2015 Draft Discussion

[Guest]

@CSNMooney: Theo on STL getting a competitive-balance pick: "That's probably the last organization in baseball that needs that kind of an annual gift."

[A New Era]

@CSNMooney: Theo on STL getting a competitive-balance pick: "That's probably the last organization in baseball that needs that kind of an annual gift."

 

Hell ya, you tell 'em Theo! Cuck the Fardnals

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

That's about as un-PC of a quote I've ever seen from Theo. Drop them gloves, mf'er.

[seanimal]

it's kind of crazy to me that things seem so harmonious amongst the ownership in baseball. if i'm anything other than the bottom 10-15 markets, i'm would be violently against the rigging of the system towards them. those guys were already living the dream thanks to revenue sharing, publicly-funded stadiums, etc. now they get to essentially horde the lion's share of young, cheap talent in an age when players are being locked into team-friendly contracts into or sometimes through their prime?

[jersey cubs fan]

it's kind of crazy to me that things seem so harmonious amongst the ownership in baseball. if i'm anything other than the bottom 10-15 markets, i'm would be violently against the rigging of the system towards them. those guys were already living the dream thanks to revenue sharing, publicly-funded stadiums, etc. now they get to essentially horde the lion's share of young, cheap talent in an age when players are being locked into team-friendly contracts into or sometimes through their prime?

 

The way the system is set-up, the big market teams are making the most money by far thanks to their local TV deals. The comp draft pick is a relatively minor bone to throw to the poors so they will keep playing along with a system rigged heavily to profit the biggest organizations.

[Irrelevant Dude]

@CSNMooney: Theo on STL getting a competitive-balance pick: "That's probably the last organization in baseball that needs that kind of an annual gift."

Good for Theo. It's too bad the none of the owners voted against this during collective bargaining. I know it isn't worth getting worked up over, but I hate this system so much.

[seanimal]

it's kind of crazy to me that things seem so harmonious amongst the ownership in baseball. if i'm anything other than the bottom 10-15 markets, i'm would be violently against the rigging of the system towards them. those guys were already living the dream thanks to revenue sharing, publicly-funded stadiums, etc. now they get to essentially horde the lion's share of young, cheap talent in an age when players are being locked into team-friendly contracts into or sometimes through their prime?

 

The way the system is set-up, the big market teams are making the most money by far thanks to their local TV deals. The comp draft pick is a relatively minor bone to throw to the poors so they will keep playing along with a system rigged heavily to profit the biggest organizations.

 

i'm struggling to understand how the example of getting local broadcast money equates to a "system rigged"

 

in some sense, it's a debate between the haves and the have-more's and #whocares, but if i'm a spender, i'm not particularly inclined to let the non-spenders benefit disproportionately, which i think they are. and not necessarily because of the "competitive balance pick", though that did set off my rant

[jersey cubs fan]

it's kind of crazy to me that things seem so harmonious amongst the ownership in baseball. if i'm anything other than the bottom 10-15 markets, i'm would be violently against the rigging of the system towards them. those guys were already living the dream thanks to revenue sharing, publicly-funded stadiums, etc. now they get to essentially horde the lion's share of young, cheap talent in an age when players are being locked into team-friendly contracts into or sometimes through their prime?

 

The way the system is set-up, the big market teams are making the most money by far thanks to their local TV deals. The comp draft pick is a relatively minor bone to throw to the poors so they will keep playing along with a system rigged heavily to profit the biggest organizations.

 

i'm struggling to understand how the example of getting local broadcast money equates to a "system rigged"

 

in some sense, it's a debate between the haves and the have-more's and #whocares, but if i'm a spender, i'm not particularly inclined to let the non-spenders benefit disproportionately, which i think they are. and not necessarily because of the "competitive balance pick", though that did set off my rant

 

MLB is structured in a way that the owners of the biggest teams have benefited far more, and are in position to benefit far more for the foreseeable future, than the smaller markets. A decade ago there was a strong push to try and spread the profits but in the end all they did was share a little bit and give them a relatively minor thing, the comp draft pick.

 

The big owners don't care about the comp pick. It is meaningless in the grand scheme of their earning hundreds of millions of dollars while the schmoes try and turn relatively minimal profits. It is appeasement so as to keep those schmoes, and some middle market teams on the side of the big guys.

 

You are making a much bigger deal out of the comp pick than any owner. They aren't getting screwed.

[seanimal]

like i said, while the comp balance pick incited the rant, it isn't the support or justification for it. the subsidy is so strong that teams on the lower end can turn profits while having abysmally low gates and minimal investment into the product. profits aren't scraps. scraps are scraps

[Guest]

like i said, while the comp balance pick incited the rant, it isn't the support or justification for it. the subsidy is so strong that teams on the lower end can turn profits while having abysmally low gates and minimal investment into the product. profits aren't scraps. scraps are scraps

Loria has made a killing on the Marlins. He uses them to fund his art business and makes even more than he does on baseball.

[davell]

Looks like Aiken may be headed to Yavapai JC in Arizona.

[jumbo]

Looks like Aiken may be headed to Yavapai JC in Arizona.

 

I expected him to go JUCO. Hold it together for another season and still a top pick.

[Guest]

@keithlaw: No, he was just an early top name, several guys ahead of him though. RT @JGLUCK777: Daz Cameron still the best draft prospect?

[Guest]

It appears a UCLA commit could be the top prep arm for the third time in four years in the 2015 draft (following Fried in 2012 and Aiken in 2014). The two top candidates are both lefties, Bay area prospect Justin Hooper, who hit 97 at the PG All-American Classic in San Diego last night and Orange County's Kolby Allard, who was yesterday's MVP: http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/power-arms-silence-east-bats-perfect-game-american-classic/?sm_id=social_20140811_29533786

 

All in all, 2015 is shaping up to be another draft with a lot of prep power arms.

[Guest]

Cubs 2014 draftee Isaiah Gilliam was runner-up in the HR derby yesterday. He lost to Georgia prep 1B Brandt Stallings.

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/pitching-dominates-perfect-game-all-american-classic-in-san-diego?ymd=20140811&content_id=89034046&vkey=news_mlb

[Guest]

Cubs 2014 draftee Isaiah Gilliam was runner-up in the HR derby yesterday. He lost to Georgia prep 1B Brandt Stallings.

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/pitching-dominates-perfect-game-all-american-classic-in-san-diego?ymd=20140811&content_id=89034046&vkey=news_mlb

I'm not convinced I'd rather have Cease than Gilliam.

[Tryptamine]

Cubs 2014 draftee Isaiah Gilliam was runner-up in the HR derby yesterday. He lost to Georgia prep 1B Brandt Stallings.

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/pitching-dominates-perfect-game-all-american-classic-in-san-diego?ymd=20140811&content_id=89034046&vkey=news_mlb

I'm not convinced I'd rather have Cease than Gilliam.

 

Not signing Gilliam was my biggest regret from this last draft. I would have easily given up one of Cease/Steele/Sands for him.

[Cubswin11]

Speaking of, has Cease had TJS yet?

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Speaking of, has Cease had TJS yet?

Yes, last month.

[Cubswin11]

If someone wouldn't mind posting or summarizing it would be appreciated. Just post on hitters, no need to hear about the pitchers.

 

New draft blog post for Insiders - notes on top '15 prospects from this year's @PGAllAmerican and @ACBaseballGames: http://klaw.me/1yrBu9e

[Guest]

Under Armour All-America game tonight at Wrigley. Here's a BA piece on yesterday's Under Armour workout day: http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/armour-america-game-workout-recap/?sm_id=social_20140816_29895446

[Guest]

MLB.com's preview of tonight's game: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/top-amateur-prospects-set-to-show-their-skills?ymd=20140815&content_id=89834560&vkey=news_mlb

 

Game will be broadcast tomorrow at 7 pm CT on MLB Network.

[Guest]

If someone wouldn't mind posting or summarizing it would be appreciated. Just post on hitters, no need to hear about the pitchers.

 

New draft blog post for Insiders - notes on top '15 prospects from this year's @PGAllAmerican and @ACBaseballGames: http://klaw.me/1yrBu9e

 

SS Brendan Rogers is the top prep positional prospect, Daz Cameron is slipping and LHP Kolby Allard was the most impressive pitcher last weekend (he did win MVP).

[seanimal]

If someone wouldn't mind posting or summarizing it would be appreciated. Just post on hitters, no need to hear about the pitchers.

 

New draft blog post for Insiders - notes on top '15 prospects from this year's @PGAllAmerican and @ACBaseballGames: http://klaw.me/1yrBu9e

 

SS Brendan Rogers is the top prep positional prospect, Daz Cameron is slipping and LHP Kolby Allard was the most impressive pitcher last weekend (he did win MVP).

 

obviously this is all still very fluid, but what do we guess the draft strategy is next year? best positionals available in the first couple of rounds, need filling the rest of the way? or do we roll the dice on a top-flight arm? i suspect they're always in a best-available mindset, but their schwarber pick suggests they were at least considering org positional depth as a deciding factor

[Guest]

If someone wouldn't mind posting or summarizing it would be appreciated. Just post on hitters, no need to hear about the pitchers.

 

New draft blog post for Insiders - notes on top '15 prospects from this year's @PGAllAmerican and @ACBaseballGames: http://klaw.me/1yrBu9e

 

SS Brendan Rogers is the top prep positional prospect, Daz Cameron is slipping and LHP Kolby Allard was the most impressive pitcher last weekend (he did win MVP).

 

obviously this is all still very fluid, but what do we guess the draft strategy is next year? best positionals available in the first couple of rounds, need filling the rest of the way? or do we roll the dice on a top-flight arm? i suspect they're always in a best-available mindset, but their schwarber pick suggests they were at least considering org positional depth as a deciding factor

 

I would hope they just go BPA because this is hopefully their last chance to add a top 10 talent to the system for some time.

 

It's an interesting thought that they might roll the dice on a college arm with the thought that they're nearly ready to compete and top pitchers are a weakness at the top levels. That said, I'm not sure organizational depth wasn't as big a factor with Schwarber since just about everyone thinks he can't stick at C.