The Bryce is Right, Bitch

[Tim]

Years ago it was Tim pooping on everyone's parade about how the projections/expectations for Castro need to be tempered sooner rather than later. Now he's throwing wild haymakers at the idea that Bryant's trajectory might be...questionable.

 

Yeah, but I was right about that and the Bears running game, too.

 

I don't defend these mountains lightly!

[Bluescale]

Cubs winning the WS really did set us on the worst timeline, didn't it?

 

I mean, we had confirmation of that 1 week after game 7.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm alleging you are the Cat. You love the Cat big-time.

I know this can't be true because nobody on this site loves themselves.

add self-loathing to the list of things we know about jersey. we'll have your home address in no time, gary?

I haven't been in Indiana in years

[gflore34]

What I stated in no shape or form was defeatist regarding signing Harper, Machado or both, of course, I wanted the Cubs to sign both. It just does not appear to be realistic, sure, I like Theo to say horsefeathers it, sign both, crush the NL, make sawdust of the NL Central and win the WS. Edited January 29, 2019 by gflore34

[JudasIscariotTheBird]

The Phils need to make their move soon so we can lock this thread at 108 pages.

[imb]

if kb is healthy that's great, but rest didn't help last year and it's not like he was out with a hamstring injury, it was a shoulder thing. look over in RF if you don't think those can have a longterm impact on your swing/power

 

heyward is 100 percent healthy, but the shoulder injury lowered the bar for what he could accomplish when healthy.

 

and even if everything *is* 100 percent cool, (by my count) only 4 players (McCutcheon, Miguel Cabrera, Trout and Votto) have posted more than three 6 WAR seasons since 2010 (Bryant has 3.) So it's not like it's some sure deal that he ever reaches that level again even if 100 percent healthy.

 

I mean everyone is upset because we aren't giving $300 million to Harper (we should) and he only has 1 6-WAR season to his credit.

[Tim]

if kb is healthy that's great, but rest didn't help last year and it's not like he was out with a hamstring injury, it was a shoulder thing. look over in RF if you don't think those can have a longterm impact on your swing/power

 

heyward is 100 percent healthy, but the shoulder injury lowered the bar for what he could accomplish when healthy.

 

and even if everything *is* 100 percent cool, (by my count) only 4 players (McCutcheon, Miguel Cabrera, Trout and Votto) have posted more than three 6 WAR seasons since 2010 (Bryant has 3.) So it's not like it's some sure deal that he ever reaches that level again even if 100 percent healthy.

 

I mean everyone is upset because we aren't giving $300 million to Harper (we should) and he only has 1 6-WAR season to his credit.

All of this is true.

 

It's also true that Bryant has reached that level in every season in which he was "fully" healthy and also was on pace to go well past 6 WAR last year before the injury. It's possible that the injury will limit the finish on his swing going forward and that his results dip as a result.

 

But I'll take bets on the gap between his 2018 and 2019 more than offsetting the dip in Javy's, assuming KB and Javy each play in 145+ games. Any of you doom bonering people want to wager?

[imb]

if kb is healthy that's great, but rest didn't help last year and it's not like he was out with a hamstring injury, it was a shoulder thing. look over in RF if you don't think those can have a longterm impact on your swing/power

 

heyward is 100 percent healthy, but the shoulder injury lowered the bar for what he could accomplish when healthy.

 

and even if everything *is* 100 percent cool, (by my count) only 4 players (McCutcheon, Miguel Cabrera, Trout and Votto) have posted more than three 6 WAR seasons since 2010 (Bryant has 3.) So it's not like it's some sure deal that he ever reaches that level again even if 100 percent healthy.

 

I mean everyone is upset because we aren't giving $300 million to Harper (we should) and he only has 1 6-WAR season to his credit.

All of this is true.

 

It's also true that Bryant has reached that level in every season in which he was "fully" healthy and also was on pace to go well past 6 WAR last year before the injury. It's possible that the injury will limit the finish on his swing going forward and that his results dip as a result.

 

But I'll take bets on the gap between his 2018 and 2019 more than offsetting the dip in Javy's, assuming KB and Javy each play in 145+ games. Any of you doom bonering people want to wager?

 

i actually have more faith in javy not dipping *that* much than i do in Bryant getting back to 2016-17 levels of production right now

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I am so here for the new majority doom boner zeitgeist

[Tim]

if kb is healthy that's great, but rest didn't help last year and it's not like he was out with a hamstring injury, it was a shoulder thing. look over in RF if you don't think those can have a longterm impact on your swing/power

 

heyward is 100 percent healthy, but the shoulder injury lowered the bar for what he could accomplish when healthy.

 

and even if everything *is* 100 percent cool, (by my count) only 4 players (McCutcheon, Miguel Cabrera, Trout and Votto) have posted more than three 6 WAR seasons since 2010 (Bryant has 3.) So it's not like it's some sure deal that he ever reaches that level again even if 100 percent healthy.

 

I mean everyone is upset because we aren't giving $300 million to Harper (we should) and he only has 1 6-WAR season to his credit.

All of this is true.

 

It's also true that Bryant has reached that level in every season in which he was "fully" healthy and also was on pace to go well past 6 WAR last year before the injury. It's possible that the injury will limit the finish on his swing going forward and that his results dip as a result.

 

But I'll take bets on the gap between his 2018 and 2019 more than offsetting the dip in Javy's, assuming KB and Javy each play in 145+ games. Any of you doom bonering people want to wager?

 

i actually have more faith in javy not dipping *that* much than i do in Bryant getting back to 2016-17 levels of production right now

I purposefully set myself up to have two ways to win that bet.

 

 

Unfortunately, there are also two ways to lose.

[JudasIscariotTheBird]

if kb is healthy that's great, but rest didn't help last year and it's not like he was out with a hamstring injury, it was a shoulder thing. look over in RF if you don't think those can have a longterm impact on your swing/power

 

heyward is 100 percent healthy, but the shoulder injury lowered the bar for what he could accomplish when healthy.

 

and even if everything *is* 100 percent cool, (by my count) only 4 players (McCutcheon, Miguel Cabrera, Trout and Votto) have posted more than three 6 WAR seasons since 2010 (Bryant has 3.) So it's not like it's some sure deal that he ever reaches that level again even if 100 percent healthy.

 

I mean everyone is upset because we aren't giving $300 million to Harper (we should) and he only has 1 6-WAR season to his credit.

All of this is true.

 

It's also true that Bryant has reached that level in every season in which he was "fully" healthy and also was on pace to go well past 6 WAR last year before the injury. It's possible that the injury will limit the finish on his swing going forward and that his results dip as a result.

 

But I'll take bets on the gap between his 2018 and 2019 more than offsetting the dip in Javy's, assuming KB and Javy each play in 145+ games. Any of you doom bonering people want to wager?

I offered to make wagers as a responce to his doom bonering before. I never heard back. (Although, that 145+ game stipulation is pretty significant.)

[jersey cubs fan]

if kb is healthy that's great, but rest didn't help last year and it's not like he was out with a hamstring injury, it was a shoulder thing. look over in RF if you don't think those can have a longterm impact on your swing/power

 

heyward is 100 percent healthy, but the shoulder injury lowered the bar for what he could accomplish when healthy.

 

and even if everything *is* 100 percent cool, (by my count) only 4 players (McCutcheon, Miguel Cabrera, Trout and Votto) have posted more than three 6 WAR seasons since 2010 (Bryant has 3.) So it's not like it's some sure deal that he ever reaches that level again even if 100 percent healthy.

 

I mean everyone is upset because we aren't giving $300 million to Harper (we should) and he only has 1 6-WAR season to his credit.

All of this is true.

 

It's also true that Bryant has reached that level in every season in which he was "fully" healthy and also was on pace to go well past 6 WAR last year before the injury. It's possible that the injury will limit the finish on his swing going forward and that his results dip as a result.

 

But I'll take bets on the gap between his 2018 and 2019 more than offsetting the dip in Javy's, assuming KB and Javy each play in 145+ games. Any of you doom bonering people want to wager?

There's more volatility in my javy expectations than bryant. I think Kris will be fine.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Wait. Did the bears end up having an elite running game this year?

[Bull]

if kb is healthy that's great, but rest didn't help last year and it's not like he was out with a hamstring injury, it was a shoulder thing. look over in RF if you don't think those can have a longterm impact on your swing/power

 

heyward is 100 percent healthy, but the shoulder injury lowered the bar for what he could accomplish when healthy.

 

and even if everything *is* 100 percent cool, (by my count) only 4 players (McCutcheon, Miguel Cabrera, Trout and Votto) have posted more than three 6 WAR seasons since 2010 (Bryant has 3.) So it's not like it's some sure deal that he ever reaches that level again even if 100 percent healthy.

 

I mean everyone is upset because we aren't giving $300 million to Harper (we should) and he only has 1 6-WAR season to his credit.

All of this is true.

 

It's also true that Bryant has reached that level in every season in which he was "fully" healthy and also was on pace to go well past 6 WAR last year before the injury. It's possible that the injury will limit the finish on his swing going forward and that his results dip as a result.

 

But I'll take bets on the gap between his 2018 and 2019 more than offsetting the dip in Javy's, assuming KB and Javy each play in 145+ games. Any of you doom bonering people want to wager?

I offered to make wagers as a responce to his doom bonering before. I never heard back. (Although, that 145+ game stipulation is pretty significant.)

Easiest way to quantify “healthy” this far in advance. To Tim’s credit, would also include “relatively healthy,” so he’s givng more than he has to.

[Sammy Sofa]

if kb is healthy that's great, but rest didn't help last year and it's not like he was out with a hamstring injury, it was a shoulder thing. look over in RF if you don't think those can have a longterm impact on your swing/power

 

heyward is 100 percent healthy, but the shoulder injury lowered the bar for what he could accomplish when healthy.

 

and even if everything *is* 100 percent cool, (by my count) only 4 players (McCutcheon, Miguel Cabrera, Trout and Votto) have posted more than three 6 WAR seasons since 2010 (Bryant has 3.) So it's not like it's some sure deal that he ever reaches that level again even if 100 percent healthy.

 

I mean everyone is upset because we aren't giving $300 million to Harper (we should) and he only has 1 6-WAR season to his credit.

All of this is true.

 

It's also true that Bryant has reached that level in every season in which he was "fully" healthy and also was on pace to go well past 6 WAR last year before the injury. It's possible that the injury will limit the finish on his swing going forward and that his results dip as a result.

 

But I'll take bets on the gap between his 2018 and 2019 more than offsetting the dip in Javy's, assuming KB and Javy each play in 145+ games. Any of you doom bonering people want to wager?

 

Just set a simple fWAR over/under for Bryant, you coward.

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[Tim]

if kb is healthy that's great, but rest didn't help last year and it's not like he was out with a hamstring injury, it was a shoulder thing. look over in RF if you don't think those can have a longterm impact on your swing/power

 

heyward is 100 percent healthy, but the shoulder injury lowered the bar for what he could accomplish when healthy.

 

and even if everything *is* 100 percent cool, (by my count) only 4 players (McCutcheon, Miguel Cabrera, Trout and Votto) have posted more than three 6 WAR seasons since 2010 (Bryant has 3.) So it's not like it's some sure deal that he ever reaches that level again even if 100 percent healthy.

 

I mean everyone is upset because we aren't giving $300 million to Harper (we should) and he only has 1 6-WAR season to his credit.

All of this is true.

 

It's also true that Bryant has reached that level in every season in which he was "fully" healthy and also was on pace to go well past 6 WAR last year before the injury. It's possible that the injury will limit the finish on his swing going forward and that his results dip as a result.

 

But I'll take bets on the gap between his 2018 and 2019 more than offsetting the dip in Javy's, assuming KB and Javy each play in 145+ games. Any of you doom bonering people want to wager?

 

Just set a simple fWAR over/under for Bryant, you coward.

I'm responding pretty exactly to the statements you and David made with this bet. Are you not willing to back up your talk?

[Sammy Sofa]

You are the absolute worst.

 

Gimme the under on a 6 fWAR season.

[Sammy Sofa]

And on a 4 fWAR season for Baez.

[minnesotacubsfan]

And on a 4 fWAR season for Baez.

 

I bet he wins mvp

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Of my heart [emoji3590]

[Bull]

Gimme the under on a 6 fWAR season. (for Bryant)

 

And on a 4 fWAR season for Baez.

 

Bryant in 2018: 2.3

 

Baez in 2018: 5.3

 

So a relatively healthy Bryant gains 3.7 fWAR, making up for the 1.3 fWAR Baez loses almost three times over.

 

It seems you and Tim agree.

[squally1313]

Gimme the under on a 6 fWAR season. (for Bryant)

 

And on a 4 fWAR season for Baez.

 

Bryant in 2018: 2.3

 

Baez in 2018: 5.3

 

So a relatively healthy Bryant gains 3.7 fWAR, making up for the 1.3 fWAR Baez loses almost three times over.

 

It seems you and Tim agree.

 

[17 Seconds]

everyone stfu about kb

[Hairyducked Idiot]

everyone stfu about kb

 

Yeah. This thread could use good news or distractions but I don’t think he’s ready to shoulder that load