Cubs Fire Renteria, Hire Maddon

[Tyrant]

So I caught about 30 seconds of Kap & Haugh and they're talking about how Maddon doesn't like the cutter. Is this true and how much should I care?

 

 

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Like Kap even knows what a cutter is

[ConstableRabbit]

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Wittenmeyer claims Theo still hasn't talked to Renteria.

Kaplan was going on on Twitter about how the FO met with Ricky face to face. He did say it was Hoyer, so Wittenmeyer's statement could be true, technically.

[rawaction]

It looks like Maddon isn't a huge fan of young pitchers adding a cutter at the MLB level. Or at least 2+ years ago he wasn't in the particular case of Jeremy Hellickson.

 

“You only pick up a pitch like that (cutter) if the other parts of the package aren’t working or if you need something else, otherwise I prefer you pitch with what you have. Normally, it’s later in your career.”

 

Last year Price, Moore, and Smyly(along with several relievers) all made extensive use of a cutter. Both Price and Smyly threw it more with the Rays than with the Tigers.

 

I was going to say Price for sure threw it a bunch. Before he got traded, I think I saw him K 9 Pirates using primarily his cutter to RH hitters. Nice to have some facts with it. Not that I can imagine he'd interfere with the pitching coach (assuming its still Bosio) with the guys already throwing it (Arrieta).

[jersey cubs fan]

It looks like Maddon isn't a huge fan of young pitchers adding a cutter at the MLB level. Or at least 2+ years ago he wasn't in the particular case of Jeremy Hellickson.

 

“You only pick up a pitch like that (cutter) if the other parts of the package aren’t working or if you need something else, otherwise I prefer you pitch with what you have. Normally, it’s later in your career.”

 

Last year Price, Moore, and Smyly(along with several relievers) all made extensive use of a cutter. Both Price and Smyly threw it more with the Rays than with the Tigers.

 

I was going to say Price for sure threw it a bunch. Before he got traded, I think I saw him K 9 Pirates using primarily his cutter to RH hitters. Nice to have some facts with it. Not that I can imagine he'd interfere with the pitching coach (assuming its still Bosio) with the guys already throwing it (Arrieta).

 

It seems like he doesn't want guys who are doing just fine with their regular stuff adding a cutter, but that wouldn't stop him from having a pitching coach introduce a cutter to a guy who has been less effective without it.

[rawaction]

It looks like Maddon isn't a huge fan of young pitchers adding a cutter at the MLB level. Or at least 2+ years ago he wasn't in the particular case of Jeremy Hellickson.

 

“You only pick up a pitch like that (cutter) if the other parts of the package aren’t working or if you need something else, otherwise I prefer you pitch with what you have. Normally, it’s later in your career.”

 

Last year Price, Moore, and Smyly(along with several relievers) all made extensive use of a cutter. Both Price and Smyly threw it more with the Rays than with the Tigers.

 

I was going to say Price for sure threw it a bunch. Before he got traded, I think I saw him K 9 Pirates using primarily his cutter to RH hitters. Nice to have some facts with it. Not that I can imagine he'd interfere with the pitching coach (assuming its still Bosio) with the guys already throwing it (Arrieta).

 

It seems like he doesn't want guys who are doing just fine with their regular stuff adding a cutter, but that wouldn't stop him from having a pitching coach introduce a cutter to a guy who has been less effective without it.

 

Yeah. Maddon could probably say he wants half his staff to learn to throw with their left hands so the staff is perfectly balanced, and I'd probably buy it. I'm all in on Maddon.

[jersey cubs fan]

I remain very skeptical about Maddon and his ability to make much of a difference on the field. I fear this has as much to do with providing a cost effective PR boost as making the team better. A 5/25 contract for a manager seems to have a lot of people falling head over heals while a 5/25 pitcher isn't going to create any excitement.

 

They have a dwindling season ticket list and need to renegotiate TV rights. It used to be the Cubs would do something to boost excitement right around the time of the convention to carry over into spring training and single game ticket sales. They've more or less abandoned that process the past few years and now you have something that is being perceived as the most exciting thing to happen to the Cubs since Theo was hired, so it appears to be working.

 

I really don't see Maddon making a huge difference in the win/loss column, but as long as he isn't the featured offseason acquisition he appears to be now, I'm moderately happy about it.

[WrigleyField 22]

I definitely don't find myself as in love as the rest of the board seems. If it fell through I won't be heartbroken at all.

 

 

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[jersey cubs fan]

I definitely don't find myself as in love as the rest of the board seems. If it fell through I won't be heartbroken at all.

 

I'd be really concerned about where this leaves Renteria, especially in the eyes of the players.

[WrigleyField 22]

I definitely don't find myself as in love as the rest of the board seems. If it fell through I won't be heartbroken at all.

 

I'd be really concerned about where this leaves Renteria, especially in the eyes of the players.

Well that's definitely true at this point. I guess if it had fallen apart like 3 days ago I wouldn't have cared though.

 

 

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[Deeg]

Funnily enough, Chris Denofria - who's been mentioned as a potential Cubs target this offseason (I'll pass) just tweeted that Maddon was about to become the Cubs' manager.

[jersey cubs fan]

Funnily enough, Chris Denofria - who's been mentioned as a potential Cubs target this offseason (I'll pass) just tweeted that Maddon was about to become the Cubs' manager.

 

We tweet all of the breaking news stories about professional MLB player Chris Denorfia. This account is not affiliated with Chris Denorfia.

[UMFan83]

I definitely don't find myself as in love as the rest of the board seems. If it fell through I won't be heartbroken at all.

 

I'd be really concerned about where this leaves Renteria, especially in the eyes of the players.

 

Meh, they will get over it. Theo would explain that they love Ricky, but they had a chance to get one of the highest regarded managers in baseball and went for it.

 

They might have to put their money where their mouth is and extend Ricky for an extra year or two though.

[Billy_Buck]

Funnily enough, Chris Denofria - who's been mentioned as a potential Cubs target this offseason (I'll pass) just tweeted that Maddon was about to become the Cubs' manager.

Then I'll guess that you're not responsible for this:

Christopher Anthony Denorfia (born July 15, 1980) is an American professional baseball player who is currently a free agent, and better than reigning World Series MVP Madison Bumgarner.

[Deeg]

Funnily enough, Chris Denofria - who's been mentioned as a potential Cubs target this offseason (I'll pass) just tweeted that Maddon was about to become the Cubs' manager.

 

We tweet all of the breaking news stories about professional MLB player Chris Denorfia. This account is not affiliated with Chris Denorfia.

 

Which begs the the question: how is this in any way news about Chris Denofria?

[jersey cubs fan]

Funnily enough, Chris Denofria - who's been mentioned as a potential Cubs target this offseason (I'll pass) just tweeted that Maddon was about to become the Cubs' manager.

 

We tweet all of the breaking news stories about professional MLB player Chris Denorfia. This account is not affiliated with Chris Denorfia.

 

Which begs the the question :how is this in any way news about Chris Denofria?

 

the account only seems to exist to link to random baseball related articles a couple times a day

[Felix Leiter]

I definitely don't find myself as in love as the rest of the board seems. If it fell through I won't be heartbroken at all.

 

I'd be really concerned about where this leaves Renteria, especially in the eyes of the players.

 

Oh please! It's a business. Are you really concerned about Edwin Jackson's feelings? Wonder how Castillo will deal with such trauma? A number of the up and coming younger players wouldn't know Ricky from Len Kasper. They just want a chance to play and prove themselves. If I'm a free agent, Maddon has a resume.

[jersey cubs fan]

I definitely don't find myself as in love as the rest of the board seems. If it fell through I won't be heartbroken at all.

 

I'd be really concerned about where this leaves Renteria, especially in the eyes of the players.

 

Oh please! It's a business. Are you really concerned about Edwin Jackson's feelings? Wonder how Castillo will deal with such trauma? A number of the up and coming younger players wouldn't know Ricky from Len Kasper. They just want a chance to play and prove themselves. If I'm a free agent, Maddon has a resume.

 

You aren't good at reading comprehension, are you?

[Felix Leiter]

I definitely don't find myself as in love as the rest of the board seems. If it fell through I won't be heartbroken at all.

 

I'd be really concerned about where this leaves Renteria, especially in the eyes of the players.

 

Oh please! It's a business. Are you really concerned about Edwin Jackson's feelings? Wonder how Castillo will deal with such trauma? A number of the up and coming younger players wouldn't know Ricky from Len Kasper. They just want a chance to play and prove themselves. If I'm a free agent, Maddon has a resume.

 

You aren't good at reading comprehension, are you?

 

I'd be really concerned about where this leaves Renteria, especially in the eyes of the players.

 

You aren't real good at remembering what you wrote. But you do back peddle good. Starting now.

[jersey cubs fan]

I definitely don't find myself as in love as the rest of the board seems. If it fell through I won't be heartbroken at all.

 

I'd be really concerned about where this leaves Renteria, especially in the eyes of the players.

 

Oh please! It's a business. Are you really concerned about Edwin Jackson's feelings? Wonder how Castillo will deal with such trauma? A number of the up and coming younger players wouldn't know Ricky from Len Kasper. They just want a chance to play and prove themselves. If I'm a free agent, Maddon has a resume.

 

You aren't good at reading comprehension, are you?

 

I'd be really concerned about where this leaves Renteria, especially in the eyes of the players.

 

You aren't real good at remembering what you wrote. But you do back peddle good. Starting now.

 

The discussion you quoted was in regards to if the Maddon hiring fell through.

 

 

This has nothing to do with people's feelings.

Edited October 31, 2014 by jersey cubs fan

[SABR Gamer]

The discussion you quoted was in regards to if the Maddon hiring fell through.

 

 

This has nothing to do with people's feelings.

 

 

FTFY.

 

Yeah, Felix, you're confused.

[jersey cubs fan]

The discussion you quoted was in regards to if the Maddon hiring fell through.

 

 

This has nothing to do with people's feelings.

 

 

FTFY.

 

Yeah, Felix, you're confused.

oops

 

thanks

[Felix Leiter]

The discussion you quoted was in regards to if the Maddon hiring fell through.

 

 

This has nothing to do with people's feelings.

 

 

FTFY.

 

Yeah, Felix, you're confused.

 

Right. On hold with Mike Franseca I see.

[Felix Leiter]

The discussion you quoted was in regards to if the Maddon hiring fell through.

 

 

This has nothing to do with people's feelings.

thanks

 

Editing your mistakes won't help you. You remain confused and fell down in the process. Laughable.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

What the [expletive]?

[Sammy Sofa]

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