New Benny, and Other changes (Bulls offseason)

[Cubbie Swagger]

Also, I really like that Rondo seems motivated. When he's using the chip on his shoulder to his advantage, he can be really good.

[UMFan83]

So the Bulls filled their 'short guy with irrational confidence' roster spot today, signing Isaiah Canaan to a 2 year 2.2m deal (2nd year team option) and I actually kind of like the move.

[Banedon]

NBA trying to get rid of the Hack-a-Shaq strategy...

 

The current rule for away-from-the-play fouls applicable to the last two minutes of the fourth period (and last two minutes of any overtime) – pursuant to which the fouled team is awarded one free throw and retains possession of the ball – will be extended to the last two minutes of each period.

[bcl412]

So the Bulls filled their 'short guy with irrational confidence' roster spot today, signing Isaiah Canaan to a 2 year 2.2m deal (2nd year team option) and I actually kind of like the move.

That makes him the random guy I sign in a video game that makes it on the team in real guy. No one cares about this? Okay.

[bcl412]

NBA trying to get rid of the Hack-a-Shaq strategy...

 

The current rule for away-from-the-play fouls applicable to the last two minutes of the fourth period (and last two minutes of any overtime) – pursuant to which the fouled team is awarded one free throw and retains possession of the ball – will be extended to the last two minutes of each period.

 

I have mixed feelings on this. On the one hand, basketball has always evolved to do what it can to make it more entertaining to watch and the hack a shaq stuff made games very boring. On the other hand I do think having a player on the floor who can't shoot should be exploitable in someway. It is a little agitating when a professional basketball player has such a hard time shooting.

[David]

Zipser signed for 2 years.

 

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2016/07/bulls-paul-zipser-agree-to-deal.html

[Old Style]

Win one for the Zipser.

 

[Proven Veteran]

NBA trying to get rid of the Hack-a-Shaq strategy...

 

The current rule for away-from-the-play fouls applicable to the last two minutes of the fourth period (and last two minutes of any overtime) – pursuant to which the fouled team is awarded one free throw and retains possession of the ball – will be extended to the last two minutes of each period.

 

I have mixed feelings on this. On the one hand, basketball has always evolved to do what it can to make it more entertaining to watch and the hack a shaq stuff made games very boring. On the other hand I do think having a player on the floor who can't shoot should be exploitable in someway. It is a little agitating when a professional basketball player has such a hard time shooting.

Intention fouling completely ruins the game for me. I'd like to see it go away altogether.

[Cubswin11]

I don't like changing the rules for something that only affects a small percentage of players/teams. Get better at FTs, it's not like these guys need to become JJ Reddick at the line. They literally just need to become like ~60% FT shooters for teams to stop doing it.

[Cubbie Swagger]

I feel very strongly that if you play in the NBA and you can't shoot free throws, you should get exposed. Preferably, in front of lots of people. I honestly don't find it boring.

 

And who is this Canaan guy?

[WrigleyField 22]

GarPax knew about this rule change so they signed Rondo.

[bcl412]

I do find when a guy can't make a free throw and it's clearly in his head entertaining. I guess I really enjoy the inner destruction of an individual and it's possible that I'm not a good person.

 

On an unrelated note I think the inner destruction of an individual is what keeps game threads going.

[Banedon]

I don't like changing the rules for something that only affects a small percentage of players/teams. Get better at FTs, it's not like these guys need to become JJ Reddick at the line. They literally just need to become like ~60% FT shooters for teams to stop doing it.

 

I think you're missing the point here. This rule change is purely about fan entertainment. The strategy is legit, it's just boring as hell, and makes the game less exciting to watch. Maybe you're right, and if they learned to shoot FT's, it would change. But they're not learning to do that, and the NBA feels the need to do something to take away a boring to watch aspect of the game.

[Cubswin11]

I don't like changing the rules for something that only affects a small percentage of players/teams. Get better at FTs, it's not like these guys need to become JJ Reddick at the line. They literally just need to become like ~60% FT shooters for teams to stop doing it.

 

I think you're missing the point here. This rule change is purely about fan entertainment. The strategy is legit, it's just boring as hell, and makes the game less exciting to watch. Maybe you're right, and if they learned to shoot FT's, it would change. But they're not learning to do that, and the NBA feels the need to do something to take away a boring to watch aspect of the game.

I don't find it boring at all, but yes I know the fan "outrage" over it being boring is what led to making a change. I doubt this leads to any more fans actually watching games when this strategy would normally be employed. But hey, angry twitter fans got their way.

[Banedon]

I don't like changing the rules for something that only affects a small percentage of players/teams. Get better at FTs, it's not like these guys need to become JJ Reddick at the line. They literally just need to become like ~60% FT shooters for teams to stop doing it.

 

I think you're missing the point here. This rule change is purely about fan entertainment. The strategy is legit, it's just boring as hell, and makes the game less exciting to watch. Maybe you're right, and if they learned to shoot FT's, it would change. But they're not learning to do that, and the NBA feels the need to do something to take away a boring to watch aspect of the game.

I don't find it boring at all, but yes I know the fan "outrage" over it being boring is what led to making a change. I doubt this leads to any more fans actually watching games when this strategy would normally be employed. But hey, angry twitter fans got their way.

 

I think you underestimate how many people get turned off by the slowness of the end of an NBA game. My wife is definitely a sports fan...loves hockey, plays fantasty football, and is a huge Cubs fan...but can't stand watching the NBA most of the time because of the interminably long ending of games/halves. And I get that.

 

I think it's a legit argument to discuss whether or not this rule change will make an actual impact in that regard, but presuming that it does, I think it will definitely lead to more people tuning in...at least to the end of games.

[CubColtPacer]

NBA trying to get rid of the Hack-a-Shaq strategy...

 

The current rule for away-from-the-play fouls applicable to the last two minutes of the fourth period (and last two minutes of any overtime) – pursuant to which the fouled team is awarded one free throw and retains possession of the ball – will be extended to the last two minutes of each period.

 

I have mixed feelings on this. On the one hand, basketball has always evolved to do what it can to make it more entertaining to watch and the hack a shaq stuff made games very boring. On the other hand I do think having a player on the floor who can't shoot should be exploitable in someway. It is a little agitating when a professional basketball player has such a hard time shooting.

 

It already is exploitable. That player provides no spacing, and they can be fouled every time they get passed the ball. That's already a bigger detriment to have on the floor than players who lack other skills like passing or rebounding.

 

The reason the rule was instituted originally in the last 2 minutes of a game was because players were trying to chase Wilt Chamberlain around the court trying to foul him. It wasn't basketball anymore so the rule was changed. It wasn't extended to the entire game because nobody could imagine fouling anybody before then. Now 55 years later this exact same situation popped up, and this is at least a step in the right direction.

 

We should try to make the results of fouling an actual penalty as much as possible. That's what it was designed for. Fouling at the end of games is just done to increase variance. It's expected result is still a penalty (in terms of points) to the team fouling. Hack a shaq is not a penalty anymore. When you add not a penalty to not really basketball being played on those possessions, that's a bad combination.

[CubColtPacer]

 

I think you're missing the point here. This rule change is purely about fan entertainment. The strategy is legit, it's just boring as hell, and makes the game less exciting to watch. Maybe you're right, and if they learned to shoot FT's, it would change. But they're not learning to do that, and the NBA feels the need to do something to take away a boring to watch aspect of the game.

I don't find it boring at all, but yes I know the fan "outrage" over it being boring is what led to making a change. I doubt this leads to any more fans actually watching games when this strategy would normally be employed. But hey, angry twitter fans got their way.

 

I think you underestimate how many people get turned off by the slowness of the end of an NBA game. My wife is definitely a sports fan...loves hockey, plays fantasty football, and is a huge Cubs fan...but can't stand watching the NBA most of the time because of the interminably long ending of games/halves. And I get that.

 

I think it's a legit argument to discuss whether or not this rule change will make an actual impact in that regard, but presuming that it does, I think it will definitely lead to more people tuning in...at least to the end of games.

 

This wouldn't really change the very end of games. The last 2 minutes already had this rule, and that's the time of game that fans complain takes forever. There are other solutions that could help that, but I don't think this one will make much if any difference to that particular issue.

[Banedon]

I don't find it boring at all, but yes I know the fan "outrage" over it being boring is what led to making a change. I doubt this leads to any more fans actually watching games when this strategy would normally be employed. But hey, angry twitter fans got their way.

 

I think you underestimate how many people get turned off by the slowness of the end of an NBA game. My wife is definitely a sports fan...loves hockey, plays fantasty football, and is a huge Cubs fan...but can't stand watching the NBA most of the time because of the interminably long ending of games/halves. And I get that.

 

I think it's a legit argument to discuss whether or not this rule change will make an actual impact in that regard, but presuming that it does, I think it will definitely lead to more people tuning in...at least to the end of games.

 

This wouldn't really change the very end of games. The last 2 minutes already had this rule, and that's the time of game that fans complain takes forever. There are other solutions that could help that, but I don't think this one will make much if any difference to that particular issue.

 

Good point. I think limiting timeouts in the final minutes somehow would be a good idea, personally.

[Cubbie Swagger]

Good point. I think limiting timeouts in the final minutes somehow would be a good idea, personally.

That sounds like an awful idea.

[Banedon]

Good point. I think limiting timeouts in the final minutes somehow would be a good idea, personally.

That sounds like an awful idea.

 

Despite your well reasoned argument, I remain unconvinced.

[UMFan83]

Good point. I think limiting timeouts in the final minutes somehow would be a good idea, personally.

That sounds like an awful idea.

 

Despite your well reasoned argument, I remain unconvinced.

 

I don't know, I like being able to move the ball up to midcourt with a timeout in the last minutes of games. I hate in college where a team down by a basket with less than 2 seconds left has virtually no shot at tying the game. Also I don't want games decided by a team not being able to inbound the ball. I get that the teams deserve to lose if they cant run an inbounds play, or if they are trailing with not enough time left to get upcourt, but being able to call a TO to benefit makes the game more exciting.

 

I hate how the last minutes take forever in the NBA but I think its a necessary evil.

[bcl412]

It's good for drama but moving the ball to half court for no reason always bothered me.

[Andy]

It's good for drama but moving the ball to half court for no reason always bothered me.

I loathe it. You shouldn't be able to time-warp the ball to halfcourt just because it's more exciting.

[Banedon]

It's good for drama but moving the ball to half court for no reason always bothered me.

I loathe it. You shouldn't be able to time-warp the ball to halfcourt just because it's more exciting.

 

See that's not the problem to me. If moving the ball to halfcourt makes the game more exciting, that's great! But the mechanism to do that is a timeout which is the exact opposite of the excitement that's is the goal.

[Sammy Sofa]

Anything in a pro sport that is not done at the college version is better. That's straight up science.