Bears Offseason Thread (Trestman new HC, pg 37)

[Guest]

To me it means he thinks he's out smarting everyone else.

 

Extremely unlikely.

 

Much more likely? He's not that smart. Which is bad news if you are a Bear fan.

 

O-lineman went early and often. Is it impossible to think that the personnel people for NFL teams had O-lineman valued higher than the experts did?

 

I think the most logical explanation is that there was a run on OL.

[tfarks]

It wouldn't be surprising if Long cracks the first round. His great bloodlines will help him to get selected earlier and overcome some off-the-field problems.

 

Surprised Walter hated the pick so much considering this is his own positional analysis. Yeah Floyd fell, but I didn't think the Bears would spend a 1st round pick at DT. Melton will be paid and Paea is very solid. Would love to see Idonije back, but it helps that they can put Peppers on the inside.

 

I would have chosen Eifert myself. But I don't hate the Long pick. Would have much rather had him than Pugh.

[Guest]

It wouldn't be surprising if Long cracks the first round. His great bloodlines will help him to get selected earlier and overcome some off-the-field problems.

 

Surprised Walter hated the pick so much considering this is his own positional analysis. Yeah Floyd fell, but I didn't think the Bears would spend a 1st round pick at DT. Melton will be paid and Paea is very solid. Would love to see Idonije back, but it helps that they can put Peppers on the inside.

 

I would have chosen Eifert myself. But I don't hate the Long pick. Would have much rather had him than Pugh.

 

The last sentence is where I am. Clearly a reach but if they didn't like/wouldn't trade down, so be it. Not as bad as Pugh or Frederick.

 

I don't see the problem with drafting Floyd. Gives you more flexibility with the Melton situation. Besides, defensive tackles get a lot of plays off so Floyd would have gotten a lot of playing time.

[tfarks]

I'm not saying I wouldn't have chosen Floyd. I just didn't think they were going to invest a 1st rounder there with the needs on the offensive side. I could see them say, drafting Kawann Short if he falls to them in the 2nd.

[Guest]

Emery said Long was the best lineman at the senior bowl. And Kromer adored the man apparently. Looks like they plan for him to compete at G immediately and eventually become an OT, apparently even LT.

 

I'm intrigued and hoping they're not dumb. But Kromer is smarter than most about lineman, and the OL needed the help. I know Slauson has played C before, that could make this move even more interesting. I don't wanna get into the value stuff, but with no 3rd rounder they can't move up in the 2nd without dangling future picks.

 

I know the need for LB/CB/DT is there, but I'd like to see them pick up someone like Ryan Swope today. I still want to see an offensive weapon they can put in the slot. Especially with Bennett and Jeffrey's injury history.

 

I was unaware Slauson could play center. That'd be great if he could get Garza off the field.

[Soul]

so... Bushrod, Long, Garza, Carimi/Slauson, Webb/Carimi?

 

I doubt he'll be the starter in year 1.

 

Emery said he can come in and contribute right away. I don't see any way for an OL to contribute right away if he isn't on the OL.

 

And he was drafted in the first round, so he better freaking start somewhere.

 

I'm basing that comment on the fact that he's pretty new to football overall. It's just hard for me to imagine a one year college OL just plugging in to an NFL line like he's been playing for years. I think they'll need to coach him up for year. Or maybe sit him the first half and start putting him in later.

 

Maybe Emery & crew know what they're doing, I don't know. I still think it's a terrible value pick, and it sure looks to me like they got desperate when the run on OL took place earlier in the round.

 

It's a better pick than Dallas & Buffalo................not saying much though. Looks like Dallas might've panicked on OL even more than the Bears did.

Edited April 26, 2013 by Soul

[bukie]

The real important question here is...how will this affect J-Webb nation?

[Wilson A2000]

Would Polian be interested in coming to the Bears if Emery gets fired?

[GammonsPocketTweets]

Would Polian be interested in coming to the Bears if Emery gets fired?

I hope not.

[Wilson A2000]

Would Polian be interested in coming to the Bears if Emery gets fired?

I hope not.

 

What do you have against drafting in the first rd really really well?

[tfarks]

That he stopped doing it and let his terrible son Chris start.

[bjam12]

so... Bushrod, Long, Garza, Carimi/Slauson, Webb/Carimi?

 

I doubt he'll be the starter in year 1.

 

Emery said he can come in and contribute right away. I don't see any way for an OL to contribute right away if he isn't on the OL.

 

And he was drafted in the first round, so he better freaking start somewhere.

 

 

Maybe Emery & crew know what they're doing, I don't know. I still think it's a terrible value pick, and it sure looks to me like they got desperate when the run on OL took place earlier in the round.

 

It would seem that way but I don't think that's the case just based on Emery's comments. He had this guy targeted from the start.

[GammonsPocketTweets]

Would Polian be interested in coming to the Bears if Emery gets fired?

I hope not.

 

What do you have against drafting in the first rd really really well?

 

Polian was terrible towards the end with the Colts. He's an old man, the game has passed him by. Last year he went on record as saying Russell Wilson was nothing more than a backup in the NFL

[cubbyvirus00]

so... Bushrod, Long, Garza, Carimi/Slauson, Webb/Carimi?

 

I doubt he'll be the starter in year 1.

 

Emery said he can come in and contribute right away. I don't see any way for an OL to contribute right away if he isn't on the OL.

 

And he was drafted in the first round, so he better freaking start somewhere.

 

 

Maybe Emery & crew know what they're doing, I don't know. I still think it's a terrible value pick, and it sure looks to me like they got desperate when the run on OL took place earlier in the round.

 

It would seem that way but I don't think that's the case just based on Emery's comments. He had this guy targeted from the start.

 

Which makes Emery all the more stupid

 

Sleeping on this pick, we gotta see how Long develops. It's not wise to just draft on athletic ability. Especially on players that are reported to have character concerns. Self entitled spoiled rich kid was out there on him

Edited April 26, 2013 by cubbyvirus00

[Pushfrog98]

Well, I finally got over 4000 (with Long as the 1st pick).

 

Your Picks:

Round 1 Pick 20: Kyle Long, OT, Oregon ©

Round 2 Pick 30 (BALT): Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee (A)

Round 3 Pick 31 (S.F.): Barrett Jones, C, Alabama (B)

Round 3 Pick 32 (BALT): Ryan Swope, WR, Texas A&M (A)

Round 4 Pick 20: B.W. Webb, CB, William & Mary (A)

Round 4 Pick 31 (S.F.): Hugh Thornton, OG, Illinois (A)

Round 5 Pick 1 (K.C.): Gerald Hodges, OLB, Penn State (A)

Round 5 Pick 20: Kyle Juszczyk, FB, Harvard (A)

Round 5 Pick 24 (S.F.): Marcus Lattimore, RB, South Carolina (A)

Round 5 Pick 27 (HOU): Earl Watford, OG, James Madison (B+)

Round 5 Pick 32 (BALT): Chris Faulk, OT, LSU (A-)

Round 6 Pick 1 (JAX): Anthony McCloud, DT, Florida State (A)

Round 6 Pick 20: Ryan Otten, TE, San Jose State (A-)

Round 6 Pick 31 (BALT): Jonathan Stewart, ILB, Texas A&M (A-)

Round 6 Pick 32 (BALT): Robert Lester, SS, Alabama (A-)

[tfarks]

Well as impossible as that is, would certainly be fantastic.

[WrigleyField 22]

By the way, regarding Slauson he has snapped in a game three times from what I read (as in 3 total snaps). I'm totally up for doing that and kicking Garza to the curb if he can pick it up though.

 

 

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[davell]

After last nights reach, I'm coming to terms we're about to take a QB at 50.

[KingCubsFan]

After last nights reach, I'm coming to terms we're about to take a QB at 50.

With a fourth round grade.

[Tracer Bullet]

After last nights reach, I'm coming to terms we're about to take a QB at 50.

 

Geno!

[Wilson A2000]

Would rather have had Ogletree/Eifert and then Barrett Jones as guard

[Thed Hoyerstein]

Between last year's pick of McClellin, the hiring of Trestman, and last night's Long pick, I think it's blatantly obvious that Emery's ego clearly wants to prove that it's the smartest in the room. Consider me worried.

 

At least Angelo was just dumb.

[WrigleyField 22]

Between last year's pick of McClellin, the hiring of Trestman, and last night's Long pick, I think it's blatantly obvious that Emery's ego clearly wants to prove that it's the smartest in the room. Consider me worried.

 

At least Angelo was just dumb.

Thats just nonsense.

 

I was not happy with the pick, but that in no way means he's trying to outsmart people. What a baseless claim.

 

 

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[scarey]

Between last year's pick of McClellin, the hiring of Trestman, and last night's Long pick, I think it's blatantly obvious that Emery's ego clearly wants to prove that it's the smartest in the room. Consider me worried.

 

At least Angelo was just dumb.

Thats just nonsense.

 

I was not happy with the pick, but that in no way means he's trying to outsmart people. What a baseless meatball claim.

 

 

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I think this is what you meant.

[Soul]

Maybe Emery & crew know what they're doing, I don't know. I still think it's a terrible value pick, and it sure looks to me like they got desperate when the run on OL took place earlier in the round.

 

It would seem that way but I don't think that's the case just based on Emery's comments. He had this guy targeted from the start.

 

Which makes Emery all the more stupid

 

Doesn't really matter what the reality was behind closed doors -- I'd expect any GM to come out and say "he was our guy from the beginning."

 

I'm not taking his statement as-is. It's PR.