Dempster Traded to Texas for 3B Villanueva & RHP Hendricks

[SouthSideRyan]

BOY GENIUS needs to stop [expletive] around, and start trying to win games.

[neely crenshaw]

Darvish was a blind draw. You have no idea how much it will cost to even talk with him.

He may end up being the greatest pitcher ever, and it wouldn't have made sense to do it at the price the rangers paid.

We could have paid Beltran, Buehrle and Pujols for what it cost for the rights to him. That doesn't even count his deal.

When you have so few players it seems a pretty poor decision to throw that much money at a guy who looks great but is very,very unknown.

 

Their goal is to get the organization on solid ground. Yes, it certainly looks like we could do a quick fix and be competitive again very quickly. As much as I enjoyed having those teams that won, and were expected to win it didn't work out. We could do that again, and heck maybe even win a title. However in the long run we would end up right back here again.

I have always felt that being from chicago and having money to spend, there is no reason we can't do what the cardinals, braves, phillies, etc do and compete every year. In order to do that you must have a system underneath, you must develop some talent on your own. The more of that you do, the less you have to buy!

I know we have a tendency to love our own guys, but you have to look at what we have on the realize there isn't much.

Casey Colemen is our closest starter coming from our system? The next best our in AA! Our AAA is stocked with other teams disgards.

We are hoping that every possible player works out because we simply don't have any room to miss.

Just consider where we would be if Jackson, Vitters, Rizzo and any of the catchers don't turn out. Very shortly we would be at Castro, Shark and Barney. That's a whole lot of spending to be competitive!

Just be adding Villanueva we now have 2-3B that are due to develop about the same time. That gives us double the chance of getting 1 there, and if 2 develop...we now have a chip to trade to fill another spot. If you aren't the yankees, you have to do things the right way.

They will spend money but we have to get better as an organization or it will just be a repeat. The only regret is that when hendry was here and we were supposed to be loaded with prospects, and he was allowed to spend like a drunken sailor, that it wasn't this group doing it.

It sucks being awful. We just have to have faith they know what they are doing, they have the resume. Patience and keep looking at the big picture!

[Backtobanks]

BOY GENIUS needs to stop [expletive] around, and start trying to win games.

 

Not part of the master plan. Got to keep sucking to gain draft picks.

[Guest]

yea, at least hendry sucked on accident every year

[Backtobanks]

yea, at least hendry sucked on accident every year

 

I thought I was the one who brought him into every discussion. :lol:

[Mark Priors Calves]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-dempster-thanks-fans-with-fullpage-ad-20120803,0,1607009.story

 

the bad part of me thinks "DAMAGE CONTROL," but mostly i think this was nice of him.

Newspapers should root for long tenured players to leave their tens so they can get guaranteed ad revenue fom the full page ads they take out.

[Guest]

yea, at least hendry sucked on accident every year

 

I thought I was the one who brought him into every discussion. :lol:

 

 

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[sneakypower]

BOY GENIUS needs to stop [expletive] around, and start trying to win games.

 

Not part of the master plan. Got to keep sucking to gain draft picks.

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[Irrelevant Dude]

I don't see that anyone has mentioned this yet.

 

Sources confirmed Saturday that Cubs management did not let the Dodgers know they were letting Dempster listen in on phone calls between the team Tuesday regarding the possibility of a trade to them. The serious breach of ethics figures to affect the relationship between the two organizations, which had been on good terms until now.

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/334172-dodgers-irate-over-cubs-trade-ethics-breach

 

Somehow I feel no sympathy for the Dodgers and their lowball offer.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

That actually is pretty shady. Not that I care.

[Guest]

i don't see why it really matters. anyways, if it was actually a big deal, then they wouldn't have admitted it so freely. go pound sand, dodgers

[Theo]

It's not really that big of deal.

[Theo]

Also, [expletive] the Dodgers.

[dew1679666265]

Why would it matter that Demp was listening in? I guess if Colletti was really dogging Demp or something he would have liked to have known, but I doubt it really affected anything (other than Demp realizing how little LA wanted him).

[Guest]

i don't see why it really matters. anyways, if it was actually a big deal, then they wouldn't have admitted it so freely. go pound sand, dodgers

Exactly.

[Geech]

Having Dempster secretly listen in a conversation is definitely a touch shady, but I have to believe that many of the details of the negotiations would have gotten back to him one way or another. I wonder what the Dodgers are actually upset about here: the breach of etiquette, or the fact that Theo and Hoyer destroyed their privileged negotiating position.

[Guest]

Having Dempster secretly listen in a conversation is definitely a touch shady, but I have to believe that many of the details of the negotiations would have gotten back to him one way or another. I wonder what the Dodgers are actually upset about here: the breach of etiquette, or the fact that Theo and Hoyer destroyed their privileged negotiating position.

I have to think it's the latter.

[jersey cubs fan]

Having Dempster secretly listen in a conversation is definitely a touch shady, but I have to believe that many of the details of the negotiations would have gotten back to him one way or another. I wonder what the Dodgers are actually upset about here: the breach of etiquette, or the fact that Theo and Hoyer destroyed their privileged negotiating position.

I have to think it's the latter.

 

I would think the former, no doubt. That's a dick move, to allow a player to listen in on a conversation between 2 GMs without letting the other GM know he was on the phone. That goes beyond shady.

[davell]

We'll never know, but supposedly the Cubs had Dempster call Colletti. To hear it from him directly. I have no clue what kind of etiquette is involved in a situation like that. At any rate, it certainly puts the other guy on the spot. That's probably what they're upset about. It still goes back to Dempster being a complete douche throughout the entire process. It takes a lot of audacity to walk into your bosses office so you can oversee what they're doing.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Dempster says he didn't listen in

[Banedon]

Dempster says he didn't listen in

 

Funny thing is that Hoyer pretty specifically said to Mully and Hanley on the Score that Dempster did listen in, and he used those words unprompted.

 

Also, I'm not sure who the guest was this morn, but they said that from what they understand, Ted Lilly was telling Dempster the whole way that the Dodgers really wanted him, and that was why Dempster kept holding off.

[TarzanJoeWallis]

Dempster says he didn't listen in

 

Funny thing is that Hoyer pretty specifically said to Mully and Hanley on the Score that Dempster did listen in, and he used those words unprompted.

 

Also, I'm not sure who the guest was this morn, but they said that from what they understand, Ted Lilly was telling Dempster the whole way that the Dodgers really wanted him, and that was why Dempster kept holding off.

 

I wonder though if by "listening in" they meant he was on the couch in the office hearing the Cubs side of the conversation and not that he was secretly on the line. Just sitting in the office and hearing the Cubs side of the conversation would have allowed him to hear that the Cubs were trying but it just wasn't going anywhere, which would have been helpful too.

[Cubswin11]

Ryan Dempster, the gift that keeps on giving

[champaignchris]

Sounds like a ton of sour grapes from the Dodgers.

 

If you actually wanted Dempster, put up more than the the couple A-ball prospects that the Rangers did. If you didn't actually want Dempster, why do you care whether Dempster knew that fact?

 

Comes down to the fact that they thought they could bend the Cubs over a barrel and it turned out they were wrong.

[davell]

Keep in mind, the initial accusation was from a Paul Sullivan article and there has yet to even be a quote attributed to anyone from the Dodgers.