Bears Offseason Thread (Trestman new HC, pg 37)

[cubbyvirus00]

The Bears are the Cubs of the NFL. So [expletive] stupid.

 

The Cubs are stupid?

 

Cubbyvirus gonna cubbyvirus.

 

Ok the Cubs aren't stupid and in fact they're very smart!

[ctcf]

The meatballs in this thread are way too spicy for me. Gives me heartburn.

 

Prilosec, brah.

[USSoccer]

The meatballs in this thread are way too spicy for me. Gives me heartburn.

 

Give me a break with this nonsense. People are well within their rights to look at a draft where they reached on their 1st pick, did alright with the 2nd and 3rd and then drafted more redundancy with their 4th. It's pretty unexciting and underwhelming. They don't need 11 OL. They could use another WR for when Bennett or Jeffrey break and we trot out a pile of crap alongside a triple covered Marshall.

[Guest]

LOL. Screw this team. Wasting another draft without giving Cutler any help.

 

Huh?

 

What an odd thing to say when they reached on a high upside OL in the first round.

 

They overdrafted a 24 year old meth head with a total of 5 college games under his belt or some crap.

 

Well, that's kind of painting it negatively for the sake of nothing else but painting it negatively. Had they gotten him at 30 or beyond, the pick would've been fine. My main issue was that Eifert and Floyd (who wouldn't have been help for Cutler) were available.

 

Regardless, I'm not sure how your read is that they're not trying to get Cutler help after doing that. Nor do I see where Cutler really needs more help at this point. A speedy WR would be nice, but there really is no excuse left for Jay if the offense doesn't do better.

[Guest]

The Bears are the Cubs of the NFL. So [expletive] stupid.

 

The Cubs are stupid?

 

Cubbyvirus gonna cubbyvirus.

 

Ok the Cubs aren't stupid and in fact they're very smart!

 

It seems you meant a 100% true statement as sarcasm. Sweet.

[USSoccer]

LOL. Screw this team. Wasting another draft without giving Cutler any help.

 

Huh?

 

What an odd thing to say when they reached on a high upside OL in the first round.

 

They overdrafted a 24 year old meth head with a total of 5 college games under his belt or some crap.

 

Well, that's kind of painting it negatively for the sake of nothing else but painting it negatively. Had they gotten him at 30 or beyond, the pick would've been fine. My main issue was that Eifert and Floyd (who wouldn't have been help for Cutler) were available.

 

Regardless, I'm not sure how your read is that they're not trying to get Cutler help after doing that. Nor do I see where Cutler really needs more help at this point. A speedy WR would be nice, but there really is no excuse left for Jay if the offense doesn't do better.

 

They now have 11 OL. They don't need 11 OL. They have Marshall and Jeffrey, and then Bennett and TBD at WR. They have Bennett and the rotating circus of failure at TE. So like I said, when Bennett or Jeffrey break again, who picks up the slack and helps out Marshall?

 

I don't see how a couple OG/OT project-ish guys is helping Cutler.

[Sosa21MVP]

The meatballs in this thread are way too spicy for me. Gives me heartburn.

 

Give me a break with this nonsense. People are well within their rights to look at a draft where they reached on their 1st pick, did alright with the 2nd and 3rd and then drafted more redundancy with their 4th. It's pretty unexciting and underwhelming. They don't need 11 OL. They could use another WR for when Bennett or Jeffrey break and we trot out a pile of crap alongside a triple covered Marshall.

 

Because I was trying to take away your right to vent? Just commenting on what I've seen in this thread since the draft started. An awful lot of teams have continued to pass on this Swopes kid that everyone is drooling over.

[ctcf]

The meatballs in this thread are way too spicy for me. Gives me heartburn.

 

Give me a break with this nonsense. People are well within their rights to look at a draft where they reached on their 1st pick, did alright with the 2nd and 3rd and then drafted more redundancy with their 4th. It's pretty unexciting and underwhelming. They don't need 11 OL. They could use another WR for when Bennett or Jeffrey break and we trot out a pile of crap alongside a triple covered Marshall.

 

That anyone on NSBB thinks they know enough about scouting football players to actually get as worked up as some of the folks in here (see: cubbyvirus) have is nonsense. But thanks to them for being entertaining (I guess?)

Edited April 27, 2013 by ctcf

[USSoccer]

The meatballs in this thread are way too spicy for me. Gives me heartburn.

 

Give me a break with this nonsense. People are well within their rights to look at a draft where they reached on their 1st pick, did alright with the 2nd and 3rd and then drafted more redundancy with their 4th. It's pretty unexciting and underwhelming. They don't need 11 OL. They could use another WR for when Bennett or Jeffrey break and we trot out a pile of crap alongside a triple covered Marshall.

 

Because I was trying to take away your right to vent? Just commenting on what I've seen in this thread since the draft started. An awful lot of teams have continued to pass on this Swopes kid that everyone is drooling over.

 

Because NFL teams fap it over measurables during draft week and constantly overlook undersized quick guys.

[cubbyvirus00]

The meatballs in this thread are way too spicy for me. Gives me heartburn.

 

Give me a break with this nonsense. People are well within their rights to look at a draft where they reached on their 1st pick, did alright with the 2nd and 3rd and then drafted more redundancy with their 4th. It's pretty unexciting and underwhelming. They don't need 11 OL. They could use another WR for when Bennett or Jeffrey break and we trot out a pile of crap alongside a triple covered Marshall.

 

They definitely need WR depth because I doubt Bennett can be effective for 16 games in the slot. Marshall has a lot of mileage Nd the multiple hip surgeries are.....interesting.

[USSoccer]

The meatballs in this thread are way too spicy for me. Gives me heartburn.

 

Give me a break with this nonsense. People are well within their rights to look at a draft where they reached on their 1st pick, did alright with the 2nd and 3rd and then drafted more redundancy with their 4th. It's pretty unexciting and underwhelming. They don't need 11 OL. They could use another WR for when Bennett or Jeffrey break and we trot out a pile of crap alongside a triple covered Marshall.

 

That anyone on NSBB thinks they know enough about scouting football players to actually get as worked up as some of the folks in here (see: cubbyvirus) have is nonsense. But thanks for being entertaining.

 

Whatever, CT. Scouting is pretty unexact, and you don't have to work for an NFL team to have an opinion. If that's your stance, we may as well close up 4/5th of the threads here.

[cubbyvirus00]

The meatballs in this thread are way too spicy for me. Gives me heartburn.

 

Give me a break with this nonsense. People are well within their rights to look at a draft where they reached on their 1st pick, did alright with the 2nd and 3rd and then drafted more redundancy with their 4th. It's pretty unexciting and underwhelming. They don't need 11 OL. They could use another WR for when Bennett or Jeffrey break and we trot out a pile of crap alongside a triple covered Marshall.

 

That anyone on NSBB thinks they know enough about scouting football players to actually get as worked up as some of the folks in here (see: cubbyvirus) have is nonsense. But thanks to them for being entertaining (I guess?)

 

You've literally offered nothing to this thread except to occasionally come by to [expletive] on people that enjoy the draft and have fun with it. Who's the real tool? To think people know enough about baseball to join an online forum to get worked up about trades can be considered 'nonsense' too.

Edited April 27, 2013 by cubbyvirus00

[Sosa21MVP]

The meatballs in this thread are way too spicy for me. Gives me heartburn.

 

Give me a break with this nonsense. People are well within their rights to look at a draft where they reached on their 1st pick, did alright with the 2nd and 3rd and then drafted more redundancy with their 4th. It's pretty unexciting and underwhelming. They don't need 11 OL. They could use another WR for when Bennett or Jeffrey break and we trot out a pile of crap alongside a triple covered Marshall.

 

Because I was trying to take away your right to vent? Just commenting on what I've seen in this thread since the draft started. An awful lot of teams have continued to pass on this Swopes kid that everyone is drooling over.

 

Because NFL teams fap it over measurables during draft week and constantly overlook undersized quick guys.

 

Honestly I don't feel like the Bears are in dire need of more weapons if the OL and playcalling is significantly improved. I wouldn't have minded seeing a WR or TE drafted to this point but I don't mind drafting more OL. Maybe the new guys can push out the older junk like Garza and Carimi.

[Guest]

LOL. Screw this team. Wasting another draft without giving Cutler any help.

 

Huh?

 

What an odd thing to say when they reached on a high upside OL in the first round.

 

They overdrafted a 24 year old meth head with a total of 5 college games under his belt or some crap.

 

Well, that's kind of painting it negatively for the sake of nothing else but painting it negatively. Had they gotten him at 30 or beyond, the pick would've been fine. My main issue was that Eifert and Floyd (who wouldn't have been help for Cutler) were available.

 

Regardless, I'm not sure how your read is that they're not trying to get Cutler help after doing that. Nor do I see where Cutler really needs more help at this point. A speedy WR would be nice, but there really is no excuse left for Jay if the offense doesn't do better.

 

They now have 11 OL. They don't need 11 OL. They have Marshall and Jeffrey, and then Bennett and TBD at WR. They have Bennett and the rotating circus of failure at TE. So like I said, when Bennett or Jeffrey break again, who picks up the slack and helps out Marshall?

 

I don't see how a couple OG/OT project-ish guys is helping Cutler.

 

I don't really have an issue with going for quantity at OL and then seeing who they can coach up and picking the best 5. It has to improve the line.

 

If your issue is who the 4th and 5th WR are, fine, I guess. I'm not all that worried that they won't be able to find somebody to stick there.

 

TE could use some more depth, for sure.

[davell]

Currently, our 3rd/4th CB's are Hayden and Bowman. Our 3rd WR is Bennett, without having a 4th. I DO think taking a WR in the 6th is necessary, maybe a developmental CB in the 7th. Just figure on drafting 2 CB's early next year, assuming one of Tillman or Jennings leaves.

[cubbyvirus00]

 

They overdrafted a 24 year old meth head with a total of 5 college games under his belt or some crap.

 

Well, that's kind of painting it negatively for the sake of nothing else but painting it negatively. Had they gotten him at 30 or beyond, the pick would've been fine. My main issue was that Eifert and Floyd (who wouldn't have been help for Cutler) were available.

 

Regardless, I'm not sure how your read is that they're not trying to get Cutler help after doing that. Nor do I see where Cutler really needs more help at this point. A speedy WR would be nice, but there really is no excuse left for Jay if the offense doesn't do better.

 

They now have 11 OL. They don't need 11 OL. They have Marshall and Jeffrey, and then Bennett and TBD at WR. They have Bennett and the rotating circus of failure at TE. So like I said, when Bennett or Jeffrey break again, who picks up the slack and helps out Marshall?

 

I don't see how a couple OG/OT project-ish guys is helping Cutler.

 

I don't really have an issue with going for quantity at OL and then seeing who they can coach up and picking the best 5. It has to improve the line.

 

If your issue is who the 4th and 5th WR are, fine, I guess. I'm not all that worried that they won't be able to find somebody to stick there.

 

TE could use some more depth, for sure.

 

I'd argue with Bennett being a 3rd WR. He's had a few good games but is too inconsistent.

[Guest]

Currently, our 3rd/4th CB's are Hayden and Bowman. Our 3rd WR is Bennett, without having a 4th. I DO think taking a WR in the 6th is necessary, maybe a developmental CB in the 7th. Just figure on drafting 2 CB's early next year, assuming one of Tillman or Jennings leaves.

 

Is Weems as a 4th WR really a big problem?

[USSoccer]

 

They now have 11 OL. They don't need 11 OL. They have Marshall and Jeffrey, and then Bennett and TBD at WR. They have Bennett and the rotating circus of failure at TE. So like I said, when Bennett or Jeffrey break again, who picks up the slack and helps out Marshall?

 

I don't see how a couple OG/OT project-ish guys is helping Cutler.

 

I don't really have an issue with going for quantity at OL and then seeing who they can coach up and picking the best 5. It has to improve the line.

 

If your issue is who the 4th and 5th WR are, fine, I guess. I'm not all that worried that they won't be able to find somebody to stick there.

 

TE could use some more depth, for sure.

 

I look at it like this: if you have multiple weapons on offense who are able to make plays, your line doesn't have to hold the defense at bay for 6 seconds per play. I guess they're looking at it as though they can just toss as many guys into the mix as possible and find 8 good ones, but even if they field an above average line, you still need playmakers.

 

They're essentially going into 2013 with the same cast of playmakers that wasn't good enough last year.

Edited April 27, 2013 by USSoccer

[davell]

Swope just went. But I gotta admit seeing him get passed over continuously did make me wonder why I've wanted him since the 4th......

[ctcf]

The meatballs in this thread are way too spicy for me. Gives me heartburn.

 

Give me a break with this nonsense. People are well within their rights to look at a draft where they reached on their 1st pick, did alright with the 2nd and 3rd and then drafted more redundancy with their 4th. It's pretty unexciting and underwhelming. They don't need 11 OL. They could use another WR for when Bennett or Jeffrey break and we trot out a pile of crap alongside a triple covered Marshall.

 

That anyone on NSBB thinks they know enough about scouting football players to actually get as worked up as some of the folks in here (see: cubbyvirus) have is nonsense. But thanks for being entertaining.

 

Whatever, CT. Scouting is pretty unexact, and you don't have to work for an NFL team to have an opinion. If that's your stance, we may as well close up 4/5th of the threads here.

 

It is pretty unexact, and I have no qualms with someone having an opinion, even stupid ones. What does amuse/trouble me is people acting like they honestly believe they could do a better job. That's just funny.

[Sosa21MVP]

 

They now have 11 OL. They don't need 11 OL. They have Marshall and Jeffrey, and then Bennett and TBD at WR. They have Bennett and the rotating circus of failure at TE. So like I said, when Bennett or Jeffrey break again, who picks up the slack and helps out Marshall?

 

I don't see how a couple OG/OT project-ish guys is helping Cutler.

 

I don't really have an issue with going for quantity at OL and then seeing who they can coach up and picking the best 5. It has to improve the line.

 

If your issue is who the 4th and 5th WR are, fine, I guess. I'm not all that worried that they won't be able to find somebody to stick there.

 

TE could use some more depth, for sure.

 

I look at it like this: if you have multiple weapons on offense who are able to make plays, your line doesn't have to hold the defense at bay for 6 seconds per play. I guess they're looking at it as though they can just toss as many guys into the mix as possible and find 8 good ones, but even if they field an above average line, you still need playmakers.

 

They're essentially going into 2013 with the same cast of playmakers that wasn't good enough last year.

 

Bennett should be a pretty big upgrade over Kellen Davis. Plus having a healthy Alshon for a full season *knock on wood*.

Edited April 27, 2013 by Sosa21MVP

[USSoccer]

The meatballs in this thread are way too spicy for me. Gives me heartburn.

 

Give me a break with this nonsense. People are well within their rights to look at a draft where they reached on their 1st pick, did alright with the 2nd and 3rd and then drafted more redundancy with their 4th. It's pretty unexciting and underwhelming. They don't need 11 OL. They could use another WR for when Bennett or Jeffrey break and we trot out a pile of crap alongside a triple covered Marshall.

 

That anyone on NSBB thinks they know enough about scouting football players to actually get as worked up as some of the folks in here (see: cubbyvirus) have is nonsense. But thanks for being entertaining.

 

Whatever, CT. Scouting is pretty unexact, and you don't have to work for an NFL team to have an opinion. If that's your stance, we may as well close up 4/5th of the threads here.

 

It is pretty unexact, and I have no qualms with someone having an opinion, even stupid ones. What does amuse/trouble me is people acting like they honestly believe they could do a better job. That's just funny.

 

There are posters on this board that I would trust to be better at identifying talent than a lot of the people in those positions for Chicago teams. Your appeal to authority nonsense is tiring.

[Guest]

 

I look at it like this: if you have multiple weapons on offense who are able to make plays, your line doesn't have to hold the defense at bay for 6 seconds per play. I guess they're looking at it as though they can just toss as many guys into the mix as possible and find 8 good ones, but even if they field an above average line, you still need playmakers.

 

They're essentially going into 2013 with the same cast of playmakers that wasn't good enough last year.

 

Part of that was Jeffery being a rookie...part of it was Jeffery being hurt. I expect him to be a much bigger contributor.

 

Part of it was also awful playcalling. Part of it was not using Forte in the passing game, which is where he is actually valuable compared to any run of the mill RB.

 

They also had no TEs worth anything, which is obviously no longer the case (even if it's only one dude).

 

I'm fine with where they are in the skill positions. They needed to be coached better and they needed to block better. Hopefully they'll improve substantially in those areas. It's hard for anybody to be much worse than we were in either department, so it shouldn't be that hard to get nice gains there.

[tfarks]

Concussions.

[davell]

Currently, our 3rd/4th CB's are Hayden and Bowman. Our 3rd WR is Bennett, without having a 4th. I DO think taking a WR in the 6th is necessary, maybe a developmental CB in the 7th. Just figure on drafting 2 CB's early next year, assuming one of Tillman or Jennings leaves.

 

Is Weems as a 4th WR really a big problem?

Honestly, he hasn't been on the field in his career to know, has he? That can't bode well, can it? Plus, one injury and we're really hurting......If we add a FA, I'm fine too, but that position gets paid and we don't have cap room.