General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

[Omar]

For the Cubs/D'Backs series I went to last year, the immediate surrounding blocks of Chase Field are sort of a dump/dead. One big appeal of a Scottsdale move could be to create that "Wrigelyville" / "Ballpark Village" feel outside the stadium. Not worth it though.

[javy knows my name]

For the Cubs/D'Backs series I went to last year, the immediate surrounding blocks of Chase Field are sort of a dump/dead. One big appeal of a Scottsdale move could be to create that "Wrigelyville" / "Ballpark Village" feel outside the stadium. Not worth it though.

 

Yes. Downtown Phoenix is a horsefeathering ghost town, they would do much better in Scottsdale

[Thurman Merman]

About 4 years ago, after visiting my grandparents, my wife and I decided to spend the weekend in downtown Phoenix. We were unaware how dead it was. We honestly thought something was wrong when on a Friday night there was quite literally no one around. We could walk down the middle of the main streets without even the chance of getting hit by a car. There were some cool bars though.

[UMFan83]

this is horsefeathering stupid

 

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What the horsefeathers is wrong with these teams? I could understand the ballpark boom of the 90s-00s replacing those crappy multi-purpose 70's stadiums, adding revenue streams, etc but there was not enough wrong with Turner Field, Rangers Stadium (whatever its called these days) and Chase Field to spend enormous sums of money, public or otherwise.

 

All that said, downtown Phoenix is a depressing mess. Possibly the worst downtown of a major city in the US. They had 20+ years to improve downtown to make the Chase Field location more attractive but everyone is so sprawled out in the metro area that no one goes there (outsider's perspective).

[SouthSideRyan]

The question is what’s wrong with the cities paying for the stadiums. The teams are immoral but not stupid

[javy knows my name]

The question is what’s wrong with the cities paying for the stadiums. The teams are immoral but not stupid

 

If Jeff Loria is ever murdered, you'd be my first suspect, so this is surprising coming from you

[David]

The question is what’s wrong with the cities paying for the stadiums. The teams are immoral but not stupid

 

If Jeff Loria is ever murdered, you'd be my first suspect, so this is surprising coming from you

 

Well, he said it was immoral. It's definitely not stupid to let the cities pay the bill.

[David]

With the Rangers, I at least understand that they built it before the retractable roofs were a thing and it's blazing hot there. The Braves and Diamondbacks ones are way more egregious to me.

[Derwood]

With the Rangers, I at least understand that they built it before the retractable roofs were a thing and it's blazing hot there..

 

It opened 5 years after the Rogers Centre. Retratcable roofs were absolutely a thing

[David]

With the Rangers, I at least understand that they built it before the retractable roofs were a thing and it's blazing hot there..

 

It opened 5 years after the Rogers Centre. Retratcable roofs were absolutely a thing

 

I honestly had no idea. I remember it being a huge deal that Chase had one and I thought that was the first one. Was Chase just the first one to do it with real grass?

[Derwood]

With the Rangers, I at least understand that they built it before the retractable roofs were a thing and it's blazing hot there..

 

It opened 5 years after the Rogers Centre. Retratcable roofs were absolutely a thing

 

I honestly had no idea. I remember it being a huge deal that Chase had one and I thought that was the first one. Was Chase just the first one to do it with real grass?

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[imb]

The question is what’s wrong with the cities paying for the stadiums. The teams are immoral but not stupid

 

If Jeff Loria is ever murdered, you'd be my first suspect, so this is surprising coming from you

 

Well, he said it was immoral. It's definitely not stupid to let the cities pay the bill.

 

I read it like he meant "why are these stupid cities paying for stadiums the teams can absolutely afford," not "why is it wrong that cities are paying for it?"

[David]

 

If Jeff Loria is ever murdered, you'd be my first suspect, so this is surprising coming from you

 

Well, he said it was immoral. It's definitely not stupid to let the cities pay the bill.

 

I read it like he meant "why are these stupid cities paying for stadiums the teams can absolutely afford," not "why is it wrong that cities are paying for it?"

 

i did too. i was just trying to clarify that hating owners (especially extra shitty ones) doesn't necessarily conflict with what he posted about it being immoral but not stupid (of the owners).

[Sammys Boombox]

The engineer who designed the Rangers stadium said it was specifically designed for the ability to add a retractable roof later. The initial costs were much higher to pre-engineer it for a roof.

 

Edit: Having a hard time finding the article that stated this.

[Omar]

About 4 years ago, after visiting my grandparents, my wife and I decided to spend the weekend in downtown Phoenix. We were unaware how dead it was. We honestly thought something was wrong when on a Friday night there was quite literally no one around. We could walk down the middle of the main streets without even the chance of getting hit by a car. There were some cool bars though.

 

Next time go to Scottsdale

[Omar]

The only teams that need a new ballpark are the A's and the Rays.

[Derwood]

The only teams that need a new ballpark are the A's and the Rays.

 

The Rays are better off relocating than spending the money on a ballpark

[SouthSideRyan]

 

If Jeff Loria is ever murdered, you'd be my first suspect, so this is surprising coming from you

 

Well, he said it was immoral. It's definitely not stupid to let the cities pay the bill.

 

I read it like he meant "why are these stupid cities paying for stadiums the teams can absolutely afford," not "why is it wrong that cities are paying for it?"

 

Right. We all know baseball owners are essentially cartoon supervillains. That doesn't mean the city has to comply with their demands.

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mookie betts has a 1.250 ops with great defense in right and guess who is still ahead of him in war

[Sammy Sofa]

Frank Stallone.

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you guessed it

[David]

i'm laughing way too hard at that

[Thed Hoyerstein]

mookie betts has a 1.250 ops with great defense in right and guess who is still ahead of him in war

 

grichuk?

[soccer10k]

mookie betts has a 1.250 ops with great defense in right and guess who is still ahead of him in war

 

grichuk?

 

Only if he got to play the Cubs every game.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

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