the Bears passed out of 12 at the league average (15% of attempts). They instead opted to use way more 21 than league average. They aligned in 21 on 23% of pass plays, well above the league average of 5%. These plays delivered a 42% success rate and 7.2 YPA. But the worst part about 21 was that nearly 50% of the time they were in 21 they passed the ball to their RBs. And these telegraphed plays were terrible: they produced a 21% success rate and 3.4 YPA. That’s not 3.4 yards per carry, that’s yards per attempt.

[jersey cubs fan]

[Tim]

The Bears gained 3.7 YPC on rushes instead of 9.9 YPA on passes. They were well below average when running the ball, but well above average when passing it. They had a better success rate as well (53% when passing vs 41% when rushing).

 

Yet they ran the ball more often than any other team in the NFL!

Okay, last time, I swear...

 

elite.

[David]

I'm confused

Chicago’s Problem: Not Enough 21 Personnel

The Bears were bad with their personnel usage in 2017, and that is putting it mildly. The Bears threw 58% of their passes out of 11 personnel, a below-average rate. These passes were terrible. Trubisky was successful on just 35% with 5.6 YPA.

 

His best grouping to pass out of was 12 personnel. 12 personnel adds an extra tight end on the field, which can act as a route runner or a pass protector. From 12, Trubisky recorded a 50% success rate with 9.6 YPA.

 

But the Bears passed out of 12 at the league average (15% of attempts). They instead opted to use way more 21 than league average. They aligned in 21 on 23% of pass plays, well above the league average of 5%. These plays delivered a 42% success rate and 7.2 YPA. But the worst part about 21 was that nearly 50% of the time they were in 21 they passed the ball to their RBs. And these telegraphed plays were terrible: they produced a 21% success rate and 3.4 YPA. That’s not 3.4 yards per carry, that’s yards per attempt.

 

Probably a typo where they meant 12

[Thrilho]

The Bears gained 3.7 YPC on rushes instead of 9.9 YPA on passes. They were well below average when running the ball, but well above average when passing it. They had a better success rate as well (53% when passing vs 41% when rushing).

 

Yet they ran the ball more often than any other team in the NFL!

Okay, last time, I swear...

 

elite.

 

Yet they ran the ball more often than any other team in the NFL!

 

You want to make that $20 bet again now that they’ve got a coaching staff that isn’t actively destroying their chances at ever taking a lead? Top 5 YPC top 5 yards

[Tim]

The Bears gained 3.7 YPC on rushes instead of 9.9 YPA on passes. They were well below average when running the ball, but well above average when passing it. They had a better success rate as well (53% when passing vs 41% when rushing).

 

Yet they ran the ball more often than any other team in the NFL!

Okay, last time, I swear...

 

elite.

 

Yet they ran the ball more often than any other team in the NFL!

 

You want to make that $20 bet again now that they’ve got a coaching staff that isn’t actively destroying their chances at ever taking a lead? Top 5 YPC top 5 yards

Smart money would still be to take the bet, just because it is hard to be top five in both categories. It is really hard to be "elite"

 

But I don't want to be betting against the team this year.

[SpongeWorthy]

hello tim please unban sulley before the season starts tia

[Derwood]

hello tim please unban sulley before the season starts tia

 

Unban him, but then ban him from Bears game threads

[Thrilho]

Okay, last time, I swear...

 

elite.

 

Yet they ran the ball more often than any other team in the NFL!

 

You want to make that $20 bet again now that they’ve got a coaching staff that isn’t actively destroying their chances at ever taking a lead? Top 5 YPC top 5 yards

Smart money would still be to take the bet, just because it is hard to be top five in both categories. It is really hard to be "elite"

 

But I don't want to be betting against the team this year.

Yeah I don’t think I would call my end of the bet the smart money, but I think they’ll be right in the mix for top 5 in both so figured why not double down. I’d be much more confident in betting on the Bears as a top 10 scoring offense and playoff team. Feeling real good about the offensive skill players.

[jersey cubs fan]

[UMFan83]

*preseason performance means very little*

 

Fairly uninspiring first offensive and defensive possession

[Brian]

Fuller!

[Brian]

Start Chase Daniel

 

HIs listed height of 6' can't be real right? He looks so tiny.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Start Chase Daniel

 

HIs listed height of 6' can't be real right? He looks so tiny.

 

i had a college class with him, he’s maybe 5-10

[jersey cubs fan]