2015 Cubs-Related Trade Deadline Rumor Thread

[Guest]

The mentality I don't get is the view that the Cubs must not be trying to win if they don't go all in right now.

 

What does "all in" mean? I don't think what is being discussed here comes close to people expecting all in. Nobody is talking about all in. What they are talking about is the stupidity with remaining cautious and hoarding all prospects. This nonsense that it's just not time to try yet and we are too far behind to risk losing even one prospect for a chance at a playoff game.

 

in fact, now is as good as time as any to go "all in." you have a healthy and dominant lester and arrieta, something you're not guaranteed over the next 5 seasons or whatever.

 

and with playoff odds being a near coinflip, it makes more sense than at any time to try to tip the scales. i don't understand this sentiment that the teams that seem to have spots locked up have more incentive to "go for it."

[Clem Fandango]

I guess Im just not convinced adding someone like Ross will let us catch the Giants.

 

You don't have to be convinced, it just has to increase your chances.

 

Not to mention the benefit a cost controlled starter will give in future years.

 

With Ross or Carrasco the cubs can still go sign a top FA SP .. its totally worth it.

 

If they get Ross or Carrasco it's very likely the Cubs will not bother with a top FA SP at all, spending hundreds of millions of dollars to bump Hammel or Hendricks out of the rotation would be silly.

 

Wouldn't that conceivably make them useful bargaining chips for an offensive upgrade though? Or are we to assume by bumping them out of the rotation it lessens their trading value since the Cubs would need to move them vs. wanting to move them?

[Guest]

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 34s35 seconds ago

There is some speculation within the industry about a possible BOS/Cubs/Padres three-way blockbuster taking shape. Lots of pieces that fit.

[Guest]

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 34s35 seconds ago

There is some speculation within the industry about a possible BOS/Cubs/Padres three-way blockbuster taking shape. Lots of pieces that fit.

 

damn beat me to it over here

[Andy]

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 34s35 seconds ago

There is some speculation within the industry about a possible BOS/Cubs/Padres three-way blockbuster taking shape. Lots of pieces that fit.

Sox have been linked to Kimbrel, we've been linked to Ross, SD and Castro is apparently a thing. I wonder what other pieces might be in there. Venable? And who do the Sox give up in such a deal?

[Guest]

somebody speculated essentially Baez for Kimbrel with Ross going to the Red Sox.

 

do not want a relief pitcher. give us Ross.

[Guest]

Yeah I don't quite get that. If the Red Sox are after Kimbrel and not Ross, why do they need the Cubs to get a deal done? And similarly, if the Cubs aren't getting Ross, why would the Red Sox need to be involved?

[Tim17]

somebody speculated essentially Baez for Kimbrel with Ross going to the Red Sox.

 

do not want a relief pitcher. give us Ross.

 

That could really blow up in our face if Kimbrel never regains his previous form. I'd rather have Ross if we're giving up Baez.

[Andy]

somebody speculated essentially Baez for Kimbrel with Ross going to the Red Sox.

 

do not want a relief pitcher. give us Ross.

I would hope Theo wouldn't give up Baez for a reliever. If we really move Javy, we'd better be getting Ross.

[Proven Veteran]

somebody speculated essentially Baez for Kimbrel with Ross going to the Red Sox.

 

do not want a relief pitcher. give us Ross.

 

Yikes.

[Guest]

The mentality I don't get is the view that the Cubs must not be trying to win if they don't go all in right now. The biggest impact the team can make right now is another starter, but beyond that where should they upgrade? SS can be dealt with internally and every other position has either a rookie option that's doing just fine and stands to improve or has Dexter Fowler who is doing well enough for now.

I don't get your mentality. Nothing in the future is certain. Now is the only time that is relevant.

[Guest]

if we're getting Kimbrel, it better be Castro that goes to San Diego and not Baez.

[Guest]

somebody speculated essentially Baez for Kimbrel with Ross going to the Red Sox.

 

do not want a relief pitcher. give us Ross.

 

somebody is a moron

[Guest]

Yeah I don't quite get that. If the Red Sox are after Kimbrel and not Ross, why do they need the Cubs to get a deal done? And similarly, if the Cubs aren't getting Ross, why would the Red Sox need to be involved?

 

after further inspection, it was postulated by a weirdo Red Sox fan.

 

Buster came back with Castro to SD.

[Agony and Ivy]

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 34s35 seconds ago

There is some speculation within the industry about a possible BOS/Cubs/Padres three-way blockbuster taking shape. Lots of pieces that fit.

 

[expletive] it. Do it. I just want something to happen so I can irrationally react one way or another.

[JonJayCutler]

I wish I had the Jonah Hill seat in Theo/Jed's office right now.

[OleMissCub]

DO NOT TRADE BAEZ. He needs another look in the bigs. His swing adjustments appear to have made a critical difference.

 

I want a dynasty made up of ALL our badass young hitters. I want to the chance to see KB, Rizz, Soler, Russell, Schwarber, AND Baez all mashing at the same time and to see how terrifying that would be for opposing pitchers.

 

A fifth starter can surely be found without giving up one of our young studs, especially in a year where we aren't equipped for a playoff run anyways. If we were vying for the division, perhaps I would be reacting differently. Hopefully Theo is really drilling in on a "Castro just needs a change of scenery" strategy.

[Guest]

Yeah I don't quite get that. If the Red Sox are after Kimbrel and not Ross, why do they need the Cubs to get a deal done? And similarly, if the Cubs aren't getting Ross, why would the Red Sox need to be involved?

 

after further inspection, it was postulated by a weirdo Red Sox fan.

 

Buster came back with Castro to SD.

 

The only thing I can think of is that the Cubs are willing to deal Baez in order to get Ross, but they need something more coming back. Maybe picking some undervalued guy they prefer from the Red Sox system(as part of the Sox getting Kimbrel) is more palatable than whatever SD has.

[Guest]

DO NOT TRADE BAEZ. He needs another look in the bigs. His swing adjustments appear to have made a critical difference.

 

I want a dynasty made up of ALL our badass young hitters. I want to the chance to see KB, Rizz, Soler, Russell, Schwarber, AND Baez all mashing at the same time and to see how terrifying that would be for opposing pitchers.

 

A fifth starter can surely be found without giving up one of our young studs, especially in a year where we aren't equipped for a playoff run anyways. If we were vying for the division, perhaps I would be reacting differently. Hopefully Theo is really drilling in on a "Castro just needs a change of scenery" strategy.

 

what

[sontensei]

I find the SD Boston Cubs to be interesting Jed and Theo basically have the in for both organizations... Theo's frat club!

[OleMissCub]

You must have a much higher opinion of this team than I do. To each his own.

[sontensei]

DO NOT TRADE BAEZ. He needs another look in the bigs. His swing adjustments appear to have made a critical difference.

 

I want a dynasty made up of ALL our badass young hitters. I want to the chance to see KB, Rizz, Soler, Russell, Schwarber, AND Baez all mashing at the same time and to see how terrifying that would be for opposing pitchers.

 

A fifth starter can surely be found without giving up one of our young studs, especially in a year where we aren't equipped for a playoff run anyways. If we were vying for the division, perhaps I would be reacting differently. Hopefully Theo is really drilling in on a "Castro just needs a change of scenery" strategy.

 

what

 

Anything can happen look at the royals and giants last year both were wild card and went to the series if the team got hot who knows what will happen!

[CincyCubsFan]

Even with punctuation, I'm not sure that would make any sense.

[Banedon]

DO NOT TRADE BAEZ. He needs another look in the bigs. His swing adjustments appear to have made a critical difference.

 

I want a dynasty made up of ALL our badass young hitters. I want to the chance to see KB, Rizz, Soler, Russell, Schwarber, AND Baez all mashing at the same time and to see how terrifying that would be for opposing pitchers.

 

A fifth starter can surely be found without giving up one of our young studs, especially in a year where we aren't equipped for a playoff run anyways. If we were vying for the division, perhaps I would be reacting differently. Hopefully Theo is really drilling in on a "Castro just needs a change of scenery" strategy.

 

what

 

He's said this a couple of times. *shrug*

[George Hayduke]

especially in a year where we aren't equipped for a playoff run anyways.

 

I don't understand how this keeps being said. The Cubs are already 2/3 of the way through a race for the playoffs and very much in contention.