Random In-season Musings and Rumors

[NonProfitCow]

A weird trade. Even if Weaver and Reyes are lights out next year, they'll still probably have to sign a Leake-ish player to fill out their starting rotation.

Cardinals are very deep in SP options in the upper minors.

[David]

Anyone want Juan Nicasio? For free?

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/instagraphs/anyone-want-a-good-reliever-for-free/

 

Juan Nicasio is on waivers — but not the kind you’d think.

 

The Pirates have placed the reliever on irrevocable outright waivers, according to sources, meaning any team can claim him and assume the roughly $600,000 remaining on his contract without giving the Pirates anything in return.

 

Sounds like they are doing this to save $600k. FWIW, he has been worth more than Wade Davis this year in terms of fWAR (or any other Cubs pitcher besides Jake, Hendricks and Lester)

 

woah

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I can't imagine the cubs get a chance to grab him

[champaignchris]

A weird trade. Even if Weaver and Reyes are lights out next year, they'll still probably have to sign a Leake-ish player to fill out their starting rotation.

Cardinals are very deep in SP options in the upper minors.

 

Weaver, Reyes and Flaherty could all be studs, but none have ever pitched more than 150 professional innings in a season and Reyes is coming off TJS and will undoubtedly be on an innings limit. Wainright can't be counted on for anything and they shouldn't have too much confidence in Wacha being anything more than ok.

 

Even if the kids pitch well and neither Wacha nor Martinez gets hurt, they still look like they need someone to pick up 150-ish innings. Maybe they think whomever they pick up (plus the $ they send to Seattle) will be cheaper or better than Leake. I can see them getting someone cheaper or someone better, but not both.

[David]

I can't imagine the cubs get a chance to grab him

 

yeah, i'd have to think even if the non contenders are out, either one of the AL wild card contenders would take him or the brewers/cards just to keep him from us.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Nicasio was going to be on my list for 2018 Koji replacements, so sign me up for adding him now.

[Tim]

Yeah, if he gets to us it is a no-brainer.

 

Heck, do it now and he can just move locker rooms.

[Cubswin11]

I can't imagine the cubs get a chance to grab him

 

yeah, i'd have to think even if the non contenders are out, either one of the AL wild card contenders would take him or the brewers/cards just to keep him from us.

I expect Some to not know how waivers work but not you David, not you. For shame

[David]

I can't imagine the cubs get a chance to grab him

 

yeah, i'd have to think even if the non contenders are out, either one of the AL wild card contenders would take him or the brewers/cards just to keep him from us.

I expect Some to not know how waivers work but not you David, not you. For shame

 

i don't know horsefeathers about any of the leagues transactional intricacies. thank god mlb barely has anything resembling a salary cap at least.

 

i thought that if multiple teams put a claim on the same player, the team with the lowest winning percentage wins (without getting into tiebreakers and such)

[Banedon]

 

yeah, i'd have to think even if the non contenders are out, either one of the AL wild card contenders would take him or the brewers/cards just to keep him from us.

I expect Some to not know how waivers work but not you David, not you. For shame

 

i don't know horsefeathers about any of the leagues transactional intricacies. thank god mlb barely has anything resembling a salary cap at least.

 

i thought that if multiple teams put a claim on the same player, the team with the lowest winning percentage wins (without getting into tiebreakers and such)

 

True, but NL before AL.

 

If more than one team claims the player from waivers, the team with the weakest record in the player's league gets preference. If no team in the player's league claims him, the claiming team with the weakest record in the other league gets preference.

[David]

I expect Some to not know how waivers work but not you David, not you. For shame

 

i don't know horsefeathers about any of the leagues transactional intricacies. thank god mlb barely has anything resembling a salary cap at least.

 

i thought that if multiple teams put a claim on the same player, the team with the lowest winning percentage wins (without getting into tiebreakers and such)

 

True, but NL before AL.

 

If more than one team claims the player from waivers, the team with the weakest record in the player's league gets preference. If no team in the player's league claims him, the claiming team with the weakest record in the other league gets preference.

 

oh...that's dumb. i just figured the same league thing was for tie breaking (which is still dumb)

[Tim]

 

i don't know horsefeathers about any of the leagues transactional intricacies. thank god mlb barely has anything resembling a salary cap at least.

 

i thought that if multiple teams put a claim on the same player, the team with the lowest winning percentage wins (without getting into tiebreakers and such)

 

True, but NL before AL.

 

If more than one team claims the player from waivers, the team with the weakest record in the player's league gets preference. If no team in the player's league claims him, the claiming team with the weakest record in the other league gets preference.

 

oh...that's dumb. i just figured the same league thing was for tie breaking (which is still dumb)

It's just a legacy from when the leagues were more separate. But yeah it should be eliminated now.

[Cubswin11]

It is dumb, just figured the bottom to top in the players teams league who cut him first was relative common knowledge Edited August 30, 2017 by Cubswin11

[Bote McBoteface]

http://www.bleachernation.com/2017/08/30/a-mystery-team-has-reportedly-emerged-on-justin-verlander-as-waiver-trade-deadline-looms/

 

With the odd timing of the Leake trade, it kind of makes you wonder if the two are connected- perhaps a salary dump to make room and/or acquire a prospect to deal.

 

The Cards are 5 games back and have 8 more against us and 4, including today, against the Brewers, and split the rest of their games against the Giants, Padres, Reds, and Pirates.

 

If thats not what their plan is, it should be.

[UMFan83]

I expect Some to not know how waivers work but not you David, not you. For shame

 

i don't know horsefeathers about any of the leagues transactional intricacies. thank god mlb barely has anything resembling a salary cap at least.

 

i thought that if multiple teams put a claim on the same player, the team with the lowest winning percentage wins (without getting into tiebreakers and such)

 

True, but NL before AL.

 

If more than one team claims the player from waivers, the team with the weakest record in the player's league gets preference. If no team in the player's league claims him, the claiming team with the weakest record in the other league gets preference.

 

Would be funny if our decent but not great season (with respect to expectations) allowed us to snag this randomly good reliever that was put on irrevocable waivers.

 

But if you look at the standings currently the only teams I could see claiming him over the Cubs are the Brewers and Cardinals. I guess it's possible the Brewers pass on him because they are cheap and the Cardinals pass on him because they really did put up a white flag trading Leake, but more than likely one of those 2 teams will take them, even if only to keep him from the Cubs.

 

Also the Marlins I guess could claim him but they are owned by cheap ass Loria and in the middle of an ownership change so not sure if they add that much salary.

[17 Seconds]

http://www.bleachernation.com/2017/08/30/a-mystery-team-has-reportedly-emerged-on-justin-verlander-as-waiver-trade-deadline-looms/

 

With the odd timing of the Leake trade, it kind of makes you wonder if the two are connected- perhaps a salary dump to make room and/or acquire a prospect to deal.

 

The Cards are 5 games back and have 8 more against us and 4, including today, against the Brewers, and split the rest of their games against the Giants, Padres, Reds, and Pirates.

 

If thats not what their plan is, it should be.

 

if that is what their plan is, it should be too

[Sammy Sofa]

It is dumb, just figured the bottom to top in the players team who cut him first was relative common knowledge

 

Somehow I knew how that worked, but had no idea how the DH spot worked in a lineup.

[SouthSideRyan]

 

i don't know horsefeathers about any of the leagues transactional intricacies. thank god mlb barely has anything resembling a salary cap at least.

 

i thought that if multiple teams put a claim on the same player, the team with the lowest winning percentage wins (without getting into tiebreakers and such)

 

True, but NL before AL.

 

If more than one team claims the player from waivers, the team with the weakest record in the player's league gets preference. If no team in the player's league claims him, the claiming team with the weakest record in the other league gets preference.

 

Would be funny if our decent but not great season (with respect to expectations) allowed us to snag this randomly good reliever that was put on irrevocable waivers.

 

But if you look at the standings currently the only teams I could see claiming him over the Cubs are the Brewers and Cardinals. I guess it's possible the Brewers pass on him because they are cheap and the Cardinals pass on him because they really did put up a white flag trading Leake, but more than likely one of those 2 teams will take them, even if only to keep him from the Cubs.

 

Also the Marlins I guess could claim him but they are owned by cheap ass Loria and in the middle of an ownership change so not sure if they add that much salary.

 

An enterprising non-contender with wiggle room could claim him and flip him for a couple bucks. Problem is they'd have to do it all in a 24 hour period.

[We Got The Whole 9]

The Score reports an unknown team tried to claim Cozart and the Reds pulled him back

 

Gotta be us or the Cards. Although I don't know what his compensation would look like if they let him walk. I just can't see why they wouldn't trade him.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

The Score reports an unknown team tried to claim Cozart and the Reds pulled him back

 

Gotta be us or the Cards. Although I don't know what his compensation would look like if they let him walk. I just can't see why they wouldn't trade him.

 

Would love to get him as Russell insurance.

[We Got The Whole 9]

That would be horsefeathering great. And he'd also up his FA stock by getting WS experience.

[Bear Cub]

The Verlander rumors are still flying per Pat Boyle on CSN.

[Brian]

is there a time for the deadline or is it midnight EST?

[Cubswin11]

Justin Upton to the Angels

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Nicasio lasted all of 1 team, the Phillies claimed him. I'm not sure if he's technically eligible to be traded by them today, I think so and I have to think that would be the primary motivation on Philly's part.