Hammel/Samardzija Traded to A's for Russell/McKinney/Straily

[illiniguy]

What was the last team to have a collection of hitting prospects this good?

Nobody

 

 

 

 

 

 

seriously

How close were the royals? And dbacks with Upton, cargo, drew, parra, Montero?

Edited July 5, 2014 by illiniguy

[Clem Fandango]

Which lineup would you rather have:

 

C Castillo

1B Rizzo

2B Baez

SS Castro

3B Russell

LF Bryant

CF Alcantara

RF Soler

 

or

 

C Castillo

1B Rizzo

2B Baez

SS Castro

3B Valbuena/Villanueva

LF Bryant

CF Alcantara

RF Stanton

 

Is this a trick question? If the Cubs can miraculously get Stanton while only losing Russell from that first lineup how do you possibly not do it?

 

Everyone keeps talking about having all our guys in the lineup, but I think they use Russell as bait for a blockbuster.

 

Russell, Soler, Almora (+ one of Johnson, Edwards, Tseng if it's required after that much). They can make that deal, and it would be fair value for Stanton, and it wouldn't even remotely cripple the Cubs at all.

 

Having Russel in the system, to me, means the Cubs can make a deal like that and not even sweat it.

Edited July 5, 2014 by The Logan

[Fro]

Passan confirms we do get a PTBNL as well in the trade

[Bobson Dugnutt]

Does this make Castro the longest tenured Cub?

 

After being underwhelmed at first, I'm a big fan. Russell is awesome.

Not only that, unless I'm missing someone, Rizzo is second

 

james russell

I knew I'd miss someone. Still that's nuts.

 

Barney?

[Bryants Disco Ball]

Which lineup would you rather have:

 

C Castillo

1B Rizzo

2B Baez

SS Castro

3B Russell

LF Bryant

CF Alcantara

RF Soler

 

or

 

C Castillo

1B Rizzo

2B Baez

SS Castro

3B Valbuena/Villanueva

LF Bryant

CF Alcantara

RF Stanton

 

Is this a trick question? If the Cubs can miraculously get Stanton while only losing Russell and Soler from that first lineup how do you possibly not do it?

 

Well, and Soler. But, yeah.

 

I take the first lineup only because I really like that one too and we can then use the $25 per on Stanton for pitching.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Straily's fangraphs page is just *crying* to have some Bosio administered. He should contribute in 2015.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Does this make Castro the longest tenured Cub?

 

After being underwhelmed at first, I'm a big fan. Russell is awesome.

Not only that, unless I'm missing someone, Rizzo is second

 

james russell

 

And Barney. Kind of Brian Schlitter.

[Guest]

What was the last team to have a collection of hitting prospects this good?

Nobody

 

 

 

 

 

 

seriously

How close were the royals?

They weren't nearly as deep. Our fourth best hitting prospect is getting top 20 love. Our top six are all top 50 guys on many lists. We should have 8 and could have 9-10 hitters in the top 100.

 

That is insane.

[Sammy Sofa]

Which lineup would you rather have:

 

C Castillo

1B Rizzo

2B Baez

SS Castro

3B Russell

LF Bryant

CF Alcantara

RF Soler

 

or

 

C Castillo

1B Rizzo

2B Baez

SS Castro

3B Valbuena/Villanueva

LF Bryant

CF Alcantara

RF Stanton

 

Is this a trick question? If the Cubs can miraculously get Stanton while only losing Russell and Soler from that first lineup how do you possibly not do it?

 

Well, and Soler. But, yeah.

 

I take the first lineup only because I really like that one too and we can then use the $25 per on Stanton for pitching.

 

They already have plenty of money to spend on pitching; use this embarrassment of riches to get an impact player ASAP.

[Clem Fandango]

Which lineup would you rather have:

 

C Castillo

1B Rizzo

2B Baez

SS Castro

3B Russell

LF Bryant

CF Alcantara

RF Soler

 

or

 

C Castillo

1B Rizzo

2B Baez

SS Castro

3B Valbuena/Villanueva

LF Bryant

CF Alcantara

RF Stanton

 

Is this a trick question? If the Cubs can miraculously get Stanton while only losing Russell and Soler from that first lineup how do you possibly not do it?

 

Well, and Soler. But, yeah.

 

I take the first lineup only because I really like that one too and we can then use the $25 per on Stanton for pitching.

 

when the Cubs start selling out again money shouldn't be as much of a barrier. They could extend Stanton AND sign a Scherzer or a Lester if they really wanted to. Everyone else is basically lockedu p already, affordable arbitration, or league minimum

[Andy]

Does this make Castro the longest tenured Cub?

 

After being underwhelmed at first, I'm a big fan. Russell is awesome.

Not only that, unless I'm missing someone, Rizzo is second

 

james russell

I knew I'd miss someone. Still that's nuts.

 

Barney?

I quit

[Guest]

+ Russell is like getting Gray+butler in the same deal, f pitchers foreva

+ Straily does have a strong platoon split, bosio-bait fer sure

+ McKinney & ptbnl is no joke

 

- hurts 2015, Russell realistically has 2016 impact

- makes FA SP a higher priority

- Russell's injury can't be ignored completely

[TruffleShuffle]

Which lineup would you rather have:

 

C Castillo

1B Rizzo

2B Baez

SS Castro

3B Russell

LF Bryant

CF Alcantara

RF Soler

 

or

 

C Castillo

1B Rizzo

2B Baez

SS Castro

3B Valbuena/Villanueva

LF Bryant

CF Alcantara

RF Stanton

 

Is this a trick question? If the Cubs can miraculously get Stanton while only losing Russell from that first lineup how do you possibly not do it?

 

Everyone keeps talking about having all our guys in the lineup, but I think they use Russell as bait for a blockbuster.

 

Russell, Soler, Almora (+ one of Johnson, Edwards, Tseng if it's required after that much). They can make that deal, and it would be fair value for Stanton, and it wouldn't even remotely cripple the Cubs at all.

 

Having Russel in the system, to me, means the Cubs can make a deal like that and not even sweat it.

 

i proposed baez, alcantara, p. johnson, almora, beeler for stanton and andrew heaney on the last page. just go for a mega-deal and grab a top pitching prospect as well as a beast in right field.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

Which lineup would you rather have:

 

C Castillo

1B Rizzo

2B Baez

SS Castro

3B Russell

LF Bryant

CF Alcantara

RF Soler

 

or

 

C Castillo

1B Rizzo

2B Baez

SS Castro

3B Valbuena/Villanueva

LF Bryant

CF Alcantara

RF Stanton

 

Is this a trick question? If the Cubs can miraculously get Stanton while only losing Russell and Soler from that first lineup how do you possibly not do it?

 

Well, and Soler. But, yeah.

 

I take the first lineup only because I really like that one too and we can then use the $25 per on Stanton for pitching.

 

when the Cubs start selling out again money shouldn't be as much of a barrier. They could extend Stanton AND sign a Scherzer or a Lester if they really wanted to. Everyone else is basically lockedu p already, affordable arbitration, or league minimum

 

I'm not ready to believe that they are going to be spending big money again until around 2020, but if what you say is true, for sure I'd be down with all of that.

[Clem Fandango]

Which lineup would you rather have:

 

C Castillo

1B Rizzo

2B Baez

SS Castro

3B Russell

LF Bryant

CF Alcantara

RF Soler

 

or

 

C Castillo

1B Rizzo

2B Baez

SS Castro

3B Valbuena/Villanueva

LF Bryant

CF Alcantara

RF Stanton

 

Is this a trick question? If the Cubs can miraculously get Stanton while only losing Russell and Soler from that first lineup how do you possibly not do it?

 

Well, and Soler. But, yeah.

 

I take the first lineup only because I really like that one too and we can then use the $25 per on Stanton for pitching.

 

when the Cubs start selling out again money shouldn't be as much of a barrier. They could extend Stanton AND sign a Scherzer or a Lester if they really wanted to. Everyone else is basically lockedu p already, affordable arbitration, or league minimum

 

I'm not ready to believe that they are going to be spending big money again until around 2020, but if what you say is true, for sure I'd be down with all of that.

 

I think davell did the math and showed that the Cubs were gonna be sitting at like a ~$50-$60 million payroll at the start of 2015. They can do it immediately.

[Clem Fandango]

Which lineup would you rather have:

 

C Castillo

1B Rizzo

2B Baez

SS Castro

3B Russell

LF Bryant

CF Alcantara

RF Soler

 

or

 

C Castillo

1B Rizzo

2B Baez

SS Castro

3B Valbuena/Villanueva

LF Bryant

CF Alcantara

RF Stanton

 

Is this a trick question? If the Cubs can miraculously get Stanton while only losing Russell from that first lineup how do you possibly not do it?

 

Everyone keeps talking about having all our guys in the lineup, but I think they use Russell as bait for a blockbuster.

 

Russell, Soler, Almora (+ one of Johnson, Edwards, Tseng if it's required after that much). They can make that deal, and it would be fair value for Stanton, and it wouldn't even remotely cripple the Cubs at all.

 

Having Russel in the system, to me, means the Cubs can make a deal like that and not even sweat it.

 

i proposed baez, alcantara, p. johnson, almora, beeler for stanton and andrew heaney on the last page. just go for a mega-deal and grab a top pitching prospect as well as a beast in right field.

 

I included Soler because I automatically assume they'd want a RF replacement whose near MLB ready and also for the superficial reason that he's Cuban and they can market him to their fanbase. But I like your idea, too. Getting Heaney in a mega deal would be silly

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I think davell did the math and showed that the Cubs were gonna be sitting at like a ~$50-$60 million payroll at the start of 2015. They can do it immediately.

 

I got about $55m if they fill out the roster with minimum guys.

 

And that's with an entire infield, probably some outfielders, starting catcher, three pitchers (four if you like Hendricks or Straily) and the entire bullpen already in place.

 

They can afford anything they want this offseason. whether they *will* or not is a different question.

[TruffleShuffle]

i proposed baez, alcantara, p. johnson, almora, beeler for stanton and andrew heaney on the last page. just go for a mega-deal and grab a top pitching prospect as well as a beast in right field.

 

I included Soler because I automatically assume they'd want a RF replacement whose near MLB ready and also for the superficial reason that he's Cuban and they can market him to their fanbase.

 

yeah, soler makes a lot more sense than someone like almora because soler would be blocked by stanton. sub out almora for soler. think that's a reasonable haul for stanton and a top MLB ready pitcher.

[Clem Fandango]

I think davell did the math and showed that the Cubs were gonna be sitting at like a ~$50-$60 million payroll at the start of 2015. They can do it immediately.

 

I got about $55m if they fill out the roster with minimum guys.

 

And that's with an entire infield, probably some outfielders, starting catcher, three pitchers (four if you like Hendricks or Straily) and the entire bullpen already in place.

 

They can afford anything they want this offseason. whether they *will* or not is a different question.

 

Considering Hoyer said they'd spend on pitching this offseason, I think they will. Seriously this trade is like the best [expletive] thing that could've ever happened for the immediate future of this team.

Edited July 5, 2014 by The Logan

[Bryants Disco Ball]

I think davell did the math and showed that the Cubs were gonna be sitting at like a ~$50-$60 million payroll at the start of 2015. They can do it immediately.

 

I got about $55m if they fill out the roster with minimum guys.

 

And that's with an entire infield, probably some outfielders, starting catcher, three pitchers (four if you like Hendricks or Straily) and the entire bullpen already in place.

 

They can afford anything they want this offseason. whether they *will* or not is a different question.

 

Agreed on it for this season, but if they are not going to be willing to spend big on payroll until a new TV deal in 2020, it's the 2017 season that starts to get tricky.

 

Edit to add: Although we would have a lot of cheap guys that could fill out our lineup. So, maybe I'm wrong.

[Clem Fandango]

I think davell did the math and showed that the Cubs were gonna be sitting at like a ~$50-$60 million payroll at the start of 2015. They can do it immediately.

 

I got about $55m if they fill out the roster with minimum guys.

 

And that's with an entire infield, probably some outfielders, starting catcher, three pitchers (four if you like Hendricks or Straily) and the entire bullpen already in place.

 

They can afford anything they want this offseason. whether they *will* or not is a different question.

 

Agreed on it for this season, but if they are not going to be willing to spend big on payroll until a new TV deal in 2020, it's the 2017 season that starts to get tricky.

 

Edit to add: Although we would have a lot of cheap guys that could fill out our lineup. So, maybe I'm wrong.

 

I don't think they'll reach $150 million or anything, but they could be at $90-$100 million easy and still have a potentially elite team. They wouldn't NEED to have a $150+ million payroll

[ConstableRabbit]

I am really really happy with this.

[Guest]

Seriously this trade is like the best [expletive] thing that could've ever happened for the immediate near future of this team.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Edit to add: Although we would have a lot of cheap guys that could fill out our lineup. So, maybe I'm wrong.

 

Yeah. I'm saying you could give Scherzer the Robinson Cano deal, add a veteran outfielder and *still* lower payroll by another $12m or so.

[Sammy Sofa]

Seriously this trade is like the best [expletive] thing that could've ever happened for the immediate future of this team.

 

Zah?