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Kurt Hinrich is back! Booooo!

 

I'm a Kirk Hinrich fan, and I don't believe he'll be as bad as his stats the last couple of years indicate (especially in a diminished role), but why not just bring back Watson? I believe the Bulls had a $3 million player option on him. Why pay Hinrich the same money when Watson has a better PER and is a better three point shooter? I have to think Watson is the better defender at this point too. This one's kind of a head scratcher.

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Kurt Hinrich is back! Booooo!

 

I'm a Kirk Hinrich fan, and I don't believe he'll be as bad as his stats the last couple of years indicate (especially in a diminished role), but why not just bring back Watson? I believe the Bulls had a $3 million player option on him. Why pay Hinrich the same money when Watson has a better PER and is a better three point shooter? I have to think Watson is the better defender at this point too. This one's kind of a head scratcher.

 

Does PER measure grit and "popularity with ignorant fan base"?

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Incompetent and conservative. Yes.

 

Not that I'm a big fan of the move but who would you have plugged in at PG instead with Rose out?

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Incompetent and conservative. Yes.

 

Not that I'm a big fan of the move but who would you have plugged in at PG instead with Rose out?

 

I would have cleared cap space and transition to being sellers because this team has proved to be very afraid of the luxury tax and we clearly are waiting for Mirotic.

 

Download the 07/05 interview on the Score with Aschburner. Free agents to this point have showed very little desire to come to Chicago. This team is going nowhere.

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I don't hate the Kirk signing but if it's just to replace CJ than, I don't see how it makes the team better. It doesn't really make them worse though. That also makes two Iowans on the roster so that means something from an emotional stand point to me.
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Maybe Watson's injury problems are a long term concern

 

watson can't run an offense full time. he's basically a shooter

 

hinrich is basically the type of player i expected. it's not like we had a lot of options. he's better than derek fisher. he can handle the ball and he still shoots the 3, so whatever. the rose injury fucked us badly, this is what we're left with for a season.

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Incompetent and conservative. Yes.

 

Not that I'm a big fan of the move but who would you have plugged in at PG instead with Rose out?

 

I would have cleared cap space and transition to being sellers because this team has proved to be very afraid of the luxury tax and we clearly are waiting for Mirotic.

 

Download the 07/05 interview on the Score with Aschburner. Free agents to this point have showed very little desire to come to Chicago. This team is going nowhere.

 

Yes Free Agents don't want to come to Chicago when you have $3 million to spend and everyone else is offering more.

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On Doug Thonus' podcast today, he mentioned something interesting. He said that although CJ and Brewer's contracts must be decided upon before the moratorium is over, supposedly Korver's contract doesnt become guaranteed until some time in early January. So if that's true, theoretically you can bring Korver back and in January either release him, find a trade for him or guarantee him for the rest of the year. And as many know, the luxury tax doesnt get levied until the end of the season, and its about where you are at when the regular season is over.

 

I think Doug is quite reliable and he doesnt really mention things he's heard second hand without confirming for himself, but it seems a little weird if this is true because I've heard absolutely no one else mention this. If its true, there is no reason to not bring Korver back at least to start the year.

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Yeah, the nonguaranteed contract makes Korver valuable. I was thinking he'd be a part of a trade, since he's not even an expiring, but a guy a team can immediately release. Doesn't seem to be the case for now though.
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I've pretty much become resigned to the fact that the Bulls will never pay the luxury tax. They'll just come up with some sorry ass excuse that said player wouldn't put them over the top to win a title. It's pretty pathetic.
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I've pretty much become resigned to the fact that the Bulls will never pay the luxury tax. They'll just come up with some sorry ass excuse that said player wouldn't put them over the top to win a title. It's pretty pathetic.

 

I don't think you understand how NBA salary caps work.

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I've pretty much become resigned to the fact that the Bulls will never pay the luxury tax. They'll just come up with some sorry ass excuse that said player wouldn't put them over the top to win a title. It's pretty pathetic.

 

Agreed. On the interview I mentioned, it was said that with MJ and Scottie [expletive] talking Krause and Bulls management, it paints Chicago in a negative light that could have a long lasting impression of the organization. Reinsdorf remains and it could be a valid argument that the Bulls have sucked ass in nearly every department post MJ prior to Roses arrival. The scouting and drafting being giant buckets of fail.

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I've pretty much become resigned to the fact that the Bulls will never pay the luxury tax. They'll just come up with some sorry ass excuse that said player wouldn't put them over the top to win a title. It's pretty pathetic.

 

I don't think you understand how NBA salary caps work.

 

 

Thanks for the irrelvant smart ass post that pertains to nothing.

 

Pretty much the vibe I get from the front office is that avoiding the tax is the #1 priority for the team, not adding talent. Of course this offseason is pretty much a wash with Rose being out, but I don't get a good feelling that when the rubber meets the road let's say in 2014 that they will be taxpayers either. Not saying that being a tax payer = success, but this constant obsession by the FO of tax avoidence is unnerving. I mean, the owners have made billions of dollars on the Bulls the past decade, give me a break.

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yea, because this move definitely pertains to that

 

Actually, it kinda of does. The Bulls didn't even try for an better options like Lou Williams, or Bayless. Williams would be awesome, but he would at least require the full MLE which would put the Bulls right up against the tax. Now a guy like Williams wouldn't put the Bulls over the top, but he would be a nice kick ass option to have even when Derrick comes back as a guy who can get his own offense.

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I've pretty much become resigned to the fact that the Bulls will never pay the luxury tax. They'll just come up with some sorry ass excuse that said player wouldn't put them over the top to win a title. It's pretty pathetic.

 

Hilarious because the way things are set up financially right now, they are all but certain to pay the tax next year regardless of whether they pick up Omer.

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