Re: Games in which the Cubs are not playing

[El Duderino]

Do you let him go? Coming off major shoulder problems, obviously. Although, it's not like he's a huge part of the Mets future, and they've never had a no-hitter.

[mul21]

Do you let him go? Coming off major shoulder problems, obviously. Although, it's not like he's a huge part of the Mets future, and they've never had a no-hitter.

 

I don't think they will. They've got somebody up in the pen already.

[mul21]

Through 8 at 124 pitches I believe. Tough decision for the manager at this point. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.

 

Santana was struggling with his control a bit and looked like there was a lot more effort than earlier in the game that last inning.

[El Duderino]

Through 8 at 124 pitches I believe. Tough decision for the manager at this point. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.

 

Santana was struggling with his control a bit and looked like there was a lot more effort than earlier in the game that last inning.

 

It would be brutal if he came out and walked the first guy. If I was Collins I'd just want him to give up a hit.

[TruffleShuffle]

Through 8 at 124 pitches I believe. Tough decision for the manager at this point. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.

 

i can't think of a major league pitcher who got this late in a game with a no-hitter and was removed. i think you just have to let him go for it, and if he gives up a hit then take him out immediately. while santana isn't a big part of the mets' future, he is signed through next season and if he keeps pitching really well, he could fetch a really nice prospect package.

[mul21]

Through 8 at 124 pitches I believe. Tough decision for the manager at this point. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.

 

i can't think of a major league pitcher who got this late in a game with a no-hitter and was removed. i think you just have to let him go for it, and if he gives up a hit then take him out immediately. while santana isn't a big part of the mets' future, he is signed through next season and if he keeps pitching really well, he could fetch a really nice prospect package.

 

And that's the part that would make it tough for me. That's almost something where the GM just calls down to the dugout and says get him out before he gets hurt and destroys his trade value.

[davell]

Tough ass decision. I think I'd leave him in.

[mul21]

1st pitch out. That helps.

[El Duderino]

1st pitch out. That helps.

 

I knew Holliday was going to swing at a fastball close.

[mul21]

1st pitch out. That helps.

 

I knew Holliday was going to swing at a fastball close.

 

You see one from Santana close and you almost have to go after it. His velocity is down, but that change up is still nasty as ever.

[TruffleShuffle]

Through 8 at 124 pitches I believe. Tough decision for the manager at this point. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.

 

i can't think of a major league pitcher who got this late in a game with a no-hitter and was removed. i think you just have to let him go for it, and if he gives up a hit then take him out immediately. while santana isn't a big part of the mets' future, he is signed through next season and if he keeps pitching really well, he could fetch a really nice prospect package.

 

And that's the part that would make it tough for me. That's almost something where the GM just calls down to the dugout and says get him out before he gets hurt and destroys his trade value.

 

i'd just hope his arm doesn't fall off until after he's dealt. i see he has a full NTC, but presumably he'd waive it to pitch for a contender. the mets should really shop him around this year, since he's been mostly healthy and effective.

 

also, they can probably bump him back a day to rest after this.

[El Duderino]

Awesome.

[mul21]

And it's done! 1st ever no hitter for the Mets. Couldn't have happened to a better team!

[TruffleShuffle]

and just as importantly, cardinals lose!

[El Duderino]

You knew the Cardinals BABIP had to crash eventually (well, maybe).

[Rizzo Smash]

\:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/

[rawaction]

Santana had nothing in the last couple innings

[mul21]

Santana had nothing in the last couple innings

 

Yeah, that was really obvious. Probably the biggest reason I would have thought really hard about taking him out.

[TruffleShuffle]

also, watching the video highlights on mlb, and beltran hit a line drive down the 3b line that caught the foul line chalk and should've been called fair. it was a tough call for the ump, but sure looks like it caught the outside of the chalk.

[El Duderino]

Santana had nothing in the last couple innings

 

Yeah, that was really obvious. Probably the biggest reason I would have thought really hard about taking him out.

 

I don't know, that last changeup was pretty good.

[mul21]

also, watching the video highlights on mlb, and beltran hit a line drive down the 3b line that caught the foul line chalk and should've been called fair. it was a tough call for the ump, but sure looks like it caught the outside of the chalk.

 

It was definitely fair. You could see the mark the ball made in the chalk when they showed it later in the game. Yet another reason to add replay.

[rawaction]

Santana had nothing in the last couple innings

 

Yeah, that was really obvious. Probably the biggest reason I would have thought really hard about taking him out.

 

I don't know, that last changeup was pretty good.

Freese guessed fastball and swung befire the ball left santanas hand

[TruffleShuffle]

also, watching the video highlights on mlb, and beltran hit a line drive down the 3b line that caught the foul line chalk and should've been called fair. it was a tough call for the ump, but sure looks like it caught the outside of the chalk.

 

It was definitely fair. You could see the mark the ball made in the chalk when they showed it later in the game. Yet another reason to add replay.

 

i'm fine with bad calls that go against the cards. maybe add replay except when the cards get screwed. call it the don denkinger rule.

[erik316wttn]

Good for Johan.

 

Padres are now the only team without a no-hitter in their history, correct?

[CubmanPi]

also, watching the video highlights on mlb, and beltran hit a line drive down the 3b line that caught the foul line chalk and should've been called fair. it was a tough call for the ump, but sure looks like it caught the outside of the chalk.

 

It was definitely fair. You could see the mark the ball made in the chalk when they showed it later in the game. Yet another reason to add replay.

 

Thread derail: In that case, the ump called the ball foul, play dead. In perfect-world replay, would that be non-reviewable, or would they go back and if they see it's ruled fair, make a determination of what likely would have happened and award the batter (and any base runners) the bases they likely would have gotten?