Chicago Bears Offseason 2012

[XZero771679666304]

The problem is that Mckelleleleins numbers were average in a piss poor conference. I think he was more of a early second round pick.

 

You're perhaps the most negative poster on this board.

 

I'd venture to say that 95% of Bears fans are up in arms over this draft pick for various reasons. I'm an easily disturbed, jaded Chicago sports fan, big deal.

 

95%? It seems pretty mixed around here. I'm not ecstatic, but it's the first pick by our new GM. He's already acquired Marshall who we've wanted for years and has 6 more picks to make.

 

It wasn't a thrilling pick by any stretch, but it's hardly a head-scratching, WTF-level reach of a pick (a la Hayden Simpson).

[cubbyvirus00]

The problem is that Mckelleleleins numbers were average in a piss poor conference. I think he was more of a early second round pick.

 

You're perhaps the most negative poster on this board.

 

I'd venture to say that 95% of Bears fans are up in arms over this draft pick for various reasons. I'm an easily disturbed, jaded Chicago sports fan, big deal.

 

95%? It seems pretty mixed around here. I'm not ecstatic, but it's the first pick by our new GM. He's already acquired Marshall who we've wanted for years and has 6 more picks to make.

 

I'm not arguing what you're saying. I'm stating the facts of the situation that it was a bit of a reach on a 3-4 defensive player. Hearing Emery say that he had a "blue grade" as far as Special Teams go was quite frustrating. We don't need a quasi LB/Special Teams guy in the first round. We need pure pass rush.

Edited April 27, 2012 by cubbyvirus00

[davell]

Plenty of O Line options at 50 too. Martin, Adams, and Massie all worth it. At guard, Cordy Glenn is obvious, Silatolu and Osemele are decent value as well. Konz. Is damn good, I just don't want to take a C that high, although he could play OG too.

[ctcf]

The problem is that Mckelleleleins numbers were average in a piss poor conference. I think he was more of a early second round pick.

 

You're perhaps the most negative poster on this board.

 

I'd venture to say that 95% of Bears fans are up in arms over this draft pick for various reasons. I'm an easily disturbed, jaded Chicago sports fan, big deal.

 

95%? It seems pretty mixed around here. I'm not ecstatic, but it's the first pick by our new GM. He's already acquired Marshall who we've wanted for years and has 6 more picks to make.

 

I'm not arguing what you're saying. I'm stating the facts of the situation that it was a bit of a reach on a 3-4 defensive player. Hearing Emery say that he had a "blue grade" as far as Special Teams go was quite frustrating. We don't need a quasi LB/Special Teams guy. We need pure pass rush.

 

Yes, clearly he is a quasi LB/Special Teams guy and not a pass rusher.

[davell]

At DT, you've got Still, Worthy, Reyes, and Thompson. If we go CB, you've got Robinson, Jenkins, Boykin, and Trumaine Johnson. If we take something other than DT, CB, O Line, or a receiver in the 2nd, I'll be pissed.

[ctcf]

At DT, you've got Still, Worthy, Reyes, and Thompson. If we go CB, you've got Robinson, Jenkins, Boykin, and Trumaine Johnson. If we take something other than DT, CB, O Line, or a receiver in the 2nd, I'll be pissed.

 

I'm thinking 4th string QB

[cubbyvirus00]

At DT, you've got Still, Worthy, Reyes, and Thompson. If we go CB, you've got Robinson, Jenkins, Boykin, and Trumaine Johnson. If we take something other than DT, CB, O Line, or a receiver in the 2nd, I'll be pissed.

 

 

I'd like to see a trade up for a WR or DT.

[sneakypower]

i've got to say, i was pretty psyched about this pick.

[cubbyvirus00]

For anyone that cares, Hub Arkush just came on the Score. Really disappointed with the pick. Saying he lacks the strength to be a full time end in the 4-3 and that teams will be running the ball right at him since he lacks the strength and gets overpowered very easily etc. Thinks we should have taken Reiff who he thinks is a long term future LT (i disagree) or taken DeCastro.

[Brian]

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While we are making ridiculous comparisons to Cubs draft picks... Doesn't he look like Vitters

Edited April 27, 2012 by Brian

[Guest]

At DT, you've got Still, Worthy, Reyes, and Thompson. If we go CB, you've got Robinson, Jenkins, Boykin, and Trumaine Johnson. If we take something other than DT, CB, O Line, or a receiver in the 2nd, I'll be pissed.

 

 

I'd like to see a trade up for a WR or DT.

 

They might not even need to trade up.

[davell]

I definitely would have taken DeCastro over anyone on the board. I would have been pleased with Wright. I've never been sold on Reiff as a LT personally, but I do think Carimi could play there, so adding a RT would have been good. I guess we'll just have to see on McClellin, but as far as impact goes, I just don't see him making as big of one as the guys I just mentioned.

[Guest]

For anyone that cares, Hub Arkush just came on the Score. Really disappointed with the pick. Saying he lacks the strength to be a full time end in the 4-3 and that teams will be running the ball right at him since he lacks the strength and gets overpowered very easily etc. Thinks we should have taken Reiff who he thinks is a long term future LT (i disagree) or taken DeCastro.

 

That's my problem with this pick - I much prefer both the OL far more to any of the DEs available at 19.

[cubbyvirus00]

For anyone that cares, Hub Arkush just came on the Score. Really disappointed with the pick. Saying he lacks the strength to be a full time end in the 4-3 and that teams will be running the ball right at him since he lacks the strength and gets overpowered very easily etc. Thinks we should have taken Reiff who he thinks is a long term future LT (i disagree) or taken DeCastro.

 

That's my problem with this pick - I much prefer both the OL far more to any of the DEs available at 19.

 

 

That's exactly how I feel. I wasn't wanting an O-line pick, but I completely expected them to go that route since that is how the chips fell. DeCastro is a sure impact upgrade on a need of ours, yet the Bears go for a potential question mark player who hasn't played in the 4-3. To compound it hearing Emery talk about versatility and special teams was [expletive]. The Bears don't run a versatile defense. Its the most plain vanilla 4-3 scheme in the league. Fans don't want to hear about special teams with a first round pick.

[Soul]

My first reaction: bad pick.

 

He doesn't seem strong enough to anchor the DE full time. He'll have to come in on passing downs. So he's a pass rush specialist at best. That doesn't smell like first round to me. More like 3rd.

 

So maybe he has great athletic talent. Cool. So do a lot of other guys.

 

I hope he works out as a player for us. Even if he does, he still shouldn't have been taken this high.

[Banedon]

If Hub hates the pick, I feel much, much better about it. Though I agree that I'd have rather gone OL with the choices available.

 

 

Also, the Tribune poll is rather funny. 50/50 split, almost exactly...I know, not exactly scientific....

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/poll/chi-120426-bears-poll,0,2627414,post.poll

 

 

I think the immediate overreaction from people is over the top. There were other guys I'd have gone after first, but I don't think it was a bad pick. Just not the one I'd have made.

[RynoRules]

Emery's analysis of Shea is interesting. Talks about his natural ability to hit gaps and not get stuck on blocks. He sounds much more like a scout than Angelo did.

 

On the down side, he mentions that McClellin was the highest rated special team player on the board. Not exactly an inspiring statement in explaining he rational for making him the first pick.

[Banedon]

Emery's analysis of Shea is interesting. Talks about his natural ability to hit gaps and not get stuck on blocks. He sounds much more like a scout than Angelo did.

 

On the down side, he mentions that McClellin was the highest rated special team player on the board. Not exactly an inspiring statement in explaining he rational for making him the first pick.

 

The Bears will use some starters on special teams though. I don't really think we need to read too much into that statement.

[UK1679666180]

My simulated draft so far:

1) Riley Reiff - Iowa

 

I'm disappointed with the pick, it is equally a great need (I'm not a fan of J. Webb, unlike Tice) as OT but I would've preferred Mercilus, Jones, and definitely Perry over him as far as pass rushers.

[jersey cubs fan]

 

I think the immediate overreaction from people is over the top. There were other guys I'd have gone after first, but I don't think it was a bad pick. Just not the one I'd have made.

No it was bad. The scout master got his boy scout, not an impact football player.

[WrigleyField 22]

Get your round 2&3 predictions out:

 

Brandon Thompson, DT, Clemson. He'll man the nose tackle with Toenia, allowing Paea to focus on 3 tech. A nice replacement to Adams and rounds out a D-Line unit that rotates frequently and needs fresh bodies.

 

Ryan Broyles, WR, Oklahoma. Some injury concern, but good speed (though not a burner, knows how to get open) and good production. He can push Hester and Weems immediately in the slot and perhaps develop into the guy across from Marshall long term. Finding a starter at WR is typically hit or miss so people should prepare for Bennett to line up across Marshall.

 

 

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[jersey cubs fan]

The sad thing is this guy will struggle to get playing time over idonije.

[Theo]

 

I think the immediate overreaction from people is over the top. There were other guys I'd have gone after first, but I don't think it was a bad pick. Just not the one I'd have made.

No it was bad. The scout master got his boy scout, not an impact football player.

How can you possibly know this, without him playing a down in the NFL.

[jersey cubs fan]

 

I think the immediate overreaction from people is over the top. There were other guys I'd have gone after first, but I don't think it was a bad pick. Just not the one I'd have made.

No it was bad. The scout master got his boy scout, not an impact football player.

How can you possibly know this, without him playing a down in the NFL.

You don't need to see a guy play in nfl.

 

He hardly impressed against that Boise schedule. Wait until the tweener sees nfl linemen.

[Theo]

I'm just amazed your not working in an nfl front office with all the vast insight you have