Chicago Bulls Offseason

[Cubbies622]

Deng and Noah have horrible contracts?

 

Yes they have bad contracts.

 

And I was on a mobile device Banedon, so 'MVP of the trade targets' translates to "our most valuable trade asset."

 

Oh and if the Bulls match Asik's offer, I will officially blow a gasket.

Noah signed a 5 year 60 million dollar contract.

 

He is one of the better Centers in the league and making an affordable 12 million dollars a year. He is absolutely not overpaid and would be a valuable trade asset.

[cubbyvirus00]

When was the last time the Bulls have gone over the cap? Obviously the goal of this team is to now reshuffle the deck instead of sign vomit to guarantee us a first round knockout and a [expletive] draft pick. I want to see movement, not a standstill 'keep the core together' mentality.

 

So you just want movement for the sake of something new.

 

Can't resign Gibson with the contracts currently on the books if you wanted to. Oh and he's also the MVP of our trade targets because Deng and Noah have horrible contracts. Bottom line, Paxton falls in love with his 'core' to the detriment of this franchise.

You mean the same core that had the best record in the NBA the last two years?

 

Kings of the regular season! That means something right?!

[Sammy Sofa]

Yes, actually.

[cubbyvirus00]

Deng and Noah have horrible contracts?

 

Yes they have bad contracts.

 

And I was on a mobile device Banedon, so 'MVP of the trade targets' translates to "our most valuable trade asset."

 

Oh and if the Bulls match Asik's offer, I will officially blow a gasket.

Noah signed a 5 year 60 million dollar contract.

 

He is one of the better Centers in the league and making an affordable 12 million dollars a year. He is absolutely not overpaid and would be a valuable trade asset.

 

Strange, because he's forced to sit in the 4th quarter of important games.

 

That leaves Boozer and Noah offensive black holes, with much of our cap space sunk into those two.

 

No matter how you cut it, this team isn't good enough to win the title.

[Sammy Sofa]

Asik being a better defender doesn't make Noah's contract a bad one.

[cubbyvirus00]

Yes, actually.

 

So when JL3 lights up Lebron James and the deep Bench Mob plays outstanding basketball, I can gloat and parade that the Bulls are championship material?

[Sammy Sofa]

Really, if you went just by this guy's posts you'd assume the Bulls were a terrible team riddled with terrible contracts run by one of the most incompetent FO in the NBA.

 

But then he'll turn around and say "they're not good enough to win the title," nevermind that he's gone out of his way to make them sound like a hapless organization that would be lucky to win 40 games.

[Guest]

Yes, actually.

 

So when JL3 lights up Lebron James and the deep Bench Mob plays outstanding basketball, I can gloat and parade that the Bulls are championship material?

 

You're right. A healthy Bulls team would've had no chance to get by Miami this year. None.

[Guest]

Really, if you went just by this guy's posts you'd assume the Bulls were a terrible team riddled with terrible contracts run by one of the most incompetent FO in the NBA.

 

But then he'll turn around and say "they're not good enough to win the title," nevermind that he's gone out of his way to make them sound like a hapless organization that would be lucky to win 40 games.

 

His posts are a [expletive] clown.

[Sammy Sofa]

Yes, actually.

 

So when JL3 lights up Lebron James and the deep Bench Mob plays outstanding basketball, I can gloat and parade that the Bulls are championship material?

 

That would be pretty stupid given the health issues they're facing next season.

[Sammy Sofa]

Sports fans like this are the absolute worst; when you create this ridiculous high standard of championship or bust, what's even the point? The odds are stacked so high against winning it all you're just setting yourself up to be furious and miserable every single year.

[cubbyvirus00]

Really, if you went just by this guy's posts you'd assume the Bulls were a terrible team riddled with terrible contracts run by one of the most incompetent FO in the NBA.

 

But then he'll turn around and say "they're not good enough to win the title," nevermind that he's gone out of his way to make them sound like a hapless organization that would be lucky to win 40 games.

 

 

What has Paxson done to warrant anything more then a D grade? He's tried or wanted to extend every single player he has every drafted. He's done poorly in free agency and he's drafted mediocre players. Oh and he lucked into the #1 pick.

 

Wake up, this team is in NBA hell. Their depth is now gone and we're stuck with an injured Rose/Deng/Noah for the time being, and an overpaid bum in Boozer.

[cubbyvirus00]

Really, if you went just by this guy's posts you'd assume the Bulls were a terrible team riddled with terrible contracts run by one of the most incompetent FO in the NBA.

 

But then he'll turn around and say "they're not good enough to win the title," nevermind that he's gone out of his way to make them sound like a hapless organization that would be lucky to win 40 games.

 

His posts are a [expletive] clown.

 

Hindsight is 20/20 and please stop saying IF they were healthy they had a chance.

 

They weren't healthy and it was widely accepted that their chances were iffy on beating the Heat and purely based on LBJ 'choking.'

[jersey cubs fan]

What has Paxson done to warrant anything more then a D grade?

 

His team has been well above average throughout his tenure in a salary cap league so I think that alone makes a C+ the bare minimum grade.

[Guest]

Really, if you went just by this guy's posts you'd assume the Bulls were a terrible team riddled with terrible contracts run by one of the most incompetent FO in the NBA.

 

But then he'll turn around and say "they're not good enough to win the title," nevermind that he's gone out of his way to make them sound like a hapless organization that would be lucky to win 40 games.

 

His posts are a [expletive] clown.

 

Hindsight is 20/20 and please stop saying IF they were healthy they had a chance.

 

They weren't healthy and it was widely accepted that their chances were iffy on beating the Heat and purely based on LBJ 'choking.'

 

So Rose's ACL tearing means this roster was poorly constructed?

[Guest]

Really, if you went just by this guy's posts you'd assume the Bulls were a terrible team riddled with terrible contracts run by one of the most incompetent FO in the NBA.

 

But then he'll turn around and say "they're not good enough to win the title," nevermind that he's gone out of his way to make them sound like a hapless organization that would be lucky to win 40 games.

 

 

What has Paxson done to warrant anything more then a D grade? He's tried or wanted to extend every single player he has every drafted. He's done poorly in free agency and he's drafted mediocre players. Oh and he lucked into the #1 pick.

 

Wake up, this team is in NBA hell. Their depth is now gone and we're stuck with an injured Rose/Deng/Noah for the time being, and an overpaid bum in Boozer.

 

How about the remarkable job they did of assembling a team after the superfriends banded together and shut us out of any of the elite free agents?

 

They couldn't have done a better job in 2010 than they did.

Edited July 10, 2012 by David

[Sammy Sofa]

Really, if you went just by this guy's posts you'd assume the Bulls were a terrible team riddled with terrible contracts run by one of the most incompetent FO in the NBA.

 

But then he'll turn around and say "they're not good enough to win the title," nevermind that he's gone out of his way to make them sound like a hapless organization that would be lucky to win 40 games.

 

 

What has Paxson done to warrant anything more then a D grade? He's tried or wanted to extend every single player he has every drafted. He's done poorly in free agency and he's drafted mediocre players. Oh and he lucked into the #1 pick.

 

Wake up, this team is in NBA hell. Their depth is now gone and we're stuck with an injured Rose/Deng/Noah for the time being, and an overpaid bum in Boozer.

 

They're not "stuck" with Deng, Noah and Rose; all three are very valuable players, and to talk about them like they're not likely to contribute again or are busts is just absurd.

 

Boozer is the one bad signing they're carrying right now, so quit trying to spin that as the team being poorly constructed when it's so obviously not. "NBA hell" isn't winning like the Bulls have for the last two seasons.

 

And no credit for hiring Thibs? And you give them credit for the depth, but then talk like it's impossible they can build another quality bench. Which is it?

[Sammy Sofa]

I mean, you understand that the quote in your sig isn't ironic, right?

[Guest]

I mean, you understand that the quote in your sig isn't ironic, right?

 

I consider it more of a warning.

[cubbyvirus00]

Really, if you went just by this guy's posts you'd assume the Bulls were a terrible team riddled with terrible contracts run by one of the most incompetent FO in the NBA.

 

But then he'll turn around and say "they're not good enough to win the title," nevermind that he's gone out of his way to make them sound like a hapless organization that would be lucky to win 40 games.

 

His posts are a [expletive] clown.

 

Hindsight is 20/20 and please stop saying IF they were healthy they had a chance.

 

They weren't healthy and it was widely accepted that their chances were iffy on beating the Heat and purely based on LBJ 'choking.'

 

So Rose's ACL tearing means this roster was poorly constructed?

 

Expecting Rose to play at a MVP level year in and year out is a bit of a stretch, not to mention if he has a down year this team is done.

 

There were and are obvious huge flaws in the construction of the roster.

[Pushfrog98]

This argument bores me. Maybe if we stop talking, CubbyVirus will stop replying?

[Sammy Sofa]

Really, if you went just by this guy's posts you'd assume the Bulls were a terrible team riddled with terrible contracts run by one of the most incompetent FO in the NBA.

 

But then he'll turn around and say "they're not good enough to win the title," nevermind that he's gone out of his way to make them sound like a hapless organization that would be lucky to win 40 games.

 

His posts are a [expletive] clown.

 

Hindsight is 20/20 and please stop saying IF they were healthy they had a chance.

 

They weren't healthy and it was widely accepted that their chances were iffy on beating the Heat and purely based on LBJ 'choking.'

 

So Rose's ACL tearing means this roster was poorly constructed?

 

Expecting Rose to play at a MVP level year in and year out is a bit of a stretch, not to mention if he has a down year this team is done.

 

There were and are obvious huge flaws in the construction of the roster.

 

Nobody is saying it was a perfect team, but you don't accomplish what they have the last two seasons with "obvious huge flaws." They basically had one major flaw.

[Guest]

Really, if you went just by this guy's posts you'd assume the Bulls were a terrible team riddled with terrible contracts run by one of the most incompetent FO in the NBA.

 

But then he'll turn around and say "they're not good enough to win the title," nevermind that he's gone out of his way to make them sound like a hapless organization that would be lucky to win 40 games.

 

His posts are a [expletive] clown.

 

Hindsight is 20/20 and please stop saying IF they were healthy they had a chance.

 

They weren't healthy and it was widely accepted that their chances were iffy on beating the Heat and purely based on LBJ 'choking.'

 

So Rose's ACL tearing means this roster was poorly constructed?

 

Expecting Rose to play at a MVP level year in and year out is a bit of a stretch, not to mention if he has a down year this team is done.

 

There were and are obvious huge flaws in the construction of the roster.

 

So your argument is that they were flawed because they couldn't survive their best player going down?

 

Also, that bit about it being widely accepted that their chances of beating Miami were based purely on "LBJ 'choking'" is nonsense.

[cubbyvirus00]

I mean, you understand that the quote in your sig isn't ironic, right?

 

I find great delight in that this is your 4th or 5th comment about it.

Edited July 10, 2012 by cubbyvirus00

[UMFan83]

He's done poorly in free agency and he's drafted mediocre players.

 

This is hilarious especially the part about the draft

 

2003: 1 (7) Kirk Hinrich

2004: 1 (3) Ben Gordon

2004: 1 (9) Traded essentially cash for the rights to Luol Deng

2004: 2 (8) Chris Duhon

2006: 1 (2) Tyrus Thomas (essentially)

2006: 1 (16) Thabo Sefolosha (essentially)

2007: 1 (9) Joakim Noah

2007: 2 (21) JamesOn Curry

2008: 1 (1) Derrick Rose

2008: 2 (?) Omer Asik

2009: 1 (16) James Johnson

2009: 1 (26) Taj Gibson

2011: 1 (21) Nikola Mirotic

2011: 1 (30) Jimmy Butler

2012: 1 (29) Marquis Teague

 

I mean jeez, relative to pick in the draft, how can anyone look at that drafting history and say Pax has done a poor job drafting? Being able to get a border line All-Star in Deng for nothing. Finding a servicable backup PG in Duhon in the middle of the 2nd round. Getting a top 5 NBA Center in Noah at 9. Getting an excellent defensive guard who starts for the current WC champs at 16. Having the foresight to draft Asik in the late 2nd round and waiting for him to develop and come over to become one of the best defensive big men in the NBA? Drafting a 6th man of the year candidate in Taj Gibson 26th. Turning a situation where they didn't have room on the roster for a second 1st round pick into one of the Bulls best assets currently in Mirotic.

 

Yes he missed big time on Tyrus, James Johnson is ok but disappointing and JamesOn Curry was nothing (but was a late 2nd round pick). Other than that, they have drafted nothing but solid players since 2003. You are looking at 1 superstar, 3 minor stars (Noah, Deng, Gordon), 3 more solid starters (Hinrich, Gibson, Thabo), and 4 solid rotation players on winning teams. I'm not putting Mirotic, Butler and Teague on this list but Butler already looks like he's earned enough trust to replace Brewer in the rotation, Mirotic looks like a potential star in the making or at least a solid starter, and most people gave the Bulls high marks for Teague.

 

So yeah once again, you make a statement that is so far from the truth, you look completely silly. Can we somehow ban virus from the Bulls and Bears threads?