2013 Draft Day Thread + Cubs Picks Discussion

[Guest]

Any of the draftees may work out at Mesa for a short stint to get back into game shape after the post-season layoff, but I think it's fair to assume guys like Zastryzny and Hanneman will debut at Boise.

[Guest]

Hannemann is easily the player from the draft I'm second most excited about. Glad to hear he could start playing soon.

 

Would be awesome if he could do some stuff at Boise and instantly make himself interesting.

Since both were college players, is it assumed that both Hanneman and Zastryzny go to Boise rather than the AZL Cubs?

 

They'll start in Mesa to get their legs wet. I'm never sure with pitchers because they've thrown a lot already this year so their pro innings are limited but I think Boise is a safe assumption for both.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Pierce Johnson started in Mesa, if that means anything.

[craig]

Everybody starts in Mesa, to get their feet wet, as cal noted. Often that ends up being one or two weeks, if that, of box-score games. For pitchers, they won't go in games until they've thrown some on the side. I think often a pitcher won't be allowed into a box-score game until he's built up to 30 pitches.

 

I think Mesa is often a better instructional place. Lots of practice fields and video facilities. Little-know travel. Lots of pitchers around to throw to hitters.

 

Who knows what they'll do with Hanneman. As a freshman, does he need more coaching and tutorizing?

[weis21]

From Keith Law's Chat:

 

Neufeldt (New Berlin, WI)

 

Is Kris Bryant looking for a deal that is disproportionate with the slot/other top picks that have already signed? Could he be playing in Chicago this year?

 

Klaw (1:08 PM)

 

I believe he'll end up with the highest bonus in the draft, that the Cubs knew going in roughly what it would cost, and that there is absolutely no chance he plays in Chicago this year.

 

Also, what an arrogant, unhelpful answer:

 

Alec (Ohio)

 

What do you recommend for someone trying to work in baseball? MBA, law school, etc?

 

Klaw (1:07 PM)

 

I recommend playing baseball, and not wasting money on a graduate degree that won't help your chances of landing a baseball job.

[Cubswin11]

From Keith Law's Chat:

 

 

Also, what an arrogant, unhelpful answer:

 

Alec (Ohio)

 

What do you recommend for someone trying to work in baseball? MBA, law school, etc?

 

Klaw (1:07 PM)

 

I recommend playing baseball, and not wasting money on a graduate degree that won't help your chances of landing a baseball job.

What an ass of an answer. While a lot of guys who get MLB jobs at least have experience playing in the minors there are plenty who don't and went the MBA/Law degree route. Everyone knows it's very hard to get a job in professional sports at the FO level, but taking the MBA/Law route isn't a bad choice to try and get in if you can't actually play the sport above a high school/college level.

[Guest]

Anything is a bad choice to try and get in to baseball.

[craig]

As cal mentioned, it will be really interesting to see how they handle the pitchers.

 

Godley, who threw over 100 innings.

 

But Z, Skulina, Masek, Frazier, and Garner, and Wagner, they've have all thrown in the 78-94 innings range. And they've all had a break since their seasons ended. Will be very interesting to see how long it takes before any of them get worked back into any box score games, and how many more innings they're allowed to throw. It's a pretty good-sized pool of reasonably healthy college juniors to consider.

 

Last year Johnson threw around ten innings, but he was a special arm risk, so may have gotten especially cautious use. Heesch got 25, but he was a senior, so maybe the juniors won't be allowed that many? Or maybe they'll be allowed more, because he was a $10K guy of low developmental priority?

[weis21]

Anything is a bad choice to try and get in to baseball.

Well yeah, statistically speaking it's probably near impossible. My problem is the way he characterized the grad degrees as a "waste of money". As if they would be rendered useless if he didn't get into a baseball position. It was just a cocky, stupid answer. Anyways, it's not pertinent to this thread and I'll quit my random rant.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Anything is a bad choice to try and get in to baseball.

Well yeah, statistically speaking it's probably near impossible. My problem is the way he characterized the grad degrees as a "waste of money". As if they would be rendered useless if he didn't get into a baseball position. It was just a cocky, stupid answer. Anyways, it's not pertinent to this thread and I'll quit my random rant.

 

It's not like he jumped in on a guy who mentioned he wanted to work in baseball. The guy was asking for his advice, so he gave it.

[weis21]

I get he was asked for his advice and he gave it. I was just pointing out he was just an unnecessary prick about it. But I guess that's his shtick so whatever.

[Guest]

II was just pointing out he was just an unnecessary prick about it. But I guess that's his shtick so whatever.

That's Klaw.

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I really want Bryant to sign, like yesterday. Also, if he doesn't sign can he go back to college ball if he's hired an agent?

[mookie]

That response doesn't come across as having a "prick" tone to me at all.

[weis21]

Maybe reading his dozen or so smartass answers before that one helped to shape and mold my opinion of that answer too. It obviously wasn't extremely helpful, but whatever. Sorry for derailing the thread.

[Guest]

It was a precious question. you don't go to law school or business school with the purpose of being a baseball GM. That's lunacy.

 

The answer is pretty simple. You go to college for whatevef and study whatever and apply for an internship with a minor league team in that area. You work your way up from there.

[weis21]

Exactly. I always have several advisees that intern with minor league teams every year. Some have interned with professional teams and one is currently interning with MLB this summer, actually.

[Guest]

II was just pointing out he was just an unnecessary prick about it. But I guess that's his shtick so whatever.

That's Klaw.

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I really want Bryant to sign, like yesterday. Also, if he doesn't sign can he go back to college ball if he's hired an agent?

Technically he doesn't have an agent. Boras is his "advisor."

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

II was just pointing out he was just an unnecessary prick about it. But I guess that's his shtick so whatever.

That's Klaw.

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I really want Bryant to sign, like yesterday. Also, if he doesn't sign can he go back to college ball if he's hired an agent?

Technically he doesn't have an agent. Boras is his "advisor."

 

lol, that is some kinky ass [expletive] right there.

[BeerHere]

That response doesn't come across as having a "prick" tone to me at all.

It did to me

[bukie]

Law is right, though, the easiest way to get a job in baseball is by playing pro baseball.

[Guest]

Man, the Rays sign Clayton Crum as an NDFA. He was drafted by the Cubs twice and never signed. Intriguing prospect but he was buried on Oregon's depth chart so he went undrafted.

 

He probably would have been better off taking the $100,00 I believe the Cubs offered him last year.

[imb]

Law is right, though, the easiest way to get a job in baseball is by playing pro baseball.

 

he gets enough shitty questions from assholes all day that he can respond like that if he wants to. the least he can do when someone asks him an earnest question is give an earnest response.

[Tracer Bullet]

Law is right, though, the easiest way to get a job in baseball is by playing pro baseball.

 

he gets enough [expletive] questions from [expletive] all day that he can respond like that if he wants to. the least he can do when someone asks him an earnest question is give an earnest response.

 

And he was asked specifically about going to law school or an MBA program. It's stupid to go to law school to be a lawyer right now (unless it's free in which case it's just kinda dumb). But spending what it costs to get a grad degree with the intent of working in baseball is totally stupid. There's a lot worse klaw answers out there than that one. Then again he doesn't bother me as much as he clearly bothers some.

[imb]

i like him, but stuff like that is insufferable. you're a midget food/BOARD GAME/minor league writer, there's no excuse to act like that

[jersey cubs fan]

i like him, but stuff like that is insufferable. you're a midget food/BOARD GAME/minor league writer, there's no excuse to act like that

 

I really don't understand what he did wrong. There was no time and space for a more thoughtful spelled out response to what was essentially a stupid cliched question.