Dempster Traded to Texas for 3B Villanueva & RHP Hendricks

[Tracer Bullet]

If anything, that article reaffirms to me that Theo is really freaking good at his job. Dempster made that a really difficult situation and I don't know if Theo & Co could have handled it any better.

 

And he played it perfectly in the media by being sympathetic to Dempster when everyone can see from the facts that Dempster had no reason to feel blindsided.

 

Loving this FO

[Banedon]

If anything, that article reaffirms to me that Theo is really freaking good at his job. Dempster made that a really difficult situation and I don't know if Theo & Co could have handled it any better.

 

And he played it perfectly in the media by being sympathetic to Dempster when everyone can see from the facts that Dempster had no reason to feel blindsided.

 

Loving this FO

 

 

Exactly. And then they go out of their way to let Dempster in on the calls to the Dodgers so he could see that they didn't want him. I can't imagine that happening in too many FO's.

[Elrhino]

Epstein also acknowledged he and general manager Jed Hoyer let Dempster listen in on his phone calls with the Dodgers before Tuesday’s trade deadline so Dempster could hear first-hand that the Dodgers were not interested enough to part with any prospects of value. It’s not often a player gets to sit on on his own trade talks.

 

“Some things are better left unsaid,” Epstein said. “It was an unusual situation. But I think it was helpful to have him there so he could hear firsthand that it wasn’t going to happen.

 

:lol:

[dew1679666265]

If anything, that article reaffirms to me that Theo is really freaking good at his job. Dempster made that a really difficult situation and I don't know if Theo & Co could have handled it any better.

 

I agree. Theo ended up getting pretty fair value for Demp and that seemed nearly impossible after Demp shot down the Atlanta trade and tried to force his way to LA.

[Sammy Sofa]

Epstein also acknowledged he and general manager Jed Hoyer let Dempster listen in on his phone calls with the Dodgers before Tuesday’s trade deadline so Dempster could hear first-hand that the Dodgers were not interested enough to part with any prospects of value. It’s not often a player gets to sit on on his own trade talks.

 

“Some things are better left unsaid,” Epstein said. “It was an unusual situation. But I think it was helpful to have him there so he could hear firsthand that it wasn’t going to happen.

 

:lol:

 

That's fantastic.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Epstein also acknowledged he and general manager Jed Hoyer let Dempster listen in on his phone calls with the Dodgers before Tuesday’s trade deadline so Dempster could hear first-hand that the Dodgers were not interested enough to part with any prospects of value. It’s not often a player gets to sit on on his own trade talks.

 

“Some things are better left unsaid,” Epstein said. “It was an unusual situation. But I think it was helpful to have him there so he could hear firsthand that it wasn’t going to happen.

 

:lol:

 

That's fantastic.

 

Sounds like the show Cheaters. I wonder if Dempster ran out of the room crying, or went after Coletti and got in a cat fight with him as the production crew half heartedly tried to break it up.

[EhDubya]

Epstein also acknowledged he and general manager Jed Hoyer let Dempster listen in on his phone calls with the Dodgers before Tuesday’s trade deadline so Dempster could hear first-hand that the Dodgers were not interested enough to part with any prospects of value. It’s not often a player gets to sit on on his own trade talks.

 

“Some things are better left unsaid,” Epstein said. “It was an unusual situation. But I think it was helpful to have him there so he could hear firsthand that it wasn’t going to happen.

 

:lol:

 

That's fantastic.

 

Sounds like the show Cheaters. I wonder if Dempster ran out of the room crying, or went after Coletti and got in a cat fight with him as the production crew half heartedly tried to break it up.

 

It probably happened exactly like that. Great guess.

[Soul]

Theo is the smartest guy in the room. I'm really excited to start seeing the fruits of his labors.

[Pushfrog98]

I sometimes wonder if GM's of inferior intelligence (like Coletti) are intimidated by Theo and Hoyer. They have a knack for finding hidden gems (or at least somehow always getting the upper hand in trades). When they start asking for prospects, do the Coletti's of the world start to panic?

[Gilby]

I sometimes wonder if GM's of inferior intelligence (like Coletti) are intimidated by Theo and Hoyer. They have a knack for finding hidden gems (or at least somehow always getting the upper hand in trades). When they start asking for prospects, do the Coletti's of the world start to panic?

 

My guess is guys who are in the position of GM of other teams are confident enough in themselves to not get scared by Theo. Colletti probably thinks of himself as a good GM.

[Magnetic Curses]

I sometimes wonder if GM's of inferior intelligence (like Coletti) are intimidated by Theo and Hoyer. They have a knack for finding hidden gems (or at least somehow always getting the upper hand in trades). When they start asking for prospects, do the Coletti's of the world start to panic?

 

My guess is guys who are in the position of GM of other teams are confident enough in themselves to not get scared by Theo. Colletti probably thinks of himself as a good GM.

 

I think it's safe to say that Colletti is scared of Theo. Colletti also never wants to lose a trade to the Cubs, which makes him super-duper unlikely to make a big deal with us.

[Guest]

I can't believe how long Colletti has managed to hold onto a job now.

[jersey cubs fan]

I can't believe how long Colletti has managed to hold onto a job now.

 

He came on 3 years after Hendry, has just as many playoff appearances and a much better record.

[Guest]

I can't believe how long Colletti has managed to hold onto a job now.

 

He came on 3 years after Hendry, has just as many playoff appearances and a much better record.

 

Comparing him to Hendry does nothing for me because I was shocked he held onto a job as long as he did, too.

 

 

These guys are widely regarded to be idiots but the people in charge are either oblivious to it or feel obligated to keep them around because of their "success."

[KingCubsFan]

I sometimes wonder if GM's of inferior intelligence (like Coletti) are intimidated by Theo and Hoyer. They have a knack for finding hidden gems (or at least somehow always getting the upper hand in trades). When they start asking for prospects, do the Coletti's of the world start to panic?

 

My guess is guys who are in the position of GM of other teams are confident enough in themselves to not get scared by Theo. Colletti probably thinks of himself as a good GM.

 

I think it's safe to say that Colletti is scared of Theo. Colletti also never wants to lose a trade to the Cubs, which makes him super-duper unlikely to make a big deal with us.

Not sure if Colletti is scared of Theo, but I do think he views the Cubs differently. Kind of like the Grizzlies owner and the Bulls.

[jersey cubs fan]

I can't believe how long Colletti has managed to hold onto a job now.

 

He came on 3 years after Hendry, has just as many playoff appearances and a much better record.

 

Comparing him to Hendry does nothing for me because I was shocked he held onto a job as long as he did, too.

 

 

These guys are widely regarded to be idiots but the people in charge are either oblivious to it or feel obligated to keep them around because of their "success."

 

Well, he's had relatively decent success, during a time when the ownership was in complete upheaval. I really don't think he's widely regarded as an idiot. It's a relatively small portion of the baseball following population that thinks he is.

[Theo]

Colletti, isn't a good GM in my view, and hands out bad contracts, but for the most part doesn't foolishly give away good prospects.

[sneakypower]

i don't think much of him, but Colletti was probably the biggest deadline winner; i hate that we couldn't top their lowball offer for Hanley

[Theo]

i don't think much of him, but Colletti was probably the biggest deadline winner; i hate that we couldn't top their lowball offer for Hanley

Agreed. Hanley would have been a great short term and long term piece.

[Backtobanks]

Theo is the smartest guy in the room. I'm really excited to start seeing the fruits of his labors.

 

I sometimes wonder if GM's of inferior intelligence (like Coletti) are intimidated by Theo and Hoyer. They have a knack for finding hidden gems (or at least somehow always getting the upper hand in trades). When they start asking for prospects, do the Coletti's of the world start to panic?

 

Theo might be a very smart guy, but it bothers me that posters refer to most other GMs as idiots and somehow any success that they have had has been luck. Most of these guys have been in and around baseball all of their lives. I'm sure most owners wouldn't leave an "idiot" in the GM post for many years. All of the sabermetric analysis that Beane and Theo initiated has been implemented by most teams.

[jersey cubs fan]

Theo is the smartest guy in the room. I'm really excited to start seeing the fruits of his labors.

 

I sometimes wonder if GM's of inferior intelligence (like Coletti) are intimidated by Theo and Hoyer. They have a knack for finding hidden gems (or at least somehow always getting the upper hand in trades). When they start asking for prospects, do the Coletti's of the world start to panic?

 

Theo might be a very smart guy, but it bothers me that posters refer to most other GMs as idiots and somehow any success that they have had has been luck. Most of these guys have been in and around baseball all of their lives. I'm sure most owners wouldn't leave an "idiot" in the GM post for many years. All of the sabermetric analysis that Beane and Theo initiated has been implemented by most teams.

 

Hendry ran the Cubs for a decade and he's a glorified gym teacher that doesn't understand a thing about numbers.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Being smart doesn't always help. Ed Lynch was supposedly a pretty smart guy outside of baseball, iirc.

[jersey cubs fan]

Ed Lynch epitomized the all prospects are suspects mindset of baseball past.

[Tryptamine]

The fact that Wil Myers is still in the minors while Francouer continues to occupy KC's roster is an example of the fact that not all GMs are baseball smart.

 

Wil Myers AA and AAA combined:

 

.310 AVG .389 OBP 1.031 OPS and 33HR.

[davell]

Ned is old school, but he's been handcuffed bigtime out there up until now. He's handed out some bad FA contracts obviously, but his trade track record probably doesn't look all that bad. The Blake for Santana deal is what everyone points to and it WAS bad. But my guess is if you judge him on his entire body of work, he shows up as utterly average, in the grand scheme of things.