Cubs acquire Dan Haren

[davell]

Wait, we gave up PINEYRO for Haren? What the [expletive] [expletive]!!!!!!!!

 

Soto, I could ALMOST see......

 

 

 

 

 

 

J/K

[Andy]

Prospect guys have any thoughts on Pineyro? Elliot Soto is a nothing, but just from surface numbers Pineyro looks like a decent return from Miami's perspective.

[ARCubsFan]

pineyro noooooooooooooooo

Both Rule 5 guys, no loss

[UMFan83]

We had to start Mark Clark because

 

-Mullholland was probably pitching the best but he pitched 8 innings his last 2 starts, his last start was Sunday (game 162), and he came on in relief in game 163

-Tapani pitched on the last friday of the season and would have been good to go for game 1 on normal rest but was brought in for an inning of relief in game 163

-Trachsel would have been the next choice but he started game 163

-Wood...I am not sure why he wasn't healthy enough to start game 1 but was able to start game 3. I remember there being a lot of talk about whether he should be shut down for the year or pitch in the playoffs and I don't think it was official that he would start game 3 until the day of the game.

 

So it was either Mark Clark or Mike [expletive] Morgan

[Guest]

pineyro noooooooooooooooo

Both Rule 5 guys, no loss

 

wait you thought i was serious?

[Guest]

Prospect guys have any thoughts on Pineyro? Elliot Soto is a nothing, but just from surface numbers Pineyro looks like a decent return from Miami's perspective.

 

You can squint and see a MLB future for Pineyro, but he's not a serious prospect. They got him for a couple months of Scott Hairston, and his value didn't really appreciate much.

 

Soto could have been released tomorrow and no one would have blinked.

[Little Slide Rooter]

I have no problem with this if it is not our only move.

[Deeg]

I wouldn't mind not losing Pinyero, who's not a complete non-prospect, but we would have had to expose him this Winter anyway.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Call me crazy, but this could hypothetically be a precursor to using Hendricks as part of the mythical 3 team mega-deal.

[SouthSideRyan]

John Arguello ‏@CubsDen 6m6 minutes ago

Might be a let down, but Haren throws strikes and gives you an experienced alternative if Lester or Arrieta don't line up for WC game.

 

lmao at arguello

 

Remember that time we started Mark Clark in game 1 against Atlanta? (Or maybe we didn't. That's how I remember it and I'm too lazy to look it up).

 

The '98 Cubs preferred to call him 'our #2 starter'.

 

Not by 4/12/98.

[SouthSideRyan]

pineyro noooooooooooooooo

Both Rule 5 guys, no loss

 

Yeah luckily we got something for Soto before he got plucked in Rule 5.

[UMFan83]

Call me crazy, but this could hypothetically be a precursor to using Hendricks as part of the mythical 3 team mega-deal.

 

we were just discussing that...

[JonJayCutler]

Really thought Miami would get a smidge more than that. We lucked out. Hope it's not the only deal, but I'm very OK with this.

[rawaction]

Call me crazy, but this could hypothetically be a precursor to using Hendricks as part of the mythical 3 team mega-deal.

 

My thought as well

[davell]

We could be thinking Hammel may need a DL stint.

[KrisBryantisaBeast]

Call me crazy, but this could hypothetically be a precursor to using Hendricks as part of the mythical 3 team mega-deal.

 

My thought as well

 

This or they are worried that Hammel isn't healthy and might end up on the DL soon after all.

[Guest]

Really thought Miami would get a smidge more than that. We lucked out. Hope it's not the only deal, but I'm very OK with this.

 

i've heard of pineyro. i expected two guys i had never heard of or maybe that sounded vaguely familiar like jeferson mejia or whatever

[Guest]

John Arguello ‏@CubsDen 6m6 minutes ago

Might be a let down, but Haren throws strikes and gives you an experienced alternative if Lester or Arrieta don't line up for WC game.

 

lmao at arguello

 

Remember that time we started Mark Clark in game 1 against Atlanta? (Or maybe we didn't. That's how I remember it and I'm too lazy to look it up).

 

The '98 Cubs preferred to call him 'our #2 starter'.

 

Not by 4/12/98.

 

It's close on results, but I'll give the edge to Clark on FIP. Anyway the point there was Haren the 5th starter by a country mile isn't going to be getting playoff starts no matter what. Mark Clark one of the best non-Wood starters in '98 was always going to be pitching in that postseason.

[JonJayCutler]

He hasn't been good lately but Haren can swing it a little too.

[sontensei]

He hasn't been good lately but Haren can swing it a little too.

 

At least Haren was cheap and is better than beeler/richards/wada

[sontensei]

We could be thinking Hammel may need a DL stint.

 

yeah he didnt look good past 2 starts, hammy injuries can linger for a while..

[davell]

Everything's so rapid fire, so apologies if this has been addressed....But didn't the Dodgers pay all of Haren's salary in the trade to the Marlins? If so, getting him for no salary makes this seem like a depth move more so than a definitive "he's our 5th guy" type of move anyway....

[Clem Fandango]

Everything's so rapid fire, so apologies if this has been addressed....But didn't the Dodgers pay all of Haren's salary in the trade to the Marlins? If so, getting him for no salary makes this seem like a depth move more so than a definitive "he's our 5th guy" type of move anyway....

 

Yes. They covered the $10 mil contract. Does not cover incentive bonuses though, which are kinda negligible. If he meets all of them he stands to make like $2 million.

 

EDIT:

 

performance bonuses: $0.25M each for 24, 27, 30 starts. $0.5M for 32 starts. $0.25M each for 150, 160, 170 innings. $0.5M each for 180, 190 IP

 

So $3 mil total if he meets them all.

[UMFan83]

I just wanted to point out that this move officially makes us buyers for the first time in 6 years. :cray: (that's supposed to be a happy cry)

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I just wanted to point out that this move officially makes us buyers for the first time in 6 years. :cray: (that's supposed to be a happy cry)

 

So technically we get to do something fun, but we do it in the most boring, stupid, meaningless way possible while all the other teams get to do it better?

 

The Epstein Way.