Cubs sign Maholm - 1 yr/4.25 mil + club option

[jersey cubs fan]

Holy crap, weren't people thinking he'd get like 10m and 3 or 4 years?

 

$10m per year for 3 or 4 years? Really? People thought that? Or $10m spread over 3 or 4 years?

[Guest]

Holy crap, weren't people thinking he'd get like 10m and 3 or 4 years?

 

$10m per year for 3 or 4 years? Really? People thought that? Or $10m spread over 3 or 4 years?

 

I've seen it mentioned ($10M per), although I never really bought it.

[Guest]

Holy crap, weren't people thinking he'd get like 10m and 3 or 4 years?

 

$10m per year for 3 or 4 years? Really? People thought that? Or $10m spread over 3 or 4 years?

 

He's been worth 4/44 the last 4 years, and a couple people were caught off guard that the Pirates declined his 9 million option for 2012. Getting 3/30 or 4/40 in free agency was a bit of a stretch, but I think it's safe to say most people expected a good bit more than 1/4.75

[jersey cubs fan]

Holy crap, weren't people thinking he'd get like 10m and 3 or 4 years?

 

$10m per year for 3 or 4 years? Really? People thought that? Or $10m spread over 3 or 4 years?

 

I've seen it mentioned, although I never really bought it.

 

I mean, Pittsburgh turned down a $9.5m option this year and there were some people who suggested maybe he'd have been worth $9.5m for this one year, but it would have been idiotic to give him 4/40 or anything close.

[BleacherBadger]

Cubs paid Grabow $4.8 last year (backloaded contract, of course) to sit in the left field stands

[Guest]

This makes him pretty tradeable at the deadline if he's doing well, no?

[jersey cubs fan]

Holy crap, weren't people thinking he'd get like 10m and 3 or 4 years?

 

$10m per year for 3 or 4 years? Really? People thought that? Or $10m spread over 3 or 4 years?

 

He's been worth 4/44 the last 4 years, and a couple people were caught off guard that the Pirates declined his 9 million option for 2012. Getting 3/30 or 4/40 in free agency was a bit of a stretch, but I think it's safe to say most people expected a good bit more than 1/4.75

 

That's weird because I thought people had settled into the 1/4-6m range with this guy.

[Guest]

Cubs paid Grabow $4.8 last year (backloaded contract, of course) to sit in the left field stands

 

I hate Hendry too and everything, but I really wish people would stop saying "backloaded contract lol" like it's a bad thing.

 

It's a good and smart thing.

[jersey cubs fan]

Cubs paid Grabow $4.8 last year (backloaded contract, of course) to sit in the left field stands

 

I hate Hendry too and everything, but I really wish people would stop saying "backloaded contract lol" like it's a bad thing.

 

It's a good and smart thing.

 

When given to good players.

[BleacherBadger]

Cubs paid Grabow $4.8 last year (backloaded contract, of course) to sit in the left field stands

 

I hate Hendry too and everything, but I really wish people would stop saying "backloaded contract lol" like it's a bad thing.

 

It's a good and smart thing.

 

When given to good players.

 

And when done for strategic purposes. Backloading a 2/$7.5M contract for a $130M payroll makes no sense.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

 

And when done for strategic purposes. Backloading a 2/$7.5M contract for a $130M payroll makes no sense.

 

 

It *always* makes sense. Giving someone $4 million this year and $3 million next year is paying them more value than reversing the two years.

[ScrubMD]

Holy crap, weren't people thinking he'd get like 10m and 3 or 4 years?

 

$10m per year for 3 or 4 years? Really? People thought that? Or $10m spread over 3 or 4 years?

 

I didn't think he was anywhere close to being worth that, but I figured he'd get like 3 years in the 7-9m range. I wouldn't have wanted the Cubs to give him that contract, but that's where I figured he'd be.

[17 Seconds]

when did jake become a troll?

[SouthSideRyan]

Wow, this is really cheap. Well done.

[ScrubMD]

 

And when done for strategic purposes. Backloading a 2/$7.5M contract for a $130M payroll makes no sense.

 

 

It *always* makes sense. Giving someone $4 million this year and $3 million next year is paying them more value than reversing the two years.

 

It doesn't make sense in the sense that a backloaded deal necessarily means Grabow got a multi-year deal.

[Elrhino]

This makes him pretty tradeable at the deadline if he's doing well, no?

 

Let's grow the Wrigley infield grass 2 feet high and boost that trade value.

[BleacherBadger]

 

And when done for strategic purposes. Backloading a 2/$7.5M contract for a $130M payroll makes no sense.

 

 

It *always* makes sense. Giving someone $4 million this year and $3 million next year is paying them more value than reversing the two years.

 

If you're saying TVM for the player side, that's an entirely different discussion and not related to a team's annual payroll.

[SouthSideRyan]

 

And when done for strategic purposes. Backloading a 2/$7.5M contract for a $130M payroll makes no sense.

 

 

It *always* makes sense. Giving someone $4 million this year and $3 million next year is paying them more value than reversing the two years.

 

If you're saying TVM for the player side, that's an entirely different discussion and not related to a team's annual payroll.

 

Why would TVM only matter from the player side?

[davell]

Honestly, his late season shoulder injury HAD to have something to do with this, right?

[BleacherBadger]

 

And when done for strategic purposes. Backloading a 2/$7.5M contract for a $130M payroll makes no sense.

 

 

It *always* makes sense. Giving someone $4 million this year and $3 million next year is paying them more value than reversing the two years.

 

If you're saying TVM for the player side, that's an entirely different discussion and not related to a team's annual payroll.

 

Why would TVM only matter from the player side?

 

I guess I've just never heard interest rates and float as a reason for fluctuating payroll.

[jersey cubs fan]

 

And when done for strategic purposes. Backloading a 2/$7.5M contract for a $130M payroll makes no sense.

 

 

It *always* makes sense. Giving someone $4 million this year and $3 million next year is paying them more value than reversing the two years.

 

Financially it can make sense, but budgetarily, not necessarily. Backloading can cause an undisciplined manager to force ill-fitting pieces into his budget by convincing himself the guy is more affordable than he really is. In a low interest rate environment there is even less value to the club financially in backloading the contracts.

[Jake]

Holy crap, weren't people thinking he'd get like 10m and 3 or 4 years?

 

$10m per year for 3 or 4 years? Really? People thought that? Or $10m spread over 3 or 4 years?

 

I've seen it mentioned, although I never really bought it.

 

I mean, Pittsburgh turned down a $9.5m option this year and there were some people who suggested maybe he'd have been worth $9.5m for this one year, but it would have been idiotic to give him 4/40 or anything close.

Not only did we turn that down, but we tried to trade him, and there were no takers.

 

10/year is just not something rooted in reality. If he were worth 10/year either we'd have kept him or someone would have traded for him. Note: We don't get a draft pick for him because he wasn't ranked.

[BleacherBadger]

What Jersey said

 

also

 

Backloading creates a greater risk of a player underperforming his contract and making it more untradeable.

[Little Slide Rooter]

I like it. I just wish that it was a vesting option and that there were 2 of them just so that if he were to end up a solid mid rotation pitcher or better we keep under control when we're more likely to contend.

 

Why would a vesting option be better than a club option?

 

For some reason I saw club option and thought mutual option, just a brain fart. My main point is that Maholm has potential to be a quality 3 starter, and if he can be that, I'd prefer that we have him under control by the time we're contending, which realistically, I think will be 2014 although 2013 will be fun to watch due to the young players coming up.

[Guest]

What Jersey said

 

also

 

Backloading creates a greater risk of a player underperforming his contract and making it more untradeable.

 

How? Whether the team that signed him to that deal paid that money sooner or later, they were going to pay it anyway.

 

Toss the money in with the deal if that's what's keeping the deal from happening.