Week 9 - MNF: Bears (4-3) @ Green Bay (5-2) - 7:40 PM, ESPN

[rawaction]

If Ratliffe can give anything, the Bears defense suddenly looks much better. Yes the safeties look bad, but when your lien gets no pressure you will get hammered. A better line makes the entire defense better.

 

Agreed. Before this game I thought the Bears were destined for 6-10, 7-9. Now I think they could finish anywhere from 8-8 to 10-6

 

Naw, they were never going to finish that bad with the teams left on the schedule. 8 wins was probably the minimum, even with McCown playing multiple games. The issue for me was always winning this and the next game. If they didn't win 1, the season was over basically.

[Wilson A2000]

Trestman trusting McCown with the full offense is the entire story, period

Not really. Offense performed as expected. The story was Rodgers.

 

You expected the Bears to put up 27 points and McCown to go for 270 and 2 TD's on the road?

[UMFan83]

Bears fans are loud as hell on ESPN's set at Lambeau. Good stuff

[jersey cubs fan]

Trestman trusting McCown with the full offense is the entire story, period

Not really. Offense performed as expected. The story was Rodgers.

 

You expected the Bears to put up 27 points and McCown to go for 270 and 2 TD's on the road?

More or less. The offense is good and the defense is bad. I expected a 40-24 type loss.

[mul21]

So Cutler and Briggs are out vs. Rodgers and Mathews (looking at this simply, there are obviously more out for both sides). 2 questions:

 

1) Are the Bears without Cutler and Briggs better than the Packers without Rodgers and Mathews?

2) Does this show say anything about how much Rodgers is better than Cutler, or does this show how much better McCown is than Wallace? Or both?

 

I think it shows how good Trestman et al are at recognizing their player's strengths and putting them in a position to succeed.

[Wilson A2000]

Now do you go with Ratliffe (assuming he's healthy and even when he was healthy he was bad) and Wooton in the middle and Shea and Peppers on the ends or will Wooton move to the end at times?

[Sosa21MVP]

I don't care how it happened, this win keeps the Bears in a good position. 3-way tie for first in the NFC North with identical division records. Jay possibly back next week. Defense still concerns me obviously. But this was a huge win.

[UMFan83]

If Ratliffe can give anything, the Bears defense suddenly looks much better. Yes the safeties look bad, but when your lien gets no pressure you will get hammered. A better line makes the entire defense better.

 

Agreed. Before this game I thought the Bears were destined for 6-10, 7-9. Now I think they could finish anywhere from 8-8 to 10-6

 

Naw, they were never going to finish that bad with the teams left on the schedule. 8 wins was probably the minimum, even with McCown playing multiple games. The issue for me was always winning this and the next game. If they didn't win 1, the season was over basically.

 

I know there are a lot of bad teams on the schedule but I was really disheartened by the Bears performance against the Skins.....45 points allowed, 500 yards allowed. I figured pretty much every team would be able to move at will against us. There were times when the Packers did that tonight even with Wallace out there.

[BigSlick]

Trestman trusting McCown with the full offense is the entire story, period

Not really. Offense performed as expected. The story was Rodgers.

 

You expected the Bears to put up 27 points and McCown to go for 270 and 2 TD's on the road?

I wouldn't have been surprised to have seen 27 points from McCown, I just expected 35+ from the Packers.

 

Defensive line had a good day (pass rushing). Dunno how much of that is on the Pack offensive line, or signs of life from Peppers and McClellin. Shea still isn't a starting 4-3 defensive line though.

[WrigleyField 22]

McCown getting the "full" offense isn't that crazy considering a half game of work and two weeks to prepare.

[jersey cubs fan]

If Ratliffe can give anything, the Bears defense suddenly looks much better. Yes the safeties look bad, but when your lien gets no pressure you will get hammered. A better line makes the entire defense better.

 

Agreed. Before this game I thought the Bears were destined for 6-10, 7-9. Now I think they could finish anywhere from 8-8 to 10-6

 

Naw, they were never going to finish that bad with the teams left on the schedule. 8 wins was probably the minimum, even with McCown playing multiple games. The issue for me was always winning this and the next game. If they didn't win 1, the season was over basically.

Yeah, the question was playoff hopes or drafting in the middle again.

[Cubswin11]

So Cutler and Briggs are out vs. Rodgers and Mathews (looking at this simply, there are obviously more out for both sides). 2 questions:

 

1) Are the Bears without Cutler and Briggs better than the Packers without Rodgers and Mathews?

2) Does this show say anything about how much Rodgers is better than Cutler, or does this show how much better McCown is than Wallace? Or both?

I think it's mostly 2 along with Trestman being better than McCarthy (at least tonight). Still don't know why McCarthy didn't challenge that catch in the first half that could have led to a Packers FG at least. But probably mostly how much better McCown is than Wallace along with McCown getting a whole week of practice in with the first team and Wallace maybe getting like 5 snaps with his first team.

[Smack]

SIAP but Zaidman said broken collarbone for Rodgers.

[Brian]

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[UMFan83]

SIAP but Zaidman said broken collarbone for Rodgers.

 

my fantasy season is worth a Bears victory and a Packers falter

[Guest]

Trestman trusting McCown with the full offense is the entire story, period

Not really. Offense performed as expected. The story was Rodgers.

 

You expected 272 yards, 2 TD and 0 INT from McCown? I really, really doubt it

 

Trestman trusting McCown with the full offense is the entire story, period

Not really. Offense performed as expected. The story was Rodgers.

 

You expected the Bears to put up 27 points and McCown to go for 270 and 2 TD's on the road?

 

Yes to the both of you.

[Wilson A2000]

SIAP but Zaidman said broken collarbone for Rodgers.

 

Timetable that other QB's have come back from these?

[Brian]

 

As if this town could ever hate him, he looks like a genius throwing us a bone

[gscool89]

Well this was a pleasant surprise. Props to Marc Trestman because there is no way the Bears win this game under Lovie Smith.

[Smack]

Assuming Rodgers IS out on Sunday will the Packers be underdogs at home against Nick Foles and the Eagles? I think so.

[Cubswin11]

SIAP but Zaidman said broken collarbone for Rodgers.

 

Timetable that other QB's have come back from these?

You'd have to think a few weeks at minimum. Did Stafford ever have a similar injury to his non-throwing shoulder, how long was he out for (I know he's had shoulder injuries, but obviously a broken collarbone on your throwing shoulder has to keep you out longer)?

[Smack]

SIAP but Zaidman said broken collarbone for Rodgers.

 

Timetable that other QB's have come back from these?

 

Gotta be at least a month right? Assuming it IS broken.

[gscool89]

SIAP but Zaidman said broken collarbone for Rodgers.

 

Timetable that other QB's have come back from these?

 

Gotta be at least a month right? Assuming it IS broken.

I'm not a doctor but I assume it's good that it's not that throwing shoulder.

[Cubswin11]

Assuming Rodgers IS out on Sunday will the Packers be underdogs at home against Nick Foles and the Eagles? I think so.

It was -8 this morning, IF he is out I bet it falls somewhere to a pick em to Pack -3. Doubt it reopens with them as home dogs.

[SpongeWorthy]

 

As if this town could ever hate him, he looks like a genius throwing us a bone

 

too good