Rick Renteria Named New Cubs Manager

[Hawk4Hall]

What are the chances he's the manager next year? We all know last season was a wash, but he's made some odd decisions this year, and his comments about sending guys to the minors was idiotic. I know this team is dog crap bad, and even LaRussa wouldn't get them to win, but at what point does the front office look at the W's and L's and go a different direction?

 

Considering they realized how bad Quade was and cut the ties quickly do you think they'll do the same with Sveum if the Cubs lose 100 game this season? Will Theo make a statement and do something? (I don't think Theo is in trouble, but he can't afford 3 bad years in a row)

[Tracer Bullet]

Jesus. Now we've got questions about the owners, manager, GM and our top 2 players. At least the sky isn't falling.

[jersey cubs fan]

What are the chances he's the manager next year?

 

Probably pretty good.

[Hawk4Hall]

Jesus. Now we've got questions about the owners, manager, GM and our top 2 players. At least the sky isn't falling.

 

The manager will go before the GM or owner. That's why I am asking this question.

 

It's not like the Cubs have had much to cheer about the last few seasons and it's a fair question. I don't dislike any of the management or front office, but you have to wonder what Theo and Company are thinking. If they Cubs continue to be a bad baseball team, they'll do something. The question is just when.

 

The bottom line is that Sveum has a record of 66-114 as the Cubs manager. I'm not saying he should be fired now, just wondering what another bad record would do to his future.

[XZero771679666304]

Jesus. Now we've got questions about the owners, manager, GM and our top 2 players. At least the sky isn't falling.

 

The manager will go before the GM or owner. That's why I am asking this question.

 

It's not like the Cubs have had much to cheer about the last few seasons and it's a fair question. I don't dislike any of the management or front office, but you have to wonder what Theo and Company are thinking. If they Cubs continue to be a bad baseball team, they'll do something. The question is just when.

 

This team isn't quite as bad as last year's, but it's going to be hard to hold Dale accountable for a losing season, unless things go catastrophically wrong (i.e. a season long continuation of this start).

[mul21]

It would be stupid to blame him for all these losses that keep piling up. He's been given crap rosters and on field execution has been pretty bad. He's partially responsible for that, but can you really question many of the decisions he makes? I mean, there's some here and there that are debatable, but even the one I had a big problem with last night (leaving Bowden in for a 2nd inning) there's really not much fundamentally wrong with the decisions he's making. The demotion thing I'll give him a pass on since it was more than likely completely out of frustration and something I'd be surprised if the subject hadn't already been broached in the clubhouse.

[jersey cubs fan]

Managers tend to lose their jobs when the team fails to meet expectations or openly and directly clash with their superiors. Cubs management expects to be bad so I don't see that happening unless maybe if they lose 100 again, and/or Sveum starts acting out (essentially trying to get fired). Look at the Pirates the last couple decades. Gene Lemont was given four years to keep sucking. Lloyd McClendon was given 4.5 years. John Russell and Clint Hurdle were each given 3 (assuming Hurdle stays through this year). Only Jim Tracy got canned after two, and that was a disastrous relationship almost from the outset.

 

Two years would be a very brief tenure, and the reaction would most likely be, "hey, you set that guy up with crap for talent, what did you expect." Unless he starts feuding with Castro and destroying arms, or otherwise goes insane with all the losing, he isn't getting fired.

[Sammy Sofa]

(I don't think Theo is in trouble, but he can't afford 3 bad years in a row)

 

Well, firing or retaining Sveum really won't make a difference in that regard.

[Old Style]

I don't imagine Sveum gets fired. Any chance he gets fed up with this job and quits?

[JoseHernandez18]

He is and should be fine. He has been dealt a dreadful hand, I can't point to what he could/should have done differently.

 

This all falls on the bozos that bought the franchise.

[KingCubsFan]

I don't imagine Sveum gets fired. Any chance he gets fed up with this job and quits?

I can't imagine anyone ever hiring Sveum again if he quits on a team because they're bad.

[Guest]

I don't imagine Sveum gets fired. Any chance he gets fed up with this job and quits?

I can't imagine anyone ever hiring Sveum again if he quits on a team because they're bad.

Right. He'll fall on his sword and make it sound like he's working as hard as he can to make them better, which I'm sure he's doing now (working hard to make them better).

 

The thing that bothers me is that when you have a young team you have to expect some gaffs as part of the maturation process. If he can't handle those things, he may be more suited for a veteran team.

[Banedon]

I'm not a massive fan of Sveum, but he's not going anywhere. Like jersey said, there's been almost zero expectations to meet here, other than to not completely [expletive] up young players.

[Rex Buckingham]

Brett posted this over at BN

 

http://www.bleachernation.com/2013/04/24/dale-sveum-gets-an-in-person-vote-of-confidence-from-the-front-office-and-other-bullets/

 

Hoyer doesn't seem concerned about Sveum's job security

[cubbyvirus00]

Outside of a slumping Rizzo, Shark, and lazy defense Castro, Sveum has a horrible roster to work with. He should remain with the team for another few years, unless he decides he's had enough and quit.

[Rob]

Sveum wasn't hired to manage a winning team. He was hired to try to turn young prospects into quality major league players.

[Cubswin11]

Outside of a slumping Rizzo, Shark, and lazy defense Castro, Sveum has a horrible roster to work with. He should remain with the team for another few years, unless he decides he's had enough and quit.

For christ sake

[Sammy Sofa]

Outside of a slumping Rizzo, Shark, and lazy defense Castro, Sveum has a horrible roster to work with. He should remain with the team for another few years, unless he decides he's had enough and quit.

For christ sake

 

Well, that, and the idea there's only three players there doing anything.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Outside of a slumping Rizzo, Shark, and lazy defense Castro, Sveum has a horrible roster to work with. He should remain with the team for another few years, unless he decides he's had enough and quit.

For christ sake

 

Well, that, and the idea there's only three players there doing anything.

 

But DeJesus, Schierholtz, Wood, Villanueva, Jackson, Castillo, Valbuena, Soriano, Barney, Russell, and Rondon don't count. Not sure why though. But they don't. It is what it is.

[weis21]

WSR is improving. He's kind of like NSBB's version of Krispy Kreme/Froggy Fresh.

[Soul]

Sveum wasn't hired to manage a winning team. He was hired to try to turn young prospects into quality major league players.

 

Yeah. Is he?

[cubbyvirus00]

Outside of a slumping Rizzo, Shark, and lazy defense Castro, Sveum has a horrible roster to work with. He should remain with the team for another few years, unless he decides he's had enough and quit.

For christ sake

 

Well, that, and the idea there's only three players there doing anything.

 

But DeJesus, Schierholtz, Wood, Villanueva, Jackson, Castillo, Valbuena, Soriano, Barney, Russell, and Rondon don't count. Not sure why though. But they don't. It is what it is.

 

Until those players are turned into quality ML players, which is what you're implying, the roster doesn't help Sveum's job.

[XZero771679666304]

Outside of a slumping Rizzo, Shark, and lazy defense Castro, Sveum has a horrible roster to work with. He should remain with the team for another few years, unless he decides he's had enough and quit.

For christ sake

 

Well, that, and the idea there's only three players there doing anything.

 

But DeJesus, Schierholtz, Wood, Villanueva, Jackson, Castillo, Valbuena, Soriano, Barney, Russell, and Rondon don't count. Not sure why though. But they don't. It is what it is.

 

Until those players are turned into quality ML players, which is what you're implying, the roster doesn't help Sveum's job.

 

At the very least, DeJesus, Jackson, Soriano, Barney and Russell are all quality big league players. Not impact guys, but definitely quality players.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

DeJesus and Nate have been the best players on the team.

[Bobson Dugnutt]

For christ sake

 

Well, that, and the idea there's only three players there doing anything.

 

But DeJesus, Schierholtz, Wood, Villanueva, Jackson, Castillo, Valbuena, Soriano, Barney, Russell, and Rondon don't count. Not sure why though. But they don't. It is what it is.

 

Until those players are turned into quality ML players, which is what you're implying, the roster doesn't help Sveum's job.

 

At the very least, DeJesus, Jackson, Soriano, Barney and Russell are all quality big league players. Not impact guys, but definitely quality players.

 

I'd throw Villanueva into that group as well.