Non-Tender Day

[Rob]

According to MLBTR, Barton has been non tendered. If Fielder doesn't happen I'd be willing to revisit to possibility through trade.

 

For clarification, Barton has been tendered a contract. He is not a FA.

 

Yes, I know. I mistakenly wrote non tendered instead of tendered. Otherwise I wouldn't have suggested the possibility of trading for him. The shame I feel is far greater than anything you can say or do.

 

And when I read it I assumed you had a brain fart and thought non-tendering was the same thing as DFA. If you don't want people to clarify your mistakes, edit them yourself.

[Little Slide Rooter]

According to MLBTR, Barton has been non tendered. If Fielder doesn't happen I'd be willing to revisit to possibility through trade.

 

For clarification, Barton has been tendered a contract. He is not a FA.

 

Yes, I know. I mistakenly wrote non tendered instead of tendered. Otherwise I wouldn't have suggested the possibility of trading for him. The shame I feel is far greater than anything you can say or do.

 

And when I read it I assumed you had a brain fart and thought non-tendering was the same thing as DFA. If you don't want people to clarify your mistakes, edit them yourself.

 

If I catch them, I edit them. If someone beats me to it, that's OK too.

[davearm2]

Thed Epsoyer

Just stop

[Ballgame64]

Joe Saunders was Non-tendered by the Diamondbacks. I can't say that I know much about him. Is he the type of pitcher the Cubs would be looking to sign?

[Exile on Waveland]

Non of these arguements give any reason not to try to buy low on Loney if Fielder isn't an option.

 

You're right. If Fielder signs elsewhere, Loney wouldn't be terrible compared to some of the other options. Which you should read as: signing Fielder is pretty damn imperative.

[BCVM22]

Luke Scott officially non-tendered. As is Ryan Theriot.

[JimSorgi]

Joe Saunders was Non-tendered by the Diamondbacks. I can't say that I know much about him. Is he the type of pitcher the Cubs would be looking to sign?

Not likely. He pretty much sucks.

[Rob]

My excitement to see Ryan Theriot taken down a peg is somewhat offset by the fact the Cardinals can now spend that elsewhere.

 

Oh, what's that you say? They gave Skip Schumaker 2 years? Huzzah!

[CubsWin]

If Andrew Miller gets non-tendered, he fits the Epstein profile.

 

He re-upped for 1 year with Boston last week.

Strange. It was in an article on the front page of mlb.com yesterday. Must've been an older article, I guess. Thanks.

[Little Slide Rooter]

So in the end, it looks like the only interesting non tenders are Pete Moyland(I've always had an odd obsession with side armers), Micah Owings, who'd be a better 6th starter/swingman than Casey Coleman or Rodrigo Lopez, Joe Sanders if we needed another 5th starter option, and Ryan Spillborghs who'd be a better 4th outfielder than Montanez. Nothing I'd go out of my way to jump on but at the right price, why not.

[dew1679666265]

What's the interest in Joe Saunders about? I've seen his name pop up on multiple occasions and never understood why anybody would be interested in him.

 

He'll be 31 next year, has had two seasons with an ERA under 4.00, and never had an xFIP under 4.38 in a full season. He doesn't walk a lot of batters (2.87 BB/9), but he also doesn't strike anybody out (5.02 K/9). He is a lefty though, so I guess there's that.

 

Can't say I have any interest in him or Owings.

[SouthSideRyan]

Saunders is fine if he was appropriately valued, but he made 5.5M last year, and after a sub-4 ERA last year, I don't expect his salary to drop much in free agency.

[jersey cubs fan]

What's the interest in Joe Saunders about? I've seen his name pop up on multiple occasions and never understood why anybody would be interested in him.

 

He'll be 31 next year, has had two seasons with an ERA under 4.00, and never had an xFIP under 4.38 in a full season. He doesn't walk a lot of batters (2.87 BB/9), but he also doesn't strike anybody out (5.02 K/9). He is a lefty though, so I guess there's that.

 

Can't say I have any interest in him or Owings.

 

I'd guess the interest is based on being able to throw lots of non-horrible innings. He's been about a 1.2 - 1.5 WAR pitcher for several years, with 190 - 210 IP. Basically a little better than Jason Marquis was when they signed him.

[dew1679666265]

Saunders is fine if he was appropriately valued, but he made 5.5M last year, and after a sub-4 ERA last year, I don't expect his salary to drop much in free agency.

 

I guess even if Saunders came cheap I see a lot of better options out there who can be had cheaply and are young enough to potentially get better. I see Saunders' name pop up on here often enough that I keep thinking I'm missing something, though. But I just keep seeing an old pitcher who doesn't walk guys or strike anybody out and has been pretty unproductive.

[dew1679666265]

I'd guess the interest is based on being able to throw lots of non-horrible innings. He's been about a 1.2 - 1.5 WAR pitcher for several years, with 190 - 210 IP. Basically a little better than Jason Marquis was when they signed him.

 

Hadn't considered the Marquis comparison - it's a pretty good comp. I wouldn't be angry if the Cubs signed him or anything (unless he cost us actual money), but it seems like I've seen him mentioned more often than a mediocre innings-eater should be. Maybe I'm overblowing it, though.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'd guess the interest is based on being able to throw lots of non-horrible innings. He's been about a 1.2 - 1.5 WAR pitcher for several years, with 190 - 210 IP. Basically a little better than Jason Marquis was when they signed him.

 

Hadn't considered the Marquis comparison - it's a pretty good comp. I wouldn't be angry if the Cubs signed him or anything (unless he cost us actual money), but it seems like I've seen him mentioned more often than a mediocre innings-eater should be. Maybe I'm overblowing it, though.

 

Seems like a guy who is worth $4-5m, especially for a decent offensive team. But if you are running out there with the pathetic group the Cubs currently have, there's not much point in paying for mediocre pitching.

[weis21]

Bleacher Nation says the Cubs are interested in both Scott and Saunders. Scott would be interesting. Not as big on Saunders.

[apete6]

I'm all about Owings for cheap. He would be a great swing man and could also function as a decent PH option in the early innings when a starter is getting rocked or in extra innings as your long guy who you don't have to pinch hit for. He's a decent pitcher, but his offensive value could be very key. Of course, things like that matter more on a certain contender, but if we are in a division race, a guy like that is important.

[dew1679666265]

Seems like a guy who is worth $4-5m, especially for a decent offensive team. But if you are running out there with the pathetic group the Cubs currently have, there's not much point in paying for mediocre pitching.

 

I can see that.

[Gilby]

Bleacher Nation says the Cubs are interested in both Scott and Saunders. Scott would be interesting. Not as big on Saunders.

 

As far as Luke Scott goes, I'd much rather not have a crazy gun-wielding racist birther on the Cubs.

[NonProfitCow]

Bleacher Nation says the Cubs are interested in both Scott and Saunders. Scott would be interesting. Not as big on Saunders.

 

As far as Luke Scott goes, I'd much rather not have a crazy gun-wielding racist birther on the Cubs.

I'm sure Castro likes plantains.

[Banedon]

Yeah, count me against signing players I would enjoy punching in the face repeatedly.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Racist or not, Scott hits lefties to the tune of .268/.357/.501/.858 and Soriano righties at .286/.349/.533/.883 and so between them both, you see they licked the platter clean.

[SouthSideRyan]

We have so much time, and so little to do.

[Gilby]

Racist or not, Scott hits lefties to the tune of .268/.357/.501/.858 and Soriano righties at .286/.349/.533/.883 and so between them both, you see they licked the platter clean.

 

That's fair and Scott does make some sense for us to sign. But this is one of the few times that I'm going to look at someone's personality instead of their stats. As Banedon said, I just really want to punch him in the face and would not enjoy watching him have success.