Rick Renteria Named New Cubs Manager

[Guest]

Certainly didn't do a piss poor job, what with the roster and expectations, but I could see the reasoning. Anyway he stays in the organization? If Girardi stays in NY, who would we target? The meatheads will complain we should have kept Sandberg.

 

Ausmus

[rocket]

If they are firing Sveum and not committing anything extra to the payroll, I don't care if they bring Casey Stengel back from the dead, they aren't going to be successful. When the worst part about your manager is that his bullpen management sucks, it's probably time to start blaming the front office and ownership.

 

This isn't about the W/L, it has to be about the lack of development from Castro/Rizzo. Or simply that they see a better long term option that won't be available next year. Or both.

 

exactly. i don't know if a manager can do a better job in developing castro and rizzo, but it's worth a shot

[davell]

Eh, kind of interesting. Hope Bosio and McKsy stick around, along with whoever the dude is that worked with Castillo on his receiving.

[Elrhino]

Any suggestions for sacrificial lamb? I prefer a garlic rosemary sauce, but some people stick with the Greek classics like yogurt mint.

[davell]

Certainly didn't do a piss poor job, what with the roster and expectations, but I could see the reasoning. Anyway he stays in the organization? If Girardi stays in NY, who would we target? The meatheads will complain we should have kept Sandberg.

 

Ausmus

I would LOVE Ausmus, if for nothing else, for all the meatballs that would be crying about Sandberg not having experience, as to why he was picked over.

[Guest]

If they are firing Sveum and not committing anything extra to the payroll, I don't care if they bring Casey Stengel back from the dead, they aren't going to be successful. When the worst part about your manager is that his bullpen management sucks, it's probably time to start blaming the front office and ownership.

 

This isn't about the W/L, it has to be about the lack of development from Castro/Rizzo. Or simply that they see a better long term option that won't be available next year. Or both.

 

exactly. i don't know if a manager can do a better job in developing castro and rizzo, but it's worth a shot

 

Yeah. I also don't think they liked how he handled them in the media. Hung them out to dry a little bit at times.

[XZero771679666304]

If they are firing Sveum and not committing anything extra to the payroll, I don't care if they bring Casey Stengel back from the dead, they aren't going to be successful. When the worst part about your manager is that his bullpen management sucks, it's probably time to start blaming the front office and ownership.

 

This isn't about the W/L, it has to be about the lack of development from Castro/Rizzo. Or simply that they see a better long term option that won't be available next year. Or both.

 

exactly. i don't know if a manager can do a better job in developing castro and rizzo, but it's worth a shot

 

I don't know how much Dale could have had to do with Castro/Rizzo, either. I am thinking that Rosenthal's theory about Sveum being a "caretaker" until a long term solution was identified/ready to be put in place was probably pretty close to spot on. And the fact that Castro/Rizzo/Shark all took steps back under his watch can't have helped.

[Andy]

I know Theo and Co. won't hire a total meatball to manage the team, so I don't really care who gets hired - I do hope this is a sign that we're going to actually make a real effort to win next year.

[Old Style]

WE WANT RYNO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Schwarber Fan]

Pleasantly surprised by this. He was far from the biggest problem with the team, but I was sure his bad managing was going to go unnoticed by the FO.

[WrigleyField 22]

Eh, kind of interesting. Hope Bosio and McKsy stick around, along with whoever the dude is that worked with Castillo on his receiving.

Well I remember Bosio being pretty close to Sveum, and it seemed Sveum had to convince him to come on. So I wouldn't be surprised if he leaves . Still, it's a managers job to assemble a staff (maybe their most important job responsibility honestly) , so if the new guy can't get someone to do an adequate job to replace the staff, we hired the wrong guy.

 

Rowson has to be gone too, considering Castro's decline, right?

[SouthSideRyan]

@CarrieMuskat Ricketts went into #Cubs clubhouse. Coaches Bell, Quirk are here

 

Just trying to get a free meal from the clubhouse spread

 

#poorTomRicketts

[rocket]

and welcome back to chicago, joe girardi

[Guest]

Sahadev Sharma ‏@sahadevsharma 4m

It's official, Sveum out as manager. Theo: Today’s decision to pursue a new manager was not made because of wins and losses.

 

Sahadev Sharma ‏@sahadevsharma 4m

More Theo: Our record is a function of our long-term building plan and the moves we have made – some good, a few we would like back – (more)

 

Sahadev Sharma ‏@sahadevsharma 3m

Theo: -- to further this strategy. Jed and I take full responsibility for that.

[Guest]

Mark Gonzales ‏@MDGonzales 1m

Theo :I believe a dynamic new voice – and the energy, creativity and freshness that comes with this type of change – provides us with ...

 

Mark Gonzales ‏@MDGonzales 33s

"the best opportunity to achieve the major league environment we seek."

[Guest]

@CarrieMuskat Ricketts went into #Cubs clubhouse. Coaches Bell, Quirk are here

 

Just trying to get a free meal from the clubhouse spread

 

#poorTomRicketts

 

hahaha

[WrigleyField 22]

Mark Gonzales ‏@MDGonzales 1m

Theo :I believe a dynamic new voice – and the energy, creativity and freshness that comes with this type of change – provides us with ...

 

Mark Gonzales ‏@MDGonzales 33s

"the best opportunity to achieve the major league environment we seek."

So... It's our fault were losers but we can't play with a manager who is a loser, so he's collateral damage for our failings and/or strategy to suck.

 

Ok. So he was probably always a placeholder.

[davell]

McKay and Deer are home in Arizona. Bosio has a club option. Fairly certain Rowson will be gone.

[BeerHere]

and welcome back to chicago, joe girardi

This seems like the most likely outcome to me.

[Guest]

Trying to catch all this stuff...

 

Sahadev Sharma ‏@sahadevsharma 3m

Theo: There are no absolute criteria, but we will prioritize managerial or other on-field leadership experience and (more)

 

Sahadev Sharma ‏@sahadevsharma 3m

Theo (continued): we will prioritize expertise developing young talent.

 

Sahadev Sharma ‏@sahadevsharma 2m

Theo says in statement that they haven't contacted or asked for permission to talk to potential managers. That process starts tomorrow.

 

Mark Gonzales ‏@MDGonzales 4m

"We have not yet contacted any candidates or asked permission to speak with any candidates, but that process will begin tomorrow morning.”

 

Mark Gonzales ‏@MDGonzales 1m

Theo epstein said Sveum "never complained about the hand he was dealt. He and his staff helped us excel in game planning and defensive ...

 

Mark Gonzales ‏@MDGonzales 1m

"positioning, contributed to the emergence of several players, and helped put us in position to make some important trades."

[Hairyducked Idiot]

and welcome back to chicago, joe girardi

This seems like the most likely outcome to me.

 

Unless Girardi is using us to leverage more money out of the Yankees.

[Andy]

Mark Gonzales ‏@MDGonzales 1m

Theo :I believe a dynamic new voice – and the energy, creativity and freshness that comes with this type of change – provides us with ...

 

Mark Gonzales ‏@MDGonzales 33s

"the best opportunity to achieve the major league environment we seek."

So... It's our fault were losers but we can't play with a manager who is a loser, so he's collateral damage for our failings and/or strategy to suck.

 

Ok. So he was probably always a placeholder.

I wouldn't call him a placeholder. More of an audition. If he'd turned out to be the kind of manager the FO wanted I'm sure he'd have stuck around. He didn't.

[Guest]

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130930&content_id=62222908&vkey=pr_chc&c_id=chc

 

Theo's statement on the firing

 

"Today, we made the very difficult decision to relieve Dale Sveum of his duties as Cubs manager. Dale has been a committed leader for this team the last two seasons, and I want to thank him for all of his dedication and hard work. I have a lot of admiration for Dale personally, and we all learned a lot from the way he has handled the trying circumstances of the last two years, especially the last two weeks, with strength and dignity.

 

In his own authentic and understated way, Dale always put the team first and never complained about the hand he was dealt. He and his staff helped us excel in game planning and defensive positioning, contributed to the emergence of several players, and helped put us in position to make some important trades. I have no doubt that - much like Terry Francona, whom we hired in Boston after his stint with a losing Phillies club - Dale will go on to great success with his next team. We had hoped Dale would grow with our organization to see it through the building phase to a period of sustained excellence; instead, I believe Dale, who felt the weight of losing perhaps more than any of us, will grow because of this experience and find excellence elsewhere.

 

Today's decision to pursue a new manager was not made because of wins and losses. Our record is a function of our long-term building plan and the moves we have made - some good, a few we would like back - to further this strategy. Jed and I take full responsibility for that. Today's decision was absolutely not made to provide a scapegoat for our shortcomings or to distract from our biggest issue - a shortage of talent at the major league level. We have been transparent about what we are, and what we are not yet. Today's decision, which was painful for all of us, was made to move us closer to fulfilling our ultimate long-term vision for the Cubs.

 

Soon, our organization will transition from a phase in which we have been primarily acquiring young talent to a phase in which we will promote many of our best prospects and actually field a very young, very talented club at the major league level. The losing has been hard on all of us, but we now have one of the top farm systems in baseball, some of the very best prospects in the game, and a clear path forward. In order for us to win with this group - and win consistently - we must have the best possible environment for young players to learn, develop and thrive at the major league level. We must have clear and cohesive communication with our players about the most important parts of the game. And - even while the organization takes a patient, long view - we must somehow establish and maintain a galvanized, winning culture around the major league club.

 

I believe a dynamic new voice - and the energy, creativity and freshness that comes with this type of change - provides us with the best opportunity to achieve the major league environment we seek. We will begin our search immediately - a process which will be completed before the GM meetings in early November and perhaps much sooner. There are no absolute criteria, but we will prioritize managerial or other on-field leadership experience and we will prioritize expertise developing young talent. We have not yet contacted any candidates or asked permission to speak with any candidates, but that process will begin tomorrow morning."

Edited September 30, 2013 by David

[davell]

Mark Gonzales ‏@MDGonzales 1m

Theo :I believe a dynamic new voice – and the energy, creativity and freshness that comes with this type of change – provides us with ...

 

Mark Gonzales ‏@MDGonzales 33s

"the best opportunity to achieve the major league environment we seek."

So... It's our fault were losers but we can't play with a manager who is a loser, so he's collateral damage for our failings and/or strategy to suck.

 

Ok. So he was probably always a placeholder.

I disagree. I think they truly hired him with the intent of having him around long term. Castro and Rizzo struggling opened up a can of worms though that whatever positive attributes Dale had, couldn't overcome.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I wouldn't call him a placeholder. More of an audition. If he'd turned out to be the kind of manager the FO wanted I'm sure he'd have stuck around. He didn't.

 

Why couldn't they have found someone they already knew was the right kind of manager for them? It's not the sort of job where there's a shortage of candidates. Get it right the first time.