Bears Offseason Thread (Trestman new HC, pg 37)

[Banedon]

@seankjensen

 

FYI: I've heard of several candidates who wanted to interview for #Bears opening but didn't get one from GM Phil Emery.

 

How can that possibly be? Other than Chip Kelly and Lovie Smith what candidates that other teams have interviewed have not been approached and/or given interviews by the Bears?

 

Mike Silver is on the radio right now wanting Hue Jackson to get an interview.

[Guest]

@seankjensen

 

FYI: I've heard of several candidates who wanted to interview for #Bears opening but didn't get one from GM Phil Emery.

 

How can that possibly be? Other than Chip Kelly and Lovie Smith what candidates that other teams have interviewed have not been approached and/or given interviews by the Bears?

 

I hope one of them is Cowher.

[Banedon]

@seankjensen

 

FYI: I've heard of several candidates who wanted to interview for #Bears opening but didn't get one from GM Phil Emery.

 

How can that possibly be? Other than Chip Kelly and Lovie Smith what candidates that other teams have interviewed have not been approached and/or given interviews by the Bears?

 

I hope one of them is Cowher.

 

Could be defensive candidates.

[Banedon]

When Jay started his radio show last week, he already knew about Lovie being fired, and he was hoping he could go through the show without the news breaking. Didn't happen that way.

[Banedon]

Cutler implied that he thinks with a better offensive scheme that Hester could flourish.

[UMFan83]

Cutler implied that he thinks with a better offensive scheme that Hester could flourish.

 

Dude, Lovie is gone, he can't force you to say that anymore!

[cubbyvirus00]

In terms of interviewing already successful NFL coaches, I would like for Cowher to get a shot.

[Guest]

In terms of interviewing already successful NFL coaches, I would like for Cowher to get a shot.

 

I'm glad you aren't involved.

[Splendid Splinter]

In terms of interviewing already successful NFL coaches, I would like for Cowher to get a shot.

 

I'm glad you aren't involved.

 

 

Yeah I don't get it. When was the last time Cowher coached? Heck it's mainly why I wouldn't want Gruden as well since he hasn't been coaching since 2008.

[cubbyvirus00]

In terms of interviewing already successful NFL coaches, I would like for Cowher to get a shot.

 

I'm glad you aren't involved.

 

 

Yeah I don't get it. When was the last time Cowher coached? Heck it's mainly why I wouldn't want Gruden as well since he hasn't been coaching since 2008.

 

I don't think that they're somehow 'left in the dust,' from watching in a booth for the last 5 years. It's all speculative banter and they've probably got just as good of a shot to be successful as Mike McCoy who's never been a head coach in the NFL before.

 

I'm not crazy about Gruden, but I think Cowher has the chance of still being a good NFL coach.

[Banedon]

I don't think that they're somehow 'left in the dust,' from watching in a booth for the last 5 years. It's all speculative banter and they've probably got just as good of a shot to be successful as Mike McCoy who's never been a head coach in the NFL before.

 

I'm not crazy about Gruden, but I think Cowher has the chance of still being a good NFL coach.

 

I'm glad you aren't involved.

[cubbyvirus00]

I don't think that they're somehow 'left in the dust,' from watching in a booth for the last 5 years. It's all speculative banter and they've probably got just as good of a shot to be successful as Mike McCoy who's never been a head coach in the NFL before.

 

I'm not crazy about Gruden, but I think Cowher has the chance of still being a good NFL coach.

 

I'm glad you aren't involved.

 

Yes because it's inconceivable (!) that Cowher can be a good coach again! :roll:

[UMFan83]

If anyone cares, theres an insider article from Football Outsiders addressing what 3 near playoff teams (Bears, Cowboys, Giants) need to compete in 2013. I thought it was odd that they chose receivers as the Bears biggest need. I get that BMarsh was relyed on way too heavily, and that the Bears need more WRs, but its far from their biggest hole. We have a Pro Bowl #1 WR, and a very promising tall athletic WR (Jeffery) that was pretty good to finish the year despite obvious rookie mistakes. Earl Bennett is a sold #4 WR. So we need a better slot guy, assuming Jeffery can improve on his promise. Meanwhile the OLine is in shambles. Oh well...

 

Chicago Bears

 

Biggest need: All the receivers they can find

 

How much do the Bears lean on Brandon Marshall? The team had 493 pass attempts in 2012 (not including spikes or throwaways), and Marshall was targeted on 198 of them. That's more than 40 percent of the team's targets to one man. No other receiver in the league collected a bigger share of his team's targets, and only Indianapolis' Reggie Wayne (32 percent) and Cincinnati's A.J. Green (30 percent) topped the 30 percent threshold.

 

The spot opposite Marshall in the starting lineup, though, was a revolving door. The Bears tried Devin Hester, then Earl Bennett and finally Alshon Jeffery, with minimal success. By season's end, all three of those players had appeared in at least 10 games for Chicago, but none had more than six starts. The hope here is that Jeffery, a second-round pick in 2012, can solidify a starting role in his second season, but the Bears will need more depth. (Hester, the best kick returner of all time, has never been more than adequate as a wide receiver, and 2013 will be his eighth season.)

 

Chicago also needs a major upgrade at tight end. In his second season as a starter, Kellen Davis finished among the bottom five regular players at his position, catching only 43 percent of the passes thrown his way. He wasn't much better in 2011, when his catch rate was 51 percent. The average catch rate for tight ends in 2012 was 64 percent.

[Banedon]

I don't think that they're somehow 'left in the dust,' from watching in a booth for the last 5 years. It's all speculative banter and they've probably got just as good of a shot to be successful as Mike McCoy who's never been a head coach in the NFL before.

 

I'm not crazy about Gruden, but I think Cowher has the chance of still being a good NFL coach.

 

I'm glad you aren't involved.

 

Yes because it's inconceivable (!) that Cowher can be a good coach again! :roll:

 

Because not wanting him as the HC of the Bears means that we don't think he can be a good coach again.

[cubbyvirus00]

I don't think that they're somehow 'left in the dust,' from watching in a booth for the last 5 years. It's all speculative banter and they've probably got just as good of a shot to be successful as Mike McCoy who's never been a head coach in the NFL before.

 

I'm not crazy about Gruden, but I think Cowher has the chance of still being a good NFL coach.

 

I'm glad you aren't involved.

 

Yes because it's inconceivable (!) that Cowher can be a good coach again! :roll:

 

Because not wanting him as the HC of the Bears means that we don't think he can be a good coach again.

 

Both David's post and your post implies that it is lunacy that Cowher get an interview and it be within the realm of possibility that he can be a good coach again.

[cubbyvirus00]

If anyone cares, theres an insider article from Football Outsiders addressing what 3 near playoff teams (Bears, Cowboys, Giants) need to compete in 2013. I thought it was odd that they chose receivers as the Bears biggest need. I get that BMarsh was relyed on way too heavily, and that the Bears need more WRs, but its far from their biggest hole. We have a Pro Bowl #1 WR, and a very promising tall athletic WR (Jeffery) that was pretty good to finish the year despite obvious rookie mistakes. Earl Bennett is a sold #4 WR. So we need a better slot guy, assuming Jeffery can improve on his promise. Meanwhile the OLine is in shambles. Oh well...

 

Chicago Bears

 

Biggest need: All the receivers they can find

 

How much do the Bears lean on Brandon Marshall? The team had 493 pass attempts in 2012 (not including spikes or throwaways), and Marshall was targeted on 198 of them. That's more than 40 percent of the team's targets to one man. No other receiver in the league collected a bigger share of his team's targets, and only Indianapolis' Reggie Wayne (32 percent) and Cincinnati's A.J. Green (30 percent) topped the 30 percent threshold.

 

The spot opposite Marshall in the starting lineup, though, was a revolving door. The Bears tried Devin Hester, then Earl Bennett and finally Alshon Jeffery, with minimal success. By season's end, all three of those players had appeared in at least 10 games for Chicago, but none had more than six starts. The hope here is that Jeffery, a second-round pick in 2012, can solidify a starting role in his second season, but the Bears will need more depth. (Hester, the best kick returner of all time, has never been more than adequate as a wide receiver, and 2013 will be his eighth season.)

 

Chicago also needs a major upgrade at tight end. In his second season as a starter, Kellen Davis finished among the bottom five regular players at his position, catching only 43 percent of the passes thrown his way. He wasn't much better in 2011, when his catch rate was 51 percent. The average catch rate for tight ends in 2012 was 64 percent.

 

1) OL

1A) TE

2) LB

3) CB

 

I think a good slot WR can be found in free agency and it appears as if they're many options out there.

[rawaction]

TE is not 1A. Its a distant 2nd. The Bears could usr all 5 spots on the OL before 1 TE. If I had to realistically break it down TE would be 3 after OT and OG.

[jersey cubs fan]

I don't think that they're somehow 'left in the dust,' from watching in a booth for the last 5 years. It's all speculative banter and they've probably got just as good of a shot to be successful as Mike McCoy who's never been a head coach in the NFL before.

 

I'm not crazy about Gruden, but I think Cowher has the chance of still being a good NFL coach.

 

I'm glad you aren't involved.

 

Yes because it's inconceivable (!) that Cowher can be a good coach again! :roll:

 

Because not wanting him as the HC of the Bears means that we don't think he can be a good coach again.

 

What the hell else could it mean? For the life of me I can't imagine why people are so set against the two of those guys. There's been a dozen worse names thrown into the ring during this search and maybe only a couple better ones.

[cubbyvirus00]

Bears interviewing Texans OC Rick Dennison on Friday night.

[Banedon]

I don't think that they're somehow 'left in the dust,' from watching in a booth for the last 5 years. It's all speculative banter and they've probably got just as good of a shot to be successful as Mike McCoy who's never been a head coach in the NFL before.

 

I'm not crazy about Gruden, but I think Cowher has the chance of still being a good NFL coach.

 

I'm glad you aren't involved.

 

Yes because it's inconceivable (!) that Cowher can be a good coach again! :roll:

 

Because not wanting him as the HC of the Bears means that we don't think he can be a good coach again.

 

What the hell else could it mean? For the life of me I can't imagine why people are so set against the two of those guys. There's been a dozen worse names thrown into the ring during this search and maybe only a couple better ones.

 

It means I don't want Cowher for the Bears HC. He might be right for another team, but I don't think he's right for the Bears.

 

The Bears are purposely trying to find a coach that can revamp the offense. I don't think Cowher is the guy to do that.

[jersey cubs fan]

TE is not 1A. Its a distant 2nd. The Bears could usr all 5 spots on the OL before 1 TE. If I had to realistically break it down TE would be 3 after OT and OG.

 

Right there with you. Tight end cannot be prioritized as much as OL. There's been a new excuse every season why OL isn't prioritized and time ran out on those theories years ago.

[Guest]

Both David's post and your post implies that it is lunacy that Cowher get an interview and it be within the realm of possibility that he can be a good coach again.

 

You keep using that word "again"

[Guest]

What the hell else could it mean? For the life of me I can't imagine why people are so set against the two of those guys. There's been a dozen worse names thrown into the ring during this search and maybe only a couple better ones.

 

It could mean lots of things, as Banedon just pointed out.

 

I'd have no problem at all with Gruden, though.

[jersey cubs fan]

What the hell else could it mean? For the life of me I can't imagine why people are so set against the two of those guys. There's been a dozen worse names thrown into the ring during this search and maybe only a couple better ones.

 

It could mean lots of things, as Banedon just pointed out.

 

I'd have no problem at all with Gruden, though.

 

Actually he didn't point out anything. He just said he doesn't think he's the right guy, which sounds to me like some sort of gut instinct knee jerk reaction to the theory that he's a defensive minded blowhard of a coach or something. The Bears are interviewing several special teams coordinators, many coaches with no significant offensive play calling or planning history and even some defensive guys. Cowher was on board with the need for a passing offense in this league long before many other coaches wanted that. He's a legitimate head coach who we know isn't going to be overwhelmed by the job, like so many previous "hot coordinator types" have shown in the past. I understand why he may not be at the top of a list, but it's inexplicable why people flat out don't want him.

[Guest]

What the hell else could it mean? For the life of me I can't imagine why people are so set against the two of those guys. There's been a dozen worse names thrown into the ring during this search and maybe only a couple better ones.

 

It could mean lots of things, as Banedon just pointed out.

 

I'd have no problem at all with Gruden, though.

 

Actually he didn't point out anything. He just said he doesn't think he's the right guy, which sounds to me like some sort of gut instinct knee jerk reaction to the theory that he's a defensive minded blowhard of a coach or something. The Bears are interviewing several special teams coordinators, many coaches with no significant offensive play calling or planning history and even some defensive guys. Cowher was on board with the need for a passing offense in this league long before many other coaches wanted that. He's a legitimate head coach who we know isn't going to be overwhelmed by the job, like so many previous "hot coordinator types" have shown in the past. I understand why he may not be at the top of a list, but it's inexplicable why people flat out don't want him.

 

Some defensive guys meaning one guy out of courtesy who has strong ties to the organization? Or did I miss one?