9/8 Cubs (Hammel) @ Cardinals (Wacha) 7:15 PM CST, CSN

[Guest]

if baez figures it all out and castro returns to being good...

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/Drewski217/miscell/gifs/fainting.gif

 

then we're back to the too man IF problem

 

i really really am going ot have a hard time trusting castro ever again

 

especially after he looked legitimately improved last year and then pulled this [expletive]

[Cubswin11]

Soler, Torres, Zagunis and Underwood for Sonny Gray, who says no? Edited September 9, 2015 by Cubswin11

[bukie]

if baez figures it all out and castro returns to being good...

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/Drewski217/miscell/gifs/fainting.gif

 

then we're back to the too man IF problem

 

i really really am going ot have a hard time trusting castro ever again

 

especially after he looked legitimately improved last year and then pulled this [expletive]

I read a pretty amazing article about his struggles and how much they were do to being pitched differently and being slow to adjust.

 

I can't find a link now though.

[CubInOK]

Ozzie Smith is talking about current great defensive shortstops making teams better. He never mentioned Addison Russell.

[ARCubsFan]

Soler, Torres, Zagunis and Underwood for Sonny Gray, who says no?

A's definitely say no

[Guest]

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lol this [expletive] was so salty about the cubs getting attention earlier in the season.

[Guest]

rondon why you look so sad

[Brian]

that was almost sexy KB

[Guest]

i would break something if bryant broke a rib laying out playing OF in a 6-0 game

[Gmoney08]

If Javy can be Alfonso Soriano without age and defense issues, that would work out just fine.

 

He is young Sammy with good MIF defense.

[Schwarber Fan]

So close there

[Guest]

Soler, Torres, Zagunis and Underwood for Sonny Gray, who says no?

A's definitely say no

 

They should probably reconsider then

[Sammy Sofa]

Soler, Torres, Zagunis and Underwood for Sonny Gray, who says no?

A's definitely say no

 

You mean you HOPE the A's would say no.

[ARCubsFan]

Soler, Torres, Zagunis and Underwood for Sonny Gray, who says no?

A's definitely say no

 

They should probably reconsider then

I think the deal is close but I don't get why the A's would trade Gray anytime soon. They have him under control for awhile and aces don't grow on trees. Billy Beane has already pissed off that fanbase enough.

[TruffleShuffle]

is a fixed baez our best player development story as far as the minors go?

 

we've obviously had a few guys get a lot better in teh bigs

 

O M G RUSSELL HOW U DO THAT

 

if he ends up being really good, it's hard to say how much is player development and how much is a really young but talented guy just making adjustments after struggling his first time in the bigs. mike trout was bad in his first crack at the bigs, then came up and was 21st century ted williams the next year. rizzo is another one who [expletive] the bed in his first taste in the bigs.

 

i guess the difference with baez is that there seems to be a clear difference with his swing/approach/front leg loading.

[squally1313]

Man I wish that one guy who lost it and went on the homophobic rant was here to see this now...

 

Also, RIP Diamondmind

[davell]

That seems like a pretty decent offer honestly. Especially if Underwood is a 75-125 type prospect.

[NOLA]

The only bad thing about the game is having to listen to Tim McCarver slip in "best record in baseball" every other sentence and now Ozzie yuck it up with the play by play guy.

[Sammy Sofa]

Man I wish that one guy who lost it and went on the homophobic rant was here to see this now...

 

Also, RIP Diamondmind

 

Ah, but maybe them not being here is why this is happening.

[Guest]

is a fixed baez our best player development story as far as the minors go?

 

we've obviously had a few guys get a lot better in teh bigs

 

O M G RUSSELL HOW U DO THAT

 

if he ends up being really good, it's hard to say how much is player development and how much is a really young but talented guy just making adjustments after struggling his first time in the bigs. mike trout was bad in his first crack at the bigs, then came up and was 21st century ted williams the next year. rizzo is another one who [expletive] the bed in his first taste in the bigs.

 

i guess the difference with baez is that there seems to be a clear difference with his swing/approach/front leg loading.

 

rizzo also did those things btw

 

and more than once..well swing/stance

[Sammy Sofa]

OK, but seriously, I thought one of the announcers said earlier "he battled testicular cancer" when talking about Rizzo. I'm not crazy, right? Was he talking about someone else all of a sudden?

[Cubswin11]

What an ab by Russell

[Outshined_One]

Is RIP Diamondmind the new Chocolate Milk meme?

[Guest]

in fact, the concern when we first got rizzo was whether he could get around on a fastball, which, lol nowadays

[MarkMero23]

Serious question, was there some sort of computer glitch in the standings that caused the Cardinals to have the record they have? They look awful.

Their pitching has overachieved to amazingly unsustainable proportions.

 

Their offense hasn't really been able to hit much this year.

 

Not really. They have a extremely high strand rate, but they've still pitched great, just better than their FIP, which is still second to only the Dodgers in all of baseball. So no, they haven't overachieved to amazingly unsustainable proportions.

 

And whenever a team gets blown out, they look terrible. Judging their season performance based off the last two games is silly as the people who judge players off having a bad post season series.

 

But I get it, your Cubs fans who hate the Cardinals, so logic isn't really what you're going to be using when evaluating a rival.

 

The Cardinals can both have a very good pitching staff and overachieve unsustainably, they aren't mutually exclusive. Having a team FIP that is 2nd in the NL means they are good. Having an ERA that is 0.66 better than their FIP(next best gap is the Pirates at 0.25) when their defensive efficiency is middle of the road means that they aren't nearly as good as their results.

 

They've definitely overachieved to a point, but they've sustained it for 140 games. I just hate when people try to simplify things down to luck, instead of giving players credit for their performance. Seems like a lot of Cubs fans do it just so they can feel better about their team being a laughingstock for years. Boiling down the Cardinals being the best team in baseball down to "pixie dust" is stupid on so many levels.