2015 Bold Predictions Thread

[Guest]

After an incredible spring, Kris Bryant forces himself onto the opening day roster.

He could bat 1.000 with a home run every at bat and that still wouldn't happen.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

rotoworld said he only needs to be in iowa three weeks to get an extra year out of him. is that accurate?

[flyseye]

After an incredible spring, Kris Bryant forces himself onto the opening day roster.

He could bat 1.000 with a home run every at bat and that still wouldn't happen.

 

Well, that's my bold prediction.

[Guest]

rotoworld said he only needs to be in iowa three weeks to get an extra year out of him. is that accurate?

I was pretty sure the rules said > 10 days, but I have seen the same reports as you. Three weeks is more than enough to get that control.

[SouthSideRyan]

rotoworld said he only needs to be in iowa three weeks to get an extra year out of him. is that accurate?

I was pretty sure the rules said > 10 days, but I have seen the same reports as you. Three weeks is more than enough to get that control.

 

I think it's 12 days, Brett's been saying 9 games(due to off days) for the last 8 months.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

rotoworld said he only needs to be in iowa three weeks to get an extra year out of him. is that accurate?

 

The absolute date is like 12 or 13 days into the season. But you usually give yourself another week to give plausible deniability, because holding him down purely for service-time reasons is against the rules and he can file a grievance to get the service time restored.

[Rob]

The Cubs get into May before they realize they don't have a left fielder. They continue to play without one until August.

 

Carlos Zambrano is the new Manny Ramirez and signs a minor league deal with the intent being to focus on instructing the young guys. The media can't get enough circlejerking about how much the kids are learning from him, and how he's really matured.

 

The only player Kaplan is a racist [expletive] towards is "that Latin hothead" Javy Baez.

[jersey cubs fan]

The Cubs get into May before they realize they don't have a left fielder. They continue to play without one until August.

 

Carlos Zambrano is the new Manny Ramirez and signs a minor league deal with the intent being to focus on instructing the young guys. The media can't get enough circlejerking about how much the kids are learning from him, and how he's really matured.

 

The only player Kaplan is a racist [expletive] towards is "that Latin hothead" Javy Baez.

 

Castro was cut?

[imb]

The Cubs get into May before they realize they don't have a left fielder. They continue to play without one until August.

 

Carlos Zambrano is the new Manny Ramirez and signs a minor league deal with the intent being to focus on instructing the young guys. The media can't get enough circlejerking about how much the kids are learning from him, and how he's really matured.

 

The only player Kaplan is a racist [expletive] towards is "that Latin hothead" Javy Baez.

 

Castro was cut?

 

baez has already been photographed taking preemptive bunting practice, so kaplan can ead

[Guest]

rotoworld said he only needs to be in iowa three weeks to get an extra year out of him. is that accurate?

I was pretty sure the rules said > 10 days, but I have seen the same reports as you. Three weeks is more than enough to get that control.

 

I think it's 12 days, Brett's been saying 9 games(due to off days) for the last 8 months.

I read 21 days.

[Tryptamine]

rotoworld said he only needs to be in iowa three weeks to get an extra year out of him. is that accurate?

 

The absolute date is like 12 or 13 days into the season. But you usually give yourself another week to give plausible deniability, because holding him down purely for service-time reasons is against the rules and he can file a grievance to get the service time restored.

 

This is exactly what I've read across several different sites. 13 days, but they'll keep him down for 3 weeks to avoid a grievance.

[Guest]

rotoworld said he only needs to be in iowa three weeks to get an extra year out of him. is that accurate?

 

The absolute date is like 12 or 13 days into the season. But you usually give yourself another week to give plausible deniability, because holding him down purely for service-time reasons is against the rules and he can file a grievance to get the service time restored.

 

Pretty sure this is the correct answer, folks.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

rotoworld said he only needs to be in iowa three weeks to get an extra year out of him. is that accurate?

 

The absolute date is like 12 or 13 days into the season. But you usually give yourself another week to give plausible deniability, because holding him down purely for service-time reasons is against the rules and he can file a grievance to get the service time restored.

 

Pretty sure this is the correct answer, folks.

 

 

To get super technical, a year of service time is 172 days. That's also the most you can accrue in any given season.

 

The season typically lasts 183 days, but that can vary a bit from year to year. This year, it runs from April 5 to Oct 4, which is exactly 183.

 

So as of April 17, there will only be 171 service days available left in the year. So that's technically the earliest they could call him up, except for the grievance thing.

[Derwood]

The entire rule is stupid if everyone knows what teams are doing to get the extra year. How does holding them down an extra week change the perception? It's completely transparent what is going on every time.

[SouthSideRyan]

The entire rule is stupid if everyone knows what teams are doing to get the extra year. How does holding them down an extra week change the perception? It's completely transparent what is going on every time.

 

Because most times service time has nothing to do with holding a guy down 3 weeks. Justin Grimm has spent parts of 3 seasons in the majors yet, he wouldn't be eligible for FA for another 5 seasons.

[jersey cubs fan]

The entire rule is stupid if everyone knows what teams are doing to get the extra year. How does holding them down an extra week change the perception? It's completely transparent what is going on every time.

 

The rule isn't about holding down the occasional superstar. It's about everybody else, to whom service time can easily fluctuate.

[flyseye]

After all the accolades Bryant has recently garnered, if he tears it up this spring the Cubs will look like real cheap schmucks if they send him down. Not to mention all the talk about winning this year. Plus, I would think he would have pretty solid grounds for filing a grievance, should he be so inclined.

 

Sticking with my bold prediction.

[Guest]

After all the accolades Bryant has recently garnered, if he tears it up this spring the Cubs will look like real cheap schmucks if they send him down. Not to mention all of the talk about winning this year. Plus, I would think he would have pretty solid grounds for filing a grievance, should he be so inclined.

 

Sticking with my bold prediction.

 

So do you think it's bold or is it as much of a no-brainer as you're arguing it to be?

 

Either way, nope, not happening. And I counter that they'd look like short sighted idiots (SSR is going to get mad at this post) if they broke camp with him.

[Derwood]

After all the accolades Bryant has recently garnered, if he tears it up this spring the Cubs will look like real cheap schmucks if they send him down. Not to mention all of the talk about winning this year. Plus, I would think he would have pretty solid grounds for filing a grievance, should he be so inclined.

 

Sticking with my bold prediction.

 

So do you think it's bold or is it as much of a no-brainer as you're arguing it to be?

 

Either way, nope, not happening. And I counter that they'd look like short sighted idiots (SSR is going to get mad at this post) if they broke camp with him.

 

What are the chances that Bryant actually goes through the actual arbitration process, though, if he's as good as advertised? Isn't it more likely that they will try to buy out those years and lock him up long term for a semi-reasonable deal a la Rizzo?

[Guest]

After all the accolades Bryant has recently garnered, if he tears it up this spring the Cubs will look like real cheap schmucks if they send him down. Not to mention all of the talk about winning this year. Plus, I would think he would have pretty solid grounds for filing a grievance, should he be so inclined.

 

Sticking with my bold prediction.

 

So do you think it's bold or is it as much of a no-brainer as you're arguing it to be?

 

Either way, nope, not happening. And I counter that they'd look like short sighted idiots (SSR is going to get mad at this post) if they broke camp with him.

I think maybe, if Boras wasn't his agent they might give it a second thought.

[flyseye]

After all the accolades Bryant has recently garnered, if he tears it up this spring the Cubs will look like real cheap schmucks if they send him down. Not to mention all of the talk about winning this year. Plus, I would think he would have pretty solid grounds for filing a grievance, should he be so inclined.

 

Sticking with my bold prediction.

 

So do you think it's bold or is it as much of a no-brainer as you're arguing it to be?

 

Either way, nope, not happening. And I counter that they'd look like short sighted idiots (SSR is going to get mad at this post) if they broke camp with him.

 

Well, he does have to kick ass this spring first, certainly not a given.

[Guest]

After all the accolades Bryant has recently garnered, if he tears it up this spring the Cubs will look like real cheap schmucks if they send him down. Not to mention all of the talk about winning this year. Plus, I would think he would have pretty solid grounds for filing a grievance, should he be so inclined.

 

Sticking with my bold prediction.

 

So do you think it's bold or is it as much of a no-brainer as you're arguing it to be?

 

Either way, nope, not happening. And I counter that they'd look like short sighted idiots (SSR is going to get mad at this post) if they broke camp with him.

 

What are the chances that Bryant actually goes through the actual arbitration process, though, if he's as good as advertised? Isn't it more likely that they will try to buy out those years and lock him up long term for a semi-reasonable deal a la Rizzo?

 

He's a Boras client. Boras clients don't do that very often (if ever?).

 

The extra year has significant value (an extra year in what presumably would be his prime, no less) regardless. Value that they'd be pissing away over 2-3 weeks of his contributions in his rookie year.

[Cubswin11]

After all the accolades Bryant has recently garnered, if he tears it up this spring the Cubs will look like real cheap schmucks if they send him down. Not to mention all of the talk about winning this year. Plus, I would think he would have pretty solid grounds for filing a grievance, should he be so inclined.

 

Sticking with my bold prediction.

 

So do you think it's bold or is it as much of a no-brainer as you're arguing it to be?

 

Either way, nope, not happening. And I counter that they'd look like short sighted idiots (SSR is going to get mad at this post) if they broke camp with him.

I think maybe, if Boras wasn't his agent they might give it a second thought.

What's the precedent for a team breaking camp with a guy with the prospect status of Bryant and forgoing holding him down to gain the year of FA? Has it ever happened?

[Guest]

After all the accolades Bryant has recently garnered, if he tears it up this spring the Cubs will look like real cheap schmucks if they send him down. Not to mention all of the talk about winning this year. Plus, I would think he would have pretty solid grounds for filing a grievance, should he be so inclined.

 

Sticking with my bold prediction.

 

So do you think it's bold or is it as much of a no-brainer as you're arguing it to be?

 

Either way, nope, not happening. And I counter that they'd look like short sighted idiots (SSR is going to get mad at this post) if they broke camp with him.

I think maybe, if Boras wasn't his agent they might give it a second thought.

What's the precedent for a team breaking camp with a guy with the prospect status of Bryant and forgoing holding him down to gain the year of FA? Has it ever happened?

I think it happens all the time. Everyone knows it is part of the game.

[Gilby]

After all the accolades Bryant has recently garnered, if he tears it up this spring the Cubs will look like real cheap schmucks if they send him down. Not to mention all of the talk about winning this year. Plus, I would think he would have pretty solid grounds for filing a grievance, should he be so inclined.

 

Sticking with my bold prediction.

 

So do you think it's bold or is it as much of a no-brainer as you're arguing it to be?

 

Either way, nope, not happening. And I counter that they'd look like short sighted idiots (SSR is going to get mad at this post) if they broke camp with him.

I think maybe, if Boras wasn't his agent they might give it a second thought.

What's the precedent for a team breaking camp with a guy with the prospect status of Bryant and forgoing holding him down to gain the year of FA? Has it ever happened?

 

The Braves did it with Heyward. He homered off Z that opening day.